BBfan4life wrote:Here is some food for thought. Eliminate the Regional 3/4 place game because it means nothing. There isn't a lot of effort and both teams are always sulking because they are eliminated. My idea; have Region 1,2,3,and 4 play the championship game on Saturday afternoon of the regional week and play it at the same venue..4 great games and will be well attended at say the fargo civic or Jamestown. Play the Regional 5,6,7, and 8 at like Bismarck or Dickinson. Similar format as the Football championships. To avoid any team from gaining an advantage from playing at these venues allow all the teams a practice time on Friday to get used to the gym and rims etc. This use to happen back in the 80's and 90's. I was told someone from Edgeley in the 3rd place game lost a tooth last night. What a waste of losing a tooth for a 3rd place trophy. Any thoughts?
Sniper wrote:As for the third place game, I don’t think giving the athletes one more game is a bad thing. They only get one chance to compete in high school basketball so awarding the teams who advanced to the final four of their region with two guaranteed games does not bother me. It’s up to the athletes to choose how hard they want to compete. If you do not want to watch a sort of “meaningless” game then show up after and just watch the championship game.
Flip wrote:Someone came up with an idea to play an all star game prior to the championship game. I kind of like that idea. Play one district vs the other. Obviously, have some alternates because some of your all stars will be in the championship game.
boblee wrote:Being a Minnesota guy, I'd love to see the elimination of the 3rd/4th place game. Since that isn't going to happen, I'd like to see coaches use it to play some of the older kids on the roster that don't play a ton during the stretch drive. I suppose it comes down to the philosophy of how you run your program.
Minnesota does a lot of things really, really well that whenever they get brought up in North Dakota people whine about travel. For ONE DAY it shouldn't be a big deal.
If Region 1 & Region 2 played their title games at 6 PM and 8 PM at the SHAC on a Thursday or Friday night, you'd get a great crowd. Because it only happens one time.
The all-star thing won't ever fly with the current NDHSAA setup. Based on current rules, do play in an all-star game you'd have to be a senior and all the high school sports would have to be over otherwise you'd lose eligibility. That's why VB/BB/FB/SB all play their all-star games in June or July.
boblee wrote:Again - look at the successful MN model. Moorhead hockey will travel to Bemidji to play St. Michael-Albertville in the section final Wednesday night. That place will have a huge crowd and both teams will be ecstatic to play in that game and that environment.
If Grafton and Thompson have to drive to Fargo are they going to cry foul? Maybe because of the current model.
ProudPirate wrote:I agree I think it would be great event & good for the sport but you're right the NDHSAA would never allow it. It's all about the money. Look what they did to softball by taking apart a great Class A/B state tourney so now they can charge more & claim it's better attended when everyone who's there knows it's not. They combine VB state so they can save money although I personally like having them both together.
I like the 2 game format vs 4 but as a region 1 dude I'd prefer Science & Jamestown to Fargo. The SHAC is a great venue now but Fargo really doesn't care if it's there or not where I believe the other 2 communities would.
Sniper wrote:boblee wrote:Again - look at the successful MN model. Moorhead hockey will travel to Bemidji to play St. Michael-Albertville in the section final Wednesday night. That place will have a huge crowd and both teams will be ecstatic to play in that game and that environment.
If Grafton and Thompson have to drive to Fargo are they going to cry foul? Maybe because of the current model.
What is unsuccessful about the ND model? I have never been to a region championship that didn’t have a large crowd and a great environment. I’ve never even been to a district championship where the gym wasn’t packed. My philosophy is if it isn’t broke don’t fix it.
NDPREP wrote:ProudPirate wrote:I agree I think it would be great event & good for the sport but you're right the NDHSAA would never allow it. It's all about the money. Look what they did to softball by taking apart a great Class A/B state tourney so now they can charge more & claim it's better attended when everyone who's there knows it's not. They combine VB state so they can save money although I personally like having them both together.
I like the 2 game format vs 4 but as a region 1 dude I'd prefer Science & Jamestown to Fargo. The SHAC is a great venue now but Fargo really doesn't care if it's there or not where I believe the other 2 communities would.
Didn't they do this because of parent complaints? A lot of B towns were making softball and baseball state and since they are on the same weekend the decided to pump B softball with B baseball in the same town and like wise with the A schools?
airmail wrote:Sniper wrote:As for the third place game, I don’t think giving the athletes one more game is a bad thing. They only get one chance to compete in high school basketball so awarding the teams who advanced to the final four of their region with two guaranteed games does not bother me. It’s up to the athletes to choose how hard they want to compete. If you do not want to watch a sort of “meaningless” game then show up after and just watch the championship game.
I agree. Some athletes, seniors especially, will embrace knowing that "this is it", and want to give it one final shot. I've never minded the third place games, I guess.
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