wem wrote:They don't play D-1 cause they are not recruited by D-1. Why aren't they recruited by D-1, cause the media coverage and coach involvement at the B level is very, very limited. I know for a fact that unless a parent takes it upon themselves to send tape around to D-1 schools if they play at B level, they will not get anymore than offers from Mary, VC, Jamestown, etc. And many great class B kids don't even get that.
wem wrote:They don't play D-1 cause they are not recruited by D-1. Why aren't they recruited by D-1, cause the media coverage and coach involvement at the B level is very, very limited. I know for a fact that unless a parent takes it upon themselves to send tape around to D-1 schools if they play at B level, they will not get anymore than offers from Mary, VC, Jamestown, etc. And many great class B kids don't even get that.
ProudPirate wrote:Cody Mauch from Hankinson is playing D1, just D1 football where he is more suited. Nick Mauch also got a call from Moorehead but hes not interested in playing college ball. Congrats to Moody & ALL the kids being mentioned. Quite an honor & i agree most B coaches don't get involved in recruiting or getting their kids ready for college ball.
d_fense wrote:Almost no way he would average 40 points in region 1.
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wem wrote:They don't play D-1 cause they are not recruited by D-1. Why aren't they recruited by D-1, cause the media coverage and coach involvement at the B level is very, very limited. I know for a fact that unless a parent takes it upon themselves to send tape around to D-1 schools if they play at B level, they will not get anymore than offers from Mary, VC, Jamestown, etc. And many great class B kids don't even get that.
knowledge wrote:Passion is great. Delusion is a completely different issue.
wem wrote:BB11&Lackofknowledge; where are you from? Obviously you are from a private, or class A school. What I said is absolutely the truth as far as good kids getting passed up unless parents send film themselves. At the B level coaches get paid so little, they cant afford the time it takes for the film and followups. Do the top notch kids at the B level get a chance, maybe, but only if there willing to walk on. Not many kids at any level are willing to do that. Have you been through this? If not, shutup. If so, I can't wait for your answer.
wem wrote:You guys have taken a comment and turned it into a book. Maybe you need to go back and look at the post before you write the book. I was sticking up for small town coaches vs. criticizing them. I don't expect them to send film of any player they see worthy. if they aren't asked. Most coaches will if asked. The B coaches have tons of other responsibilities within the school, or in many cases don't even work at the school. They have there real jobs to take care of. Class A has 3-4 assistant coaches, teach PE within the school, and can focus on getting there kids to next level. Where in my comments did I say that I felt the B Kids were equal to A kids overall. Its a fact that if you play at A Level vs B, all things being equal, the A kid has the advantage. The very dominant kids at B level aren't missed, but the others are more likely to fall under the radar.
Before the rest of you commenters chime in and pile on, maybe you should read the post before you make a comment like some of the others did.
Knowledge, you don't have to worry about if my kid was affected by film not getting passed on. I'm not talking about my own in this discussion. (I'm sure you were concerned) I'm talking bout many years of watching and coaching the game.
Anybody that thinks media, big school, large coaching staffs, parent/alumni/boosters/and parent donators to colleges doesn't have an influence in recruiting, has no creditability with me; IT DOES!
wem wrote:Why aren't they recruited by D-1, cause the media coverage and coach involvement at the B level is very, very limited. I know for a fact that unless a parent takes it upon themselves to send tape around to D-1 schools if they play at B level, they will not get anymore than offers from Mary, VC, Jamestown, etc. And many great class B kids don't even get that.
wem wrote:BB11&Lackofknowledge; where are you from? Obviously you are from a private, or class A school. What I said is absolutely the truth as far as good kids getting passed up unless parents send film themselves. At the B level coaches get paid so little, they cant afford the time it takes for the film and followups. Do the top notch kids at the B level get a chance, maybe, but only if there willing to walk on. Not many kids at any level are willing to do that. Have you been through this? If not, shutup. If so, I can't wait for your answer.
Makotifarmguy wrote:I am extremely happy that Breske proved me wrong. When I am wrong it means that a player excelled and was able to make that leap. I am more than happy to be wrong about things like this.
As I said back then...I wish her the best of luck.
Makotifarmguy wrote:wem....unfortunately you are so incorrect I am not sure where to start, although knowledge kind of took care of the novel.
Class B kids aren't recruited because they aren't good enough. The 4 time all region kid can't play at WSC, LRSC, or NDSCS. Some might but most won't. Class A kids get a better shake because they adjust much better to the level of basketball at the D-1 JUCO level.
Our Class B schools/parents have incredible blinders on when it comes to basketball at the college level. Not just for the boys but girls as well. I always get a kick out of the commentators..."he is going D-1"...No, he is going to a D-1 school where he (and his parents) will find out that they are not cut out to play at that level.
My wife and I have been D-1 JUCO fans for more than 15 yrs now and what I see at that level is so far beyond what people think. They think their 20 pts/game son/daughter can go off to a big school only to show up a year later at the JUCO and come off the bench.
We love our Class B kids and schools, but the level they need to attain to play college ball is far greater than grade 13.
knowledge wrote:
Another example would be the 2013 Mr. Basketball argument:
As I recall many Class B folks that thought Mr. Hagler was the clear cut winner and blamed Class A bias for the eventual AJ Jacobson win. I thought that Hagler was a tremendous HS player and has had a nice career for the Jimmies. Jacobson, also a tremendous HS player has had a similarly nice career at NDSU. In fact if you look at their stats they're very comparable:
http://gobison.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=5362
http://www.jimmieathletics.com/roster/17/1/5728.php
Just as in high school, if they traded places in college would the stats be as similar. Would Hagler be putting up his Jimmie numbers at SU? Would Jacobson only be putting up his SU numbers in the North Star? I think there'd be a huge difference. Size, skill, etc.... play into all of this and in that matter most Class B kids just don't compare.
The only two years that I have disagreed with Mr. Basketball when it should've gone to the Class B kids were 1999 when I thought Kraft was a better HS player and if his feet don't give out would've been a better college player and 2003 when I thought Craig Nelson was the better HS player and college prospect. His college assist to turnover rate while being the floor general for one of the all time greats in Coach Meyer makes me feel vindicated.
Makotifarmguy wrote:wem....unfortunately you are so incorrect I am not sure where to start, although knowledge kind of took care of the novel.
Class B kids aren't recruited because they aren't good enough. The 4 time all region kid can't play at WSC, LRSC, or NDSCS. Some might but most won't. Class A kids get a better shake because they adjust much better to the level of basketball at the D-1 JUCO level.
Our Class B schools/parents have incredible blinders on when it comes to basketball at the college level. Not just for the boys but girls as well. I always get a kick out of the commentators..."he is going D-1"...No, he is going to a D-1 school where he (and his parents) will find out that they are not cut out to play at that level.
My wife and I have been D-1 JUCO fans for more than 15 yrs now and what I see at that level is so far beyond what people think. They think their 20 pts/game son/daughter can go off to a big school only to show up a year later at the JUCO and come off the bench.
We love our Class B kids and schools, but the level they need to attain to play college ball is far greater than grade 13.
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