scc wrote:I'll tell you one thing. They weren't seeded based on the media poll. If they were, Thompson would have been #4 and Kindred #5. As a coach, one strategy you could employ is to seed the tournament in a way that might help you along the way. I don't know whether any coaches do that, but it's feasible. I think the day will come when a formula will determine things, but please seed the tournament 1 through 8.
justplayalready wrote:I know this is kinda new 2012-13 ish??? Anyone know what the matchups were that made people say this thing needs to be seeded??? Boys side or girls???
The Schwab wrote:If you have a QRF that values all games teams play (not just against ND competition) use that to seed the 8 state tournament qualifiers. My thoughts on seeding, seed all 1-8.
airmail wrote:The Schwab wrote:If you have a QRF that values all games teams play (not just against ND competition) use that to seed the 8 state tournament qualifiers. My thoughts on seeding, seed all 1-8.
Does the northdakota-scores.net site utilize all competition in the QRF calculation, or just ND competition?
The Schwab wrote:airmail wrote:The Schwab wrote:If you have a QRF that values all games teams play (not just against ND competition) use that to seed the 8 state tournament qualifiers. My thoughts on seeding, seed all 1-8.
Does the northdakota-scores.net site utilize all competition in the QRF calculation, or just ND competition?
I am unsure of the answer to that question.
justplayalready wrote:After watching the first semi of the girls B, TV wants me to believe that KIlldeer, Thompson and Grant County are these huge underdogs as unseeded teams??? I get trying to add more drama but come on. An "unseeded" team knocking off a "seeded" team at the B is not this huge dramatic upset.
These "seedings" really mean nothing, actually giving a team extra motivation if they believe themselves an underdog based on a seeding that has no credibility??? Best I can figure teams are seeded due to record and media poll position? Unless there is late season head to head data a coaches opinion isn't really much either..A true indicator of the quality of a team???
I get that seeing two unbeaten teams at 1 pm on Thursday may not be what the media wants to see...but don't tell me that these are always the two best teams and the championship is decided on Thursday
I'd rather have truly random seedings then the current almost random(and meaningless) seedings that are portrayed as accurate portrayal of the strength of the team..
Fake news??? Media Fodder???
justplayalready wrote:No anger at all, no problem with why it's done or how it's done...just questioned the TV media portraying the lower seeded team as somehow being an underdog where the seeding seemed to be based on record first, and then likely polling. I do disagree that this wasn't used as motivation for the team...GC coach said it a halftime of Friday night game. Polls are flawed, records don't always tell the truth and hindsight is 20/20 etc. Too me I didn't see GC beating Shiloh, Kindred, MPB, and Kildeer on neutral courts as any type "upset", I guess you can call it an upset if you only count records.
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