ForeverB wrote:Do you think the shot clock stops as soon as a coach calls a timeout or does a second or two run off before a ref calls it. Also in region tourney they get that call every time
ForeverB wrote:Do you think the shot clock stops as soon as a coach calls a timeout or does a second or two run off before a ref calls it. Also in region tourney they get that call every time
heimer wrote:Well, seeing as I worked in Bismarck for a year, there's that.
Nice girl, a bit of a weird date. Lots of distance. Probably wasn't going to work. But she was a great girl.
I also broadcast three East-West wrestling tournaments in New Salem, two basketball tournaments in Beulah, and even lived in Stanton for a week.
So, as long as we're blowing up theories.
ForeverB wrote:Do you think the shot clock stops as soon as a coach calls a timeout or does a second or two run off before a ref calls it. Also in region tourney they get that call every time
vikingman wrote:It's a shame that one of these 2 teams is going to be going home a winner.
justplayalready wrote:At what point do we reach Anybody but Kindred?
heimer wrote:justplayalready wrote:At what point do we reach Anybody but Kindred?
When you seed the tournament correctly.
imjustafan wrote:ForeverB wrote:Do you think the shot clock stops as soon as a coach calls a timeout or does a second or two run off before a ref calls it. Also in region tourney they get that call every time
The shot clock 'should' be synced to the game clock, meaning that the when the game clock operator starts and stops, the shot clock also starts and stops. I have seen some places that aren't synced and one or the other can tick off a second or two more.
I kill the clock when the ref calls it (I have the shot clock synced). There are too many times when a coach calls for a TO and before the ref can call it, something happens and now the coach does not want/need the TO. By waiting for the ref to call the TO you get the reaction time of the ref hearing the TO call and whistling it and the reaction time of the clock operator stopping the clock. Sometimes a couple seconds are lost here. If the ref that was timing the 10 also whistled the TO, he could have heard the TO call before he got to 10 and by the time everyone reacted, the shot clock showed 23. I'd have to look back to see if the ref timing the 10 was the one making the TO call.
justplayalready wrote:
So we don't put the correct teams #1 and #2 because it would lead to a 3 class system??? or an honest discussion about one?? or some other narrative???
heimer wrote:justplayalready wrote:
So we don't put the correct teams #1 and #2 because it would lead to a 3 class system??? or an honest discussion about one?? or some other narrative???
We intentionally seeded two west teams 4 and 5 to make sure the west had a team in the semis after a disastrous showing at the state volleyball tournament.
The rest is conjecture, but good conjecture.
heimer wrote:justplayalready wrote:
So we don't put the correct teams #1 and #2 because it would lead to a 3 class system??? or an honest discussion about one?? or some other narrative???
We intentionally seeded two west teams 4 and 5 to make sure the west had a team in the semis after a disastrous showing at the state volleyball tournament.
The rest is conjecture, but good conjecture.
heimer wrote:Alright, my turn.
1) quit yer bitc#!ng about driving to Grand Forks. We have a big state. Get used to it. Not every part of our state is pasture land and pheasant hunting. I respect those things, but the state is the state.
The tournaments are spread because there are some communities that take on revenue-losing tournaments/meets, so they are guaranteed something that generates revenue. Having the girls tournament in Grand forks is a good way to get them back for hosting golf, or fine arts, or soccer, things that do not generate revenue. .
The Schwab wrote:heimer wrote:Alright, my turn.
1) quit yer bitc#!ng about driving to Grand Forks. We have a big state. Get used to it. Not every part of our state is pasture land and pheasant hunting. I respect those things, but the state is the state.
The tournaments are spread because there are some communities that take on revenue-losing tournaments/meets, so they are guaranteed something that generates revenue. Having the girls tournament in Grand forks is a good way to get them back for hosting golf, or fine arts, or soccer, things that do not generate revenue.
I drove to Hettinger in 1997 for a blind date in a Chevy Celebrity. True story. Not a big deal. Enjoy Grand Forks.
2) it's pretty clear to me we just couldn't have a repeat of state volleyball, with an all-east semifinal. So, we found a couple of schools with big records to seed, and forced Kindred, Langdon, and Thompson into the same bracket, probably to negate that whole "wah wah wah Thompson just played in that arena no fair no fair no fair wah wah wah" crap that was going on from the moment the tournament change was announced. The best five teams in the tournament are (in no order) Kindred, Langdon, Thompson, Kidder County, and then pick em. Record is not enough to use for seeding purposes if teams play much tougher schedules than their colleagues.
There was a team at state volleyball that absolutely didn't belong there, and there is at least one team at state basketball that doesn't belong there. What this tournament has done is tell schools to stop playing meaningful games in the regular season, run your record up, and get what you can. That's a setback for the game.
3) The Betty was awesome yesterday, far more entertaining than the same crowd at the Dome or the Alerus. I'm looking forward to tonight.
In response to number 2, man it’s such a shame that they had to rig the seedings to have 2 of the best from the west regions play in the first round. We couldn’t have an all-west final like we had last year!!
heimer wrote:Also, no one bitc#es and complains about an all-west semifinal, because, in the east, we realize we will have to drive to get to actual games. But imagine the pain and heartbreak of the convoy that came up from Region 7 to see all of their west comrades in the sunshine half.
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