caserace0710 wrote:I read that teams cannot opt-down to A. The success factor is very similar to what Indiana uses.
Some questions I have are
- If a team has a success factor greater than 12 and has to opt-up, does the lowest team go down as like a team opting-up a division as long as the criteria are met?
- If a team opts-up and the lowest enrollment school in the next division doesn't meet the criteria to opt-down because they made the playoffs twice in the last four seasons, do they still move down?
NDPREP wrote:Now I think the Beulah's and HCV will opt up but they may need 1-2 more to fill out that division. That all remains to be seen on what the new AA schools do, I think a lot of them want to be in AAA I mean south was just in the AAA playoffs I can't see them wanting to be down in AA but maybe I am misreading that.
B-oldtimer wrote:I was looking at this plan and class A level of 11 man now has the biggest difference in size of schools competing in the state. The moving of HCV, Central Cass, Beulah, Kindred and couple of other schools back to A seems step in wrong direction especially these schools are not decreasing in size but growing in size. The problem we have here is we have small group of schools that don't fit in either grouping and if move them up they are overmatched and if move them down they have real advantage in competing with other schools because of their size.
second thing I see nothing here for six man football and number schools that been have playing independent schedule because of participation numbers. I wonder how many more schools are going to be in that situation because football risks to injury. these are some other points I think that should be thought of because the times are changing fast.
B-oldtimer wrote:I was looking at this plan and class A level of 11 man now has the biggest difference in size of schools competing in the state. The moving of HCV, Central Cass, Beulah, Kindred and couple of other schools back to A seems step in wrong direction especially these schools are not decreasing in size but growing in size. The problem we have here is we have small group of schools that don't fit in either grouping and if move them up they are overmatched and if move them down they have real advantage in competing with other schools because of their size.
second thing I see nothing here for six man football and number schools that been have playing independent schedule because of participation numbers. I wonder how many more schools are going to be in that situation because football risks to injury. these are some other points I think that should be thought of because the times are changing fast.
maddog1971 wrote:Class 3A
Minot, West Fargo Sheyenne, Williston, West Fargo High, Bismarck Century, Bismarck Legacy, Bismarck High, Fargo Davies, Dickinson, GF Central, Mandan
Class 2A
Fargo North, GF Red River, Fargo South, Jamestown, Watford City, Devils Lake, Fargo Shanley, Valley City, Wahpeton, Bismarck St. Mary’s, Turtle Mountain.
ND Sports Fan wrote:A step in the right direction for sure.
As I understand it, this is actually the 2021-22 plan, which means the current AAA, AA, A, 9-man structure from last fall is still in place for Fall 2020. That would make sense as each football plan is a 2-year plan currently and last fall was the 1st year of the current plan. This is generally voted on and approved in October of each year at the state conference.
Also, regarding movement. I believe you can opt up as high as you would like, if approved, however, one of the overall goals of this proposed structure is to eliminate the every 2-year uncertainty. Further, to have all Class A schools in AAA and AA, and all Class B schools in A and 9-man. This keeps schools together with their natural opponents in all other sports and reduces statewide travel.
This is LONG overdue. I am hopeful this can get approval across the state.
B-oldtimer wrote:I find it interesting in Herald article this plan was address problems of schools like Red River and Grand Forks central competing with larger and more dominant programs in class 3 A. They are complaining of low numbers and not making playoffs etc in the division they are in. Now we come to smaller class b schools in sports where they have requested a change and Activities Association has buried requests by not being able to come up with a plan. I guess who you are and size of the town asking matters but if your small you just have to learn to compete and get better or quit and go with another small town until there are none left. I think they are going to have to do something with those large class b schools in A or same thing is going to happen at that level but of course smaller schools in A are not as important as larger b closer to Fargo's and Bismarck's can't have whole bunch of towns not close to large cities in the state just to hard to cover and nobody cares about what's happening out there because everything of importance is around these large towns and doesn't fit media business model.
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