winner-within wrote:Very few Programs are still all alone in ND Boys Class B, Cavalier (2 starters born in the Cavalier Hospital in 01', right before they quit having babies there for good) is one of them...I personally believe Cavalier and North Border should have co-op'ed in all sports (right now is a select few) 2 years ago....
It would have been no different then when Walhalla and North Border co-oped in 2000, many players had to take the bench or not go out but thats how you compete with the HCV'S and Thompson's and all the huge programs throughout....instead? they remain by themselves and keep striving, they have one gym, even the new school proposal (voted down twice lately, 3 times if you go back a few years) has no new gym involved in it...Why? because its a Football town? with all that said the Town is still looked upon as BIG PROGRAM...well I have news...it isn't, had they joined with NB in GB, BB, GV, FB, it would have been dominance at its finest credit to great athletes, just like the other Region 2 dominant programs in the past few years
Now, I grew up in Cavalier County and there were 12 schools back then and now there is essentially one LAEM, should they be dominant in every sport? they'd better be! they have a girl who quit the team (because she didn't see the floor) that would Start on every class B program in the State and some Class A's....if you have that scenario going on in your Class B Program, you are an unusual force, but not so unusual as some of the others that rank in the top 6 or 7 or 10 also have that luxury.....so leading into "these teams should be in a middle division if there were 3 classes"? thats fine....it would actually be more fun on here and everybody wouldn't be sucking on the Bigs of B like they do now....and thats fine too IMO, because there are so many who can't wait for their summer ball etc etc, just to get a chance at actually winning a few games or maybe a lot of games, instead of not winning one all season..........Class B isn't gone, its just changed so much that even the Media only covers the Suburbs and bedroom communities if you will...what is gone, is true rural and true one school programs...but Class B and the hype would be over for good,
The Schwab wrote:winner-within wrote:Very few Programs are still all alone in ND Boys Class B, Cavalier (2 starters born in the Cavalier Hospital in 01', right before they quit having babies there for good) is one of them...I personally believe Cavalier and North Border should have co-op'ed in all sports (right now is a select few) 2 years ago....
It would have been no different then when Walhalla and North Border co-oped in 2000, many players had to take the bench or not go out but thats how you compete with the HCV'S and Thompson's and all the huge programs throughout....instead? they remain by themselves and keep striving, they have one gym, even the new school proposal (voted down twice lately, 3 times if you go back a few years) has no new gym involved in it...Why? because its a Football town? with all that said the Town is still looked upon as BIG PROGRAM...well I have news...it isn't, had they joined with NB in GB, BB, GV, FB, it would have been dominance at its finest credit to great athletes, just like the other Region 2 dominant programs in the past few years
Now, I grew up in Cavalier County and there were 12 schools back then and now there is essentially one LAEM, should they be dominant in every sport? they'd better be! they have a girl who quit the team (because she didn't see the floor) that would Start on every class B program in the State and some Class A's....if you have that scenario going on in your Class B Program, you are an unusual force, but not so unusual as some of the others that rank in the top 6 or 7 or 10 also have that luxury.....so leading into "these teams should be in a middle division if there were 3 classes"? thats fine....it would actually be more fun on here and everybody wouldn't be sucking on the Bigs of B like they do now....and thats fine too IMO, because there are so many who can't wait for their summer ball etc etc, just to get a chance at actually winning a few games or maybe a lot of games, instead of not winning one all season..........Class B isn't gone, its just changed so much that even the Media only covers the Suburbs and bedroom communities if you will...what is gone, is true rural and true one school programs...but Class B and the hype would be over for good,
I completely disagree with this statement. When the Northstar was in existence (which was similar to a 3rd class), was the class B hype less? Before the private schools started dominating class b, was the hype less? Honestly I think a 3rd class would raise the hype for the small class state tournament.
Sorenson23 wrote:Don't know if this is the section to post this. But what is the deadline for teams if they want to co-op for the 2020-21 basketball season?
GOPACKGO!!! wrote:It's time to get this done. Co-ops are forming bigger co-ops because they can't compete as a co-op. SMH Soon you will have an entire county trying to compete with the suburbs. Heck we probably already do for all I know.
The Schwab wrote:Here are the list of schools that are in a co-op not consolidation (meaning they have separate schools but combine for sports)
Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier
Langdon-Edmore-Munich
Benson County
Strasburg-Zeeland
North Border
Glen Ullin-Hebron
Linton-HMB
LaMoure Litchville/Marion
Tri-State
Turtle Lake Mercer/McClusky
TGU
Drayton Valley-Edinburg
Harvey Wells County
Burke County
Wilton Wing
Heart River
Park River/Fordville-Lankin
Medina/Pingree Buchannon
Napoleon/Gackle Streeter
Wyndmere Lidgerwood
Grant County
South Border
Finley Sharon Hope Page
ndlionsfan wrote:
I do not see any of the above teams splitting up due to one or both of the coop schools being too small. That only takes about 6 teams and turns it into an additional 12 if a third class is developed.
The Schwab wrote:Heart River could for sure split up Belfield (79) and South Heart (104) for HS enrollments
Wyndmere (69) and Lidgerwood (56) probably could
Flip wrote:ndlionsfan wrote:
I do not see any of the above teams splitting up due to one or both of the coop schools being too small. That only takes about 6 teams and turns it into an additional 12 if a third class is developed.
12? wouldn't it be 6?
Hatton (68), Midway (46), Minto (77), Central Valley (49) don't want to get out of their co-ops.
Run4Fun2009 wrote:Milnor-North Sargent will be adding Sargent Central next year and become Sargent County. (Sargent Central has been struggling with numbers and finding a coop partner for years).
Flip wrote:Run4Fun2009 wrote:Milnor-North Sargent will be adding Sargent Central next year and become Sargent County. (Sargent Central has been struggling with numbers and finding a coop partner for years).
And its not like these schools that could get by on their own for a couple years are growing communities.
ndlionsfan wrote:
I think the ship has sailed on the 3 class system. With all the coops now I just don't see it changing to go back to single town teams if a third class in introduced. 10-15 years ago would have been the perfect time to get it started but now is just too late.
The Schwab wrote:I disagree that it wouldn't be a good time to go to 3 class system: This model is just going off of my "success model" combining school size and tradition
Class AA- Current Class A teams
Class A- East- Central Cass, Kindred, Lisbon, Hillsboro-Central Valley, Northern Cass, Grafton, Fargo Oak Grove, Carrington, Rugby, Thompson, Langdon-Edmore-Munich, Oakes, Hatton-Northwood, Four Winds-Minnewauken, Bismarck Shiloh Christian, Velva
West-New Town, Beulah, Stanley, Heart River, Standing Rock, Hazen, Dickinson Trinity, Nedrose, Minot Bishop Ryan, South Prairie, Bowman County, Minot Our Redeemers, Williston Trinity Christian, Bottineau, DLB
Class B- Everyone else
This is a rough draft I literally put together in 5 minutes. If something doesn't make sense, so be it, but this is a thing that could work. We can have 3 classes and have different criteria than strictly school size.
The Schwab wrote:Here are the list of schools that are in a co-op not consolidation (meaning they have separate schools but combine for sports)
Four-Winds/Minnewauken
Hatton-Northwood
Hillsboro-Central Valley
Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier
Langdon-Edmore-Munich
Benson County
Strasburg-Zeeland
North Border (2 different high schools in one district I believe)
Glen Ullin-Hebron
Linton-HMB
LaMoure Litchville/Marion
Tri-State
Turtle Lake Mercer/McClusky
TGU (2 different high schools, one district I think)
Midway-Minto
Drayton Valley-Edinburg
Harvey Wells County
Burke County
Wilton Wing
Heart River
Park River/Fordville-Lankin
Milnor North Sargent
Medina/Pingree Buchannon
Napoleon/Gackle Streeter
Wyndmere Lidgerwood
Grant County
South Border
Finley Sharon Hope Page
I'm pretty sure that these are the Co-ops of Class B (Different High Schools combining for sports) I know that there are more teams that have multiple town names, but I don't think they have different high schools.
How many of these could be separate for sports?
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