lovwatchingsports wrote:Thanks run for all the info on all games in all the div. Question? Does VC play Carrington to see who goes on to the next tourney?
alphadawg wrote:Last year Carrington and Wapheton both went and Carrington beat Wapheton
Dualsportfan wrote:3 years, 3 different formats. 2014-Carrington and Wahpeton play in a one game playoff to see who represents ND in the division 2 tourney, 2015-Both Carrington and Wahpeton are invited to the D2 tourney, 2016-only the A winner (Valley City) is invited to the D2 tourney. Valley City will represent ND well. They are playing good baseball, they are well coached and they are a classy bunch of young men. But, if the goal of American Legion baseball is to "promote healthy competition, sportsmanship and good citizenship" how does excluding a state champion that placed 3rd out of 12 teams last year at that tournament, lost to the eventual champion in extra innings in the semi-finals and, most importantly, represented their state with class, help to accomplish those goals? Those young men came back from that tournament last year as better baseball players and better citizens. They created excitement for baseball in their community and they had a new appreciation of the legion organization. Why you wouldn't offer that opportunity to all of your state champions is beyond me. It just seems to go against the mission of the organization. Maybe there is a good reason for the change; if someone knows please enlighten us. Best of luck to Valley City this year...keep it rolling guys.
Dualsportfan wrote:3 years, 3 different formats. 2014-Carrington and Wahpeton play in a one game playoff to see who represents ND in the division 2 tourney, 2015-Both Carrington and Wahpeton are invited to the D2 tourney, 2016-only the A winner (Valley City) is invited to the D2 tourney. Valley City will represent ND well. They are playing good baseball, they are well coached and they are a classy bunch of young men. But, if the goal of American Legion baseball is to "promote healthy competition, sportsmanship and good citizenship" how does excluding a state champion that placed 3rd out of 12 teams last year at that tournament, lost to the eventual champion in extra innings in the semi-finals and, most importantly, represented their state with class, help to accomplish those goals? Those young men came back from that tournament last year as better baseball players and better citizens. They created excitement for baseball in their community and they had a new appreciation of the legion organization. Why you wouldn't offer that opportunity to all of your state champions is beyond me. It just seems to go against the mission of the organization. Maybe there is a good reason for the change; if someone knows please enlighten us. Best of luck to Valley City this year...keep it rolling guys.
I would put money on it that Carrington would beat Valley City. They almost won the regional last year and they pretty much have everyone back this year. Total BS that they are not getting a chance IMO. Should have a playoff between the two or something.Rivershark wrote:Dualsportfan wrote:3 years, 3 different formats. 2014-Carrington and Wahpeton play in a one game playoff to see who represents ND in the division 2 tourney, 2015-Both Carrington and Wahpeton are invited to the D2 tourney, 2016-only the A winner (Valley City) is invited to the D2 tourney. Valley City will represent ND well. They are playing good baseball, they are well coached and they are a classy bunch of young men. But, if the goal of American Legion baseball is to "promote healthy competition, sportsmanship and good citizenship" how does excluding a state champion that placed 3rd out of 12 teams last year at that tournament, lost to the eventual champion in extra innings in the semi-finals and, most importantly, represented their state with class, help to accomplish those goals? Those young men came back from that tournament last year as better baseball players and better citizens. They created excitement for baseball in their community and they had a new appreciation of the legion organization. Why you wouldn't offer that opportunity to all of your state champions is beyond me. It just seems to go against the mission of the organization. Maybe there is a good reason for the change; if someone knows please enlighten us. Best of luck to Valley City this year...keep it rolling guys.
I don't know who the group is that makes these decisions, but it's a complete joke how the Class "B" teams continue to be left out of the advancing tournaments. I have good reason to believe that anyone of the top 4 Class "B" teams could have beaten Valley City or Wahpeton. The problem not only exists on the Legion level but also on the Babe Ruth level. North Dakota has a 13-15yr. "B" State Tournament, but what team get's to advance to the Midwest Pains 13-15 yr. Tournament, the Bismarck 15 year olds. I'm not saying that smaller towns are better than the Bismarck's, Fargo or Grand Forks, teams, but to exclude them completely takes away the opportunity to have a chance to play in a regional. I know for a fact that there are Class "B" teams that can beat the A teams. So the question is, does Carrington and the other good "B" teams choose to move up to the "A" level to have that opportunity?
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