I Think you have it figured out. Makes sense. But every year some towns move in and out by enrollment, or by some teams opting up. Does any team opt up anymore?theallaroundballer wrote:So we're in the slowest part of the sports calendar, and so not much banter here on the board. I'd like to change that. The smell of fall will be here before we know it, and Friday night lights will be upon us. And with that, the schmucks in Valley City once again disappointed with the new plan. I'm glad A is reverting back to 32 teams, but very upset about how it comes at the expense of AA. 10 teams and a statewide format? Wahpeton to Watford City? Is this a joke? The NDHSAA goes ape over missed school time due to extracurriculars, and yet they signed off on this cluster? Those kids will miss a whole day being on a bus for 8 hours. But of course they won't even look into using the QRF formula to save travel costs, because numbers and math are for nerds. This is FOOTBAWW for real men. We don't use any of those convoluted analytics conceived by those filthy commies from across the Red.
And yeah, let's continue to coddle some of these 9 man schools that would beat 65-75% of the teams competing in A right now. I applaud Nedrose for opting up knowing they're gonna got smoked every week for the next two years. You take your lumps early, recruit kids with character and integrity, and build a winning culture from there. But why do any of that? Why send your kid to Central or RR when they can be a star for Thompson? Cavalier 3-peated in AA 15 years ago. Oakes has the 2nd biggest 9 man enrollment behind Shiloh. And I don't think I need to elaborate on the Skyhawks.
So without further ado, let me introduce my plan. It keeps the 4 class system with a 16-16-32-35 spread. Would appreciate discussion and opinions from anyone interested. 9 man is easily the most difficult to segregate into regions as the majority of schools skew east. I did four regions with nine teams with top 4 making the playoffs. I know this leaves no opportunity for non-region games, but because of the expanded number of regions teams, there's a chance for traditional rivals to play. A six for six is doable, but I want to see what people think of the 4 with 9 first.
AAA (No changes)
East
Central
Davies
Devils Lake
North
Red River
Sheyenne
South
WF
West
Bismarck
Century
Dickinson
Jamestown
Legacy
Mandan
Minot
Willison
AA (Some newcomers in the East)
East
Central Cass
Grafton
HCV
Kindred
Oak Grove (right behind PRFL, and a private to boot)
Park River-FL (3rd biggest total A enrollment behind Beulah and NT, and they'd more than compete in AA)
Shanley
Wahpeton
West
Beulah
New Town (I know, have a hard enough time in 9 man, but 2nd biggest after Beulah even with F & R meals)
Trinity
St. Mary's
Stanley
Watford City
Turtle Mtn.
Valley City
A (Seven biggest 9 man schools plus Standing Rock)
Region 1
Central Dakota
EEK
Lisbon
Maple Valley
Mayport-CG
M-NS/SC
Northern Cass
Oakes
2
Bottineau
Carrington
Cavalier
HWC
Langdon
Rugby
Thompson
W-N-G
3
Berthold
D-LB
Kenmare
Nedrose
Ryan
Trenton/TC
Velva
Williams Co.
4
Bowman Co.
Garrison
Hazen
Heart River
Killdeer
Shiloh
Southern McLean
SR (playing JV schedule this year, in a perfect world they'd be here)
9 Man
Region 1
FSHP
Hankinson
Lamoure
Napoleon
New Rockford
Richland
South Border
Steele
Wyndmere/Lidgerwood
2
Benson Co.
Four Winds
Hatton/Northwood
Lakota
Larimore
Midway/Minto
North Border
North Star
St. John
3
Divide County
Drake
Dunseith
MLS
North Prairie
Parshall
Ray
Surrey
TGU
4
Beach
Central McLean
Grant Co.
Hettinger
Linton
Mott-Regent
New Salem
Richardton-Taylor
Strasburg-Zeeland
madseason wrote:A kid got chewed out for not making it to weightlifting class. He had to help out on the farm throwing square bales. I have thrown square bales. That is a lot more work than lifting weights IMO!. It is cardio and lifting weights!! That coach should go out with this kid and work for a couple hours throwing bales???? Too many tough farm kids that don't play football cause of BS like this. The coach might have lost a great freshman lineman?
Not sure where it was. But school used to start after labor day, so the farm kids could help with the harvest. Now days, the schools don't give a crap about farmers, EXCEPT they care about their TAX dollars!! When I was in high school (not that long ago 80s) I could get a waiver and miss the first couple of weeks of school to help on the farm. Highly doubt a kid could get that now?theallaroundballer wrote:madseason wrote:A kid got chewed out for not making it to weightlifting class. He had to help out on the farm throwing square bales. I have thrown square bales. That is a lot more work than lifting weights IMO!. It is cardio and lifting weights!! That coach should go out with this kid and work for a couple hours throwing bales???? Too many tough farm kids that don't play football cause of BS like this. The coach might have lost a great freshman lineman?
Was this in Park River, Mad?
45 is the new 25!!NDPREP wrote:I know we don't want to think we are getting old but who are we kidding the 80s were 30 years ago, a good chunk of current teachers weren't even born then, haha!
magic man wrote:
That BS talk of getting a reduction in number based on free and reduced lunch, is nuts.. A kid is a kid.. Not a half of a kid, if he qualifies for a lunch break.
Flip wrote:magic man wrote:
That BS talk of getting a reduction in number based on free and reduced lunch, is nuts.. A kid is a kid.. Not a half of a kid, if he qualifies for a lunch break.
Unless they're foreign exchange students, then we don't want to count them, right?
Mandan wrote:Just to clear up a few things here... Shanley and St Mary's have never had to "opt" up in basketball, they've been in class A forever and wouldn't be forced to move down unless they went below 200 total students. This isn't like football where the plan is redone every two years.
Shanley and St Mary's WANTED to stay in AAA but were not allowed to because there was no option provided to opt up into AAA. So if they had the choice, they'd probably love to be back up in AAA. Unless they've gotten comfortable dominating AA, but I'm guessing they'd prefer to be AAA if given the choice.
Run4Fun2009 wrote:Mandan wrote:Just to clear up a few things here... Shanley and St Mary's have never had to "opt" up in basketball, they've been in class A forever and wouldn't be forced to move down unless they went below 200 total students. This isn't like football where the plan is redone every two years.
Shanley and St Mary's WANTED to stay in AAA but were not allowed to because there was no option provided to opt up into AAA. So if they had the choice, they'd probably love to be back up in AAA. Unless they've gotten comfortable dominating AA, but I'm guessing they'd prefer to be AAA if given the choice.
The cutoff is 325 students and there were a few years where Shanley was well under that and still chose to stay in A for BB (don't know about BSM on this)
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