Sportsrube wrote:In our District the co-ops have always been about numbers - School A only has 6 kids, school B has 7 so they co-op. None of the co-ops in our District have been to create a more competitive program, it has just simply been about numbers. (I'm talking basketball only here.) It would be nice to be able to go back to how it was 20 years ago where every small town had a school and enough kids to field a team - less travel, great rivalries, etc.... unfortunately that is not going to happen. I can actually see more schools co-oping in order to try and compete with the larger schools in their District/Region. I hope that doesn't happen, but it wouldn't surprise me.
The Schwab wrote:Sportsrube wrote:In our District the co-ops have always been about numbers - School A only has 6 kids, school B has 7 so they co-op. None of the co-ops in our District have been to create a more competitive program, it has just simply been about numbers. (I'm talking basketball only here.) It would be nice to be able to go back to how it was 20 years ago where every small town had a school and enough kids to field a team - less travel, great rivalries, etc.... unfortunately that is not going to happen. I can actually see more schools co-oping in order to try and compete with the larger schools in their District/Region. I hope that doesn't happen, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Do you think that participation numbers dropping could be due to lack of success of programs due to size of schools they play? Not necessarily my belief but it makes sense.
Sportsrube wrote:The Schwab wrote:Sportsrube wrote:In our District the co-ops have always been about numbers - School A only has 6 kids, school B has 7 so they co-op. None of the co-ops in our District have been to create a more competitive program, it has just simply been about numbers. (I'm talking basketball only here.) It would be nice to be able to go back to how it was 20 years ago where every small town had a school and enough kids to field a team - less travel, great rivalries, etc.... unfortunately that is not going to happen. I can actually see more schools co-oping in order to try and compete with the larger schools in their District/Region. I hope that doesn't happen, but it wouldn't surprise me.
Do you think that participation numbers dropping could be due to lack of success of programs due to size of schools they play? Not necessarily my belief but it makes sense.
Most of the schools in my District are pretty small and in most cases it is just a lack of kids. Some of the schools in our District lose some guys to wrestling, but I doubt many of them would play basketball if there wasn't wrestling. I think you make a valid point with a few kids not participating because they don't want to compete against teams that come from larger schools, but I don't think it is many.
wem wrote:An ex- oak grove coach told me this in regards to alleged recruiting; We do not recruit, but we do get WF, Moorhead, South, Norths, etc. #6, 7 an 8 players that want to start or get more playin time. Also, I will add that the wellness centers /gyms/fields, don't hurt either.
wem wrote:An ex- oak grove coach told me this in regards to alleged recruiting; We do not recruit, but we do get WF, Moorhead, South, Norths, etc. #6, 7 an 8 players that want to start or get more playin time.
74Magic wrote:I would concur with the fact that Oak Grove does pick up players who are borderline players on other teams who have a better chance to play at Oak Grove than they would at their schools in the FM area.
knowledge wrote:In my time there were a couple transfers that came over after freshman year. One came as a soph because of a unsatisfactory feeling towards the area school he was attending (hazing, etc...). Another came a year later and sat out the transfer time (same school, same crap). Otherwise I cannot think of any player from that time frame that came over "late" (except for the transfer story above).
During the early years of Coach Card taking over, two players came over from Fargo South. Neither were starters for OG, both were role guys at best for South. They came over as juniors, played JV and were rotation players as seniors (I believe this to be accurate, but could be off a bit....Run???)
OG did also lose a starter, "A" state champ, and D1 baseball player to Fargo North in the early 2000s. They also lost one of Fargo Davies top career scorers that would've been on the State Championship team. He was at OG for some of Elem and all of middle school. I aslo believe a young man is driving from Fargo to Enderlin each day that started his middle schooling at OG. Sometimes people leave the school too.
knowledge wrote:And they were both in Kindred prior to that. It was all a parental/family decision to leave Kindred. They both could've played together there. Would it have been an issue had one gone to Lisbon and the other Enderlin? Or had they lived on the north side of Fargo instead of south, had one driven to Northern Cass rather than OG? This is such a rare situation in the state of ND. If open enrollment didn't exist, I could see a larger issue but with open enrollment this stuff can and does happen with public schools, just not with as much venom against the school benefiting. Had their been message boards in the mid to late 90's would people have complained that Finley-Sharon lost players to MPCG? I guess we'll never now, but the balance of power was changed with those moves and w/o tuition.
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