Bigbrew22 wrote:Shilo will certainly become a historically strong team once they been around longer. It's not likely they will ever be in the bottom 3 in the region and will likely finish in the top 4 year after year. So in time they will make historic level.
NoDakinSouth wrote:Private schools do well because their parents put a premium on their child's performance in schools, paying for tuition and camps. Many of the "normal" Class B schools have a majority of parents that aren't involved in their child's education or extracurricular activities. Private schools have parents that are very involved by definition.
With the rules and penalties against recruiting, it doesn't enter into the equation except at a young age and doesn't generally effect elite athletes.
sportsphenom wrote:NoDakinSouth wrote:Private schools do well because their parents put a premium on their child's performance in schools, paying for tuition and camps. Many of the "normal" Class B schools have a majority of parents that aren't involved in their child's education or extracurricular activities. Private schools have parents that are very involved by definition.
With the rules and penalties against recruiting, it doesn't enter into the equation except at a young age and doesn't generally effect elite athletes.
As a parent in a "normal" Class B school who is very involved in their kid's activities I find this offensive. This is why people don't like Private schools, because of arrogant statements like this.
d_fense wrote:classB4ever wrote:NoDakinSouth wrote:Private schools do well because their parents put a premium on their child's performance in schools, paying for tuition and camps. Many of the "normal" Class B schools have a majority of parents that aren't involved in their child's education or extracurricular activities. Private schools have parents that are very involved by definition.
With the rules and penalties against recruiting, it doesn't enter into the equation except at a young age and doesn't generally effect elite athletes.
Referring to the above bold statement: Could you supply where you got that information from? Thank you.
Really??? To me that is like asking someone to site their source when they say "Traffic sure picks up at the start of a long weekend heading towards the lakes."
I think it is common sense. Ask someone who is in public education (a teacher) how often parents contact them with comments, questions, and or concerns regarding their students education. And as the students get older (after elementary school) is gets less and less quickly. What percent of high school parents speak to each of their children's teachers outside of parent teacher conferences even quarterly? Would it surprise you if only around 1/2 of parents attend their high school students parent teachers conferences. And I believe most schools only hold them twice a school year.
Your bolding went beyond the classroom and included extra curricular activities as well.
classB4ever wrote:d_fense wrote:classB4ever wrote:NoDakinSouth wrote:Private schools do well because their parents put a premium on their child's performance in schools, paying for tuition and camps. Many of the "normal" Class B schools have a majority of parents that aren't involved in their child's education or extracurricular activities. Private schools have parents that are very involved by definition.
With the rules and penalties against recruiting, it doesn't enter into the equation except at a young age and doesn't generally effect elite athletes.
Referring to the above bold statement: Could you supply where you got that information from? Thank you.
Really??? To me that is like asking someone to site their source when they say "Traffic sure picks up at the start of a long weekend heading towards the lakes."
I think it is common sense. Ask someone who is in public education (a teacher) how often parents contact them with comments, questions, and or concerns regarding their students education. And as the students get older (after elementary school) is gets less and less quickly. What percent of high school parents speak to each of their children's teachers outside of parent teacher conferences even quarterly? Would it surprise you if only around 1/2 of parents attend their high school students parent teachers conferences. And I believe most schools only hold them twice a school year.
Your bolding went beyond the classroom and included extra curricular activities as well.
Oh, my. Run pretty much summed up my feelings above and was spot on. I don't think the statement was common sense at all and quite frankly was a negative blanket statement towards a lot of parents. If it is true, then our rural ND society has failed miserably.
Also, your analogy is not even close. Let me give you one and show you why things like the above statement shouldn't be said:
Fact: I knew an athlete who was recruited by a private/parochial school once upon a time.
Conclusion: The majority of private/parochial schools recruit all the time.
It's a stupid conclusion and shouldn't be stated. I apologize for getting off topic.
Cavalier has been a dominant force in both 11-man and 9-man. Great tradition, great program. Their community, facilities, etc. show their passion for the game.
Sorenson23 wrote:What makes no sense to me I mean how fare is that having a 9 man team in Bismarck. For example Bismarck High, Bismarck Century, Bismarck Leagcy (class AAA) Bismarck St. Mary's (class AA) and Bismarck Shiloh Christian (9 man). I don't think so Shiloh has enough kids where they should be bumped up to 11 man. Hey they have more kids then where I'm from the Underwood-Turtle Lake-Mercer-McClusky area combined. And they bumped us up to 11 man. I mean aren't they one of the biggest schools in the western part of the state. I think any 9 man team located in Bismarck and Fargo should not be 9 man. I mean look at Fargo Oak Grove they were 9 man a few years ago and now they just went back 11 man. But i'm not referring to Minot or Williston at all because Minot Ryan is Class A and Tioga and Ray are 9 man. Smaller towns like Underwood, Washburn, Crosby, Napoleon, Linton, Strasburg just to name a few should stay 9 man. I can see Linton jumping to 11 man cause their a bit bigger than Washburn and Underwood. I know some of these smaller towns have enough enrollment to jump to 11 man. All I'm saying any school in a large community like Bismarck should be 11 man.
Sorenson23 wrote:What makes no sense to me I mean how fare is that having a 9 man team in Bismarck. For example Bismarck High, Bismarck Century, Bismarck Leagcy (class AAA) Bismarck St. Mary's (class AA) and Bismarck Shiloh Christian (9 man). I don't think so Shiloh has enough kids where they should be bumped up to 11 man. Hey they have more kids then where I'm from the Underwood-Turtle Lake-Mercer-McClusky area combined. And they bumped us up to 11 man. I mean aren't they one of the biggest schools in the western part of the state. I think any 9 man team located in Bismarck and Fargo should not be 9 man. I mean look at Fargo Oak Grove they were 9 man a few years ago and now they just went back 11 man. But i'm not referring to Minot or Williston at all because Minot Ryan is Class A and Tioga and Ray are 9 man. Smaller towns like Underwood, Washburn, Crosby, Napoleon, Linton, Strasburg just to name a few should stay 9 man. I can see Linton jumping to 11 man cause their a bit bigger than Washburn and Underwood. I know some of these smaller towns have enough enrollment to jump to 11 man. All I'm saying any school in a large community like Bismarck should be 11 man.
Run4Fun2009 wrote:
Enrollment numbers used to determine placement is strictly male enrollment in grades 7-10...if that's how the state is going to do it then that's how it goes. If a school wants to opt up that is there choice...but if a school falls in the area that keeps them 9-man then the school should stay in that respective level that their enrollment places them. You can't just make up an exception for a couple towns and have that added in (unless it gets passed by the board somehow). Otherwise, you are going to open the door for the 'unfair' statement to be thrown out by the other side of the argument.
caserace0710 wrote:Trivia Question: Which school that has been playing football continuously since the playoff era began in 1975 has never made the playoffs?Run4Fun2009 wrote:Is trivia answer: Bowman??
Bacon wrote:One thing I do find interesting is when you break down every other school the ratio of boys to girls is close to 50/50. When you look at Shiloh the breakdown is 70/30. With boys being the 30%. Don't know why that is but if their enrollment was even like most every other school they would be 11 man easily. Not saying it's on purpose, just find it interesting.
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