BelfieldBantams wrote:Absolute garbage that at least two region 1 teams are going to be bigger than a handful of teams in class a but instead will be playing teams less than a third their size.
BelfieldBantams wrote:Absolute garbage that at least two region 1 teams are going to be bigger than a handful of teams in class a but instead will be playing teams less than a third their size.
defensewinsgames wrote:There seems to be a tremendous amount of dissatisfaction with the current plan. What are the chances that there isn't significant changes made and we actually have this plan again next year? From everything I have heard I would be kind of surprised if there wasn't changes made.
Flying Wallenda wrote:defensewinsgames wrote:There seems to be a tremendous amount of dissatisfaction with the current plan. What are the chances that there isn't significant changes made and we actually have this plan again next year? From everything I have heard I would be kind of surprised if there wasn't changes made.
What is wrong with this plan?
WalkingStick wrote:Flying Wallenda wrote:defensewinsgames wrote:There seems to be a tremendous amount of dissatisfaction with the current plan. What are the chances that there isn't significant changes made and we actually have this plan again next year? From everything I have heard I would be kind of surprised if there wasn't changes made.
What is wrong with this plan?
People don't like North, South and the GF Schools cause they are in 11A and not 11AA and they want HCV, Kindred & CC among others in that 11A
Many have no issues but some do so changes are being 'demanded'
WalkingStick wrote:Flying Wallenda wrote:defensewinsgames wrote:There seems to be a tremendous amount of dissatisfaction with the current plan. What are the chances that there isn't significant changes made and we actually have this plan again next year? From everything I have heard I would be kind of surprised if there wasn't changes made.
What is wrong with this plan?
People don't like North, South and the GF Schools cause they are in 11A and not 11AA and they want HCV, Kindred & CC among others in that 11A
Many have no issues but some do so changes are being 'demanded'
defensewinsgames wrote:WalkingStick wrote:Flying Wallenda wrote:defensewinsgames wrote:There seems to be a tremendous amount of dissatisfaction with the current plan. What are the chances that there isn't significant changes made and we actually have this plan again next year? From everything I have heard I would be kind of surprised if there wasn't changes made.
What is wrong with this plan?
People don't like North, South and the GF Schools cause they are in 11A and not 11AA and they want HCV, Kindred & CC among others in that 11A
Many have no issues but some do so changes are being 'demanded'
I don't think this is an accurate statement. I'm going to try and give tangible evidence so my point is made effectively and not based on personal opinion/feeling. So I won't even address the class b big school problem because that never seems to go anywhere. So I will try it like this, I listen to the Izzo show just about every day. He has on 2 or 3 high school coaches a week. From the 9 man coaches (Beach, Cavalier), to the little 11 man schools to the biggest 11 man schools (Bismarck, Davies); not one coach has gone on that show and said they like this plan (and Izzo asks everyone of them). I name these schools because I specifically heard their coaches speak out against it. The large schools dislike the playoff issues (Davies being left out last year) and number of teams that are in their division as well as their being no-penalty for playing teams below you in a division (I play a triple a team and lose and go down but you play a bad double a team and win and go up in playoff seedings). The small schools have complained about everything from being forced up based on success (even if your numbers clearly dictate it you should be down - AKA Lamoure and Cavalier) to it being hard to schedule non-region games because of format and scheduling (Cavalier played a 11 man team and AA JV this year and look at region 2 single a - Harvey and Langdon are only playing 8 games because buy weeks are different for every single team in the region so you only have one team you can schedule from the region next to yours and it might be the last week of the season). The only ones I have heard in favor of the play live in Grand Forks and half of Fargo. You can disagree with these people and their complaints but when dozens of coaches say this plan is problematic you can't say that "many have no issues but some do."
maddog1971 wrote:No good answers any place. Let the the class B teams run their cycle. In a couple years it will be some team that is having a good run that we will want to kick them up to the next level. Schwabs plan is just as good as any. It would be Jamestown in the state championship game every year with them being upset once until they change the plan and move Jamestown up or St. Mary's and Shanley start getting beat and then move them down so they can win state titles again. Then you have kids traveling 10 hours on a bus to play a Friday night game. Stinks but what do you do to make it equal.
MPCG is being dominate at the 9 man level... what do they do... now you are 11 man. Makes MPCG mad but makes everyone MPCG is killing happy.
defensewinsgames wrote:maddog1971 wrote:No good answers any place. Let the the class B teams run their cycle. In a couple years it will be some team that is having a good run that we will want to kick them up to the next level. Schwabs plan is just as good as any. It would be Jamestown in the state championship game every year with them being upset once until they change the plan and move Jamestown up or St. Mary's and Shanley start getting beat and then move them down so they can win state titles again. Then you have kids traveling 10 hours on a bus to play a Friday night game. Stinks but what do you do to make it equal.
MPCG is being dominate at the 9 man level... what do they do... now you are 11 man. Makes MPCG mad but makes everyone MPCG is killing happy.
I have not heard one comment made about some teams that have had great success recently: MayPort, Cavalier, Kidder County, LaMoure, EEK (a while ago), Wyndmere (a while ago), Richland (a while ago), North Star (a while ago); even Langdon...No one was saying Enderlin should move up in basketball either. No one complains when small schools are in the middle of a great run or calls for them to move up - that just isn't happening. The cyclical nature will never go away and most people are happy for those small schools getting a couple year run. Saying that is a copout and very weak and veiled biased defense of those large schools.
What big class b school supporters never acknowledge is the difference in resources along with the number of kids. Go walk into Central Cass's new athletic complex and turf fields and tell me that EEK and Sargent County (in football) or FCT, Maple River, and Wyndmere (in basketball) can offer 1/3rd of those resources (weight room, fields, gyms, equipment, training facilities, locker rooms, money for upgrades/equipment/technology/etc.). That isn't a non-factor that should be forgotten and go unacknowledged. Central Cass has nicer facilities than 2/3rds of the colleges in ND. Yes kids have to utilize those facilities appropriately to get the most out of them but holy cow are those small school kids starting 5 steps behind because of an extremely large gap in resources.
maddog1971 wrote:Rich and poor football... I am all for that because small towns are not as good because they don't have any money. I would love to hear someone suggest that in downtown Linton on a Friday night. You will not be leaving with your teeth. And yes Central Cass is unreal but guess what most of that is done through fund raising and it is not being paid for fully by the schools.
maddog1971 wrote:I grew up in small towns. My class had 18 total kids. So I get it and I grew up with a chip on my shoulder for big schools. BUT I will say I have no idea how to come up with a plan to make people happy.
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 15 guests