Bisonguy06 wrote:Just one man's opinion here:
Please note here that I did not advocate the stronger team 'running up the score' or anything of the sort. Go deep into your bench, pull the press, slow the pace, and work the shot clock. That's coaching 101. Give coaches this opportunity rather than handcuffing them with the mercy rule, and most of them will do the right thing. We don't have to pack it in and go home early.
I think you are 100% right. My two cents, I think a three class system would fix this IMO.wan2bqb wrote:8) I agree the rule has to be tweaked if they insist on legislating morality. They (district chairs) should just have a meeting and discuss the running up the score issue. And don't think that coaches don't remember who runs up the score on them or on other teams when one of those programs has an off year. Karma as they say is a b*tch
I attended a game earlier this year and three fouls wear committed after the mercy rule and those three fouls and the substitutions after both the first free throw and the second ran over 5 min off the clock. It did have the extended effect of keeping scoring down. Under 20 points scored in the fourth by both teams combined. Hate the rule not the intent. You cannot legislate morality. Coaches should do the right thing, you have a bench and a shot clock, use it! Call off the pressure, use the time to run your offense and work on the things you need to for later in the season. In other words COACH! Valuable time for young kids or even older kids that don't see the court much. You may need them to have game time experience come the end of the year. Just my thoughts.
Run4Fun2009 wrote:Once it reaches 30...clock doesn't stop (except time outs and/or injuries)
d_fense wrote:Even if the score get to even? It is unlikely but stranger things have happened.
Flip wrote:d_fense wrote:Even if the score get to even? It is unlikely but stranger things have happened.
you can think of a few times when a HS team has come back from 30?
Agree 100% Why not just end the game if one team is ahead by 30? Cause that's what you are teaching IMO (we give up). At least stop the clock for free throws?Bisonguy06 wrote:Just one man's opinion here:
There's a bit of a contradiction here in what you are saying.
I'm hearing that the best way to make these lopsided games competitive is for the stronger team's JV girls to play more minutes against the weaker team's varsity. And I agree. The problem with the mercy rule is that it chews up all of these more competitive minutes with those two units on the floor.
Keep in mind that the JV game that you're referring to was likely non-competitive as well (and may have been shortened by the mercy rule). Those JV starters were likely yanked early in the name of mercy. Or, depending on the opponent, the C or JV or both games may have been dropped altogether. (This is becoming all too common).
Whatever the good intentions may be, you have to at least acknowledge that players are being robbed of minutes here. Though spectators may get restless, we play these games for the growth of student-athletes. Every minute of every game is a teachable moment, and all competitors can be taught to play hard to the final buzzer, regardless of the score.
Please note here that I did not advocate the stronger team 'running up the score' or anything of the sort. Go deep into your bench, pull the press, slow the pace, and work the shot clock. That's coaching 101. Give coaches this opportunity rather than handcuffing them with the mercy rule, and most of them will do the right thing. We don't have to pack it in and go home early.
scc wrote:The clock never returns to normal once the mercy rule is in effect.
The Schwab wrote:scc wrote:The clock never returns to normal once the mercy rule is in effect.
I thought that if the score got under 20 points it would return to normal timing.
Flip wrote:They are supposed to clear the lane and finish the FTs.
Run4Fun2009 wrote:I've been told that once you are down under 5 seconds and FTs are awarded you are allowed to stop the clock and play it as a live FT scenario. Starting the clock on the miss or after the makes his 1 or 2 shots. (Saw this and did this in a MN game this season).
Flip wrote:Run4Fun2009 wrote:I've been told that once you are down under 5 seconds and FTs are awarded you are allowed to stop the clock and play it as a live FT scenario. Starting the clock on the miss or after the makes his 1 or 2 shots. (Saw this and did this in a MN game this season).
yeah, I haven't heard what you're supposed to do if it's going to hit 0 during the FTs. What I posted above was either sent out in an email to coaches or at the coach's association meeting. I can't remember. I'm old. In MN I've seen them stop the clock with a second left to shoot the FTs. In the end it makes very little difference. You're going to get to shoot the FTs and there will be no time or next to no time left on the clock.
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