Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

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Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby classB4ever » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:35 pm

Thought it would be interesting to see how the remaining teams did against other regions.

REGION 1:
Oak Grove
Region 1 - 16-1
Region 5 - 1-0
Region 7 - 1-0
MN - 2-3

Enderlin
Region 1 - 10-6
Region 2 - 3-0
Region 3 - 1-2
Region 7 - 0-2

REGION 2:
MPCG
Region 1 - 2-1
Region 2 - 13-5
Region 4 - 1-0
MN - 1-0

Cavalier
Region 2 - 17-2
Region 4 - 1-3

REGION 3:
LLM
Region 1 - 5-1
Region 3 - 11-5
MN - 1-0
SD - 0-1

Oakes
Region 1 - 5-1
Region 3 - 13-3
MN - 0-1
SD - 1-0

REGION 4:
FWM
Region 2 - 2-0
Region 3 - 1-0
Region 4 - 13-0
Region 6 - 2-0
Region 7 - 1-1

North Star
Region 2 - 5-0
Region 3 - 1-0
Region 4 - 11-3
Region 6 - 1-1
Region 8 - 1-0

REGION 5:
Shiloh
Region 1 - 0-1
Region 3 - 2-0
Region 4 - 0-1
Region 5 - 11-1
Region 6 - 2-0
Region 7 - 2-2
Region 8 - 0-1

Solen
Region 3 - 0-1
Region 4 - 1-0
Region 5 - 9-2
Region 7 - 2-0
Region 8 - 1-0


REGION 6:
Rugby
Region 4 - 7-1
Region 6 - 14-0
Region 7 - 0-1

Berthold
Region 5 - 1-0
Region 6 - 13-1
Region 7 - 1-0
Region 8 - 7-0

REGION 7
New England
Region 3 - 1-0
Region 5 - 2-1
Region 7 - 16-1
SD - 2-0

Dickinson Trinity
Region 1 - 0-1
Region 3 - 0-1
Region 4 - 1-0
Region 5 - 0-1
Region 6 - 0-2
Region 7 - 14-2
Region 8 - 1-0

REGION 8
Parshall
Region 4 - 0-1
Region 5 - 1-2
Region 6 - 2-2
Region 8 - 13-2

New Town
Region 4 - 0-1
Region 5 - 2-2
Region 7 - 3-1
Region 8 - 12-2
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby classB4ever » Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:32 pm

Was very surprised to see how many teams schedule games outside of their own region. Definitely a change from football, where you never really know how your region stacks up until the playoffs.
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby HammerTime » Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:05 pm

You can tell which teams like to travel or play away from their region. I think it's funny just how limited Rugby's scope was, especially when you compare it to Berthold's or 4 winds.
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby nolan4 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 4:20 pm

HammerTime wrote:You can tell which teams like to travel or play away from their region. I think it's funny just how limited Rugby's scope was, especially when you compare it to Berthold's or 4 winds.


Not 100% sure what you are saying here, but Rugby did play Beulah, Four Winds, and North Star, I would say that is pretty good schedule, and Berthold played Trinity and Parshall, but nobody else tough outside there region. 4 Winds played a real tough schedule.
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Sat Mar 14, 2015 5:00 pm

I'd say 3 or 4 of the toughest schedules for teams at State are:
Four Winds-Minnewaukan
Oak Grove
Rugby
Shiloh Christian

Rugby was primarily Regions 4 & 6 but solid teams. FW-M, OG & Shiloh expanded their schedules and played teams from across the state (and in OG's case a few solid MN games).
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby HammerTime » Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:54 pm

nolan4 wrote:
HammerTime wrote:You can tell which teams like to travel or play away from their region. I think it's funny just how limited Rugby's scope was, especially when you compare it to Berthold's or 4 winds.


Not 100% sure what you are saying here, but Rugby did play Beulah, Four Winds, and North Star, I would say that is pretty good schedule, and Berthold played Trinity and Parshall, but nobody else tough outside there region. 4 Winds played a real tough schedule.

I'm just saying when you compare it to the other teams in the state that succeed alot, it's just strange how close they like to keep their games.
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby classB4ever » Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:25 pm

The coaches (in myth) got together and decided to use RPI to rank the teams. Final 64 make the tourney. To determine brackets, they count 1,2,3,4 and start over. Following are the matchups for the ND RPI Final 64. Who makes the Final 4? Just a little fun during basketballs greatest week.

Bracket/ Overall Rank/ Seed/ Team/ RPI

1 1 1 Four Winds-Minnewaukan 0.6893
1 5 2 New England 0.6421
1 9 3 Northern Cass 0.631
1 13 4 Hettinger-Scranton 0.6151
1 17 5 Harvey-Wells County 0.5886
1 21 6 May-Port CG 0.5744
1 25 7 Enderlin 0.567
1 29 8 Strasburg-Zeeland 0.5588
1 33 9 Ellendale 0.5517
1 37 10 Surrey 0.5499
1 41 11 Max 0.5226
1 45 12 Watford City 0.5088
1 49 13 Griggs County Central 0.4998
1 53 14 Standing Rock 0.4938
1 57 15 Rolette-Wolford 0.4894
1 61 16 Bottineau 0.4788

2 2 1 Oak Grove 0.6671
2 6 2 North Star 0.6368
2 10 3 Dickinson Trinity 0.6292
2 14 4 Central Cass 0.6102
2 18 5 Oakes 0.5852
2 22 6 Heart River 0.5704
2 26 7 St. John 0.5614
2 30 8 Killdeer 0.5566
2 34 9 Hatton-Northwood 0.5516
2 38 10 Flasher 0.5437
2 42 11 Washburn 0.5208
2 46 12 Drake-Anamoose 0.5085
2 50 13 Glenburn 0.4975
2 54 14 Richardton-Taylor 0.4924
2 58 15 Park River-Fordville-Lankin 0.4878
2 62 16 Milnor 0.4733

3 3 1 Rugby 0.6547
3 7 2 Shiloh Christian 0.6346
3 11 3 Beulah 0.6237
3 15 4 Bishop Ryan 0.5917
3 19 5 Wyndmere-Lidgerwood 0.5815
3 23 6 Cavalier 0.5686
3 27 7 Hillsboro-Central Valley 0.5613
3 31 8 Solen 0.5559
3 35 9 Hankinson 0.5511
3 39 10 Grafton 0.537
3 43 11 Kenmare 0.516
3 47 12 Kindred 0.5058
3 51 13 Larimore 0.4973
3 55 14 Kidder County 0.4923
3 59 15 Garrison 0.4839
3 63 16 Richland 0.471

4 4 1 Berthold 0.6497
4 8 2 Linton-HMB 0.6334
4 12 3 Our Redeemer's 0.6172
4 16 4 Dunseith 0.5891
4 20 5 Parshall 0.5795
4 24 6 New Town 0.5676
4 28 7 Carrington 0.5604
4 32 8 LaMoure-Litchville-Marion 0.5535
4 36 9 Hazen 0.55
4 40 10 Des Lacs-Burlington 0.5365
4 44 11 Dakota Prairie 0.5139
4 48 12 Thompson 0.5027
4 52 13 TGU 0.4944
4 56 14 Benson County 0.4921
4 60 15 Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier 0.4834
4 64 16 Mott-Regent 0.4684
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby ndlionsfan » Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:33 pm

The first region sure looks like the toughest road. I see the #1s in each of the other 3 regions going to the "Final Four". 1-9 make the first region very deep with the potential for upsets. Surprised LLM would be an 8.
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby classB4ever » Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:40 pm

ndlionsfan wrote:The first region sure looks like the toughest road. I see the #1s in each of the other 3 regions going to the "Final Four". 1-9 make the first region very deep with the potential for upsets. Surprised LLM would be an 8.


Yes, theoretically, the brackets would be in order from toughest to easiest just because I went down the line to number them. Should have inverted every other one.
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:07 pm

classB4ever wrote:
ndlionsfan wrote:The first region sure looks like the toughest road. I see the #1s in each of the other 3 regions going to the "Final Four". 1-9 make the first region very deep with the potential for upsets. Surprised LLM would be an 8.


Yes, theoretically, the brackets would be in order from toughest to easiest just because I went down the line to number them. Should have inverted every other one.


Should have snaked it for better balance.

Also a slight note...I believe OG & Hettinger-Scranton's RPI would be better if out-of-state games were included.
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby nolan4 » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:15 pm

classB4ever wrote:The coaches (in myth) got together and decided to use RPI to rank the teams. Final 64 make the tourney. To determine brackets, they count 1,2,3,4 and start over. Following are the matchups for the ND RPI Final 64. Who makes the Final 4? Just a little fun during basketballs greatest week.

Bracket/ Overall Rank/ Seed/ Team/ RPI

1 1 1 Four Winds-Minnewaukan 0.6893
1 5 2 New England 0.6421
1 9 3 Northern Cass 0.631
1 13 4 Hettinger-Scranton 0.6151
1 17 5 Harvey-Wells County 0.5886
1 21 6 May-Port CG 0.5744
1 25 7 Enderlin 0.567
1 29 8 Strasburg-Zeeland 0.5588
1 33 9 Ellendale 0.5517
1 37 10 Surrey 0.5499
1 41 11 Max 0.5226
1 45 12 Watford City 0.5088
1 49 13 Griggs County Central 0.4998
1 53 14 Standing Rock 0.4938
1 57 15 Rolette-Wolford 0.4894
1 61 16 Bottineau 0.4788

2 2 1 Oak Grove 0.6671
2 6 2 North Star 0.6368
2 10 3 Dickinson Trinity 0.6292
2 14 4 Central Cass 0.6102
2 18 5 Oakes 0.5852
2 22 6 Heart River 0.5704
2 26 7 St. John 0.5614
2 30 8 Killdeer 0.5566
2 34 9 Hatton-Northwood 0.5516
2 38 10 Flasher 0.5437
2 42 11 Washburn 0.5208
2 46 12 Drake-Anamoose 0.5085
2 50 13 Glenburn 0.4975
2 54 14 Richardton-Taylor 0.4924
2 58 15 Park River-Fordville-Lankin 0.4878
2 62 16 Milnor 0.4733

3 3 1 Rugby 0.6547
3 7 2 Shiloh Christian 0.6346
3 11 3 Beulah 0.6237
3 15 4 Bishop Ryan 0.5917
3 19 5 Wyndmere-Lidgerwood 0.5815
3 23 6 Cavalier 0.5686
3 27 7 Hillsboro-Central Valley 0.5613
3 31 8 Solen 0.5559
3 35 9 Hankinson 0.5511
3 39 10 Grafton 0.537
3 43 11 Kenmare 0.516
3 47 12 Kindred 0.5058
3 51 13 Larimore 0.4973
3 55 14 Kidder County 0.4923
3 59 15 Garrison 0.4839
3 63 16 Richland 0.471

4 4 1 Berthold 0.6497
4 8 2 Linton-HMB 0.6334
4 12 3 Our Redeemer's 0.6172
4 16 4 Dunseith 0.5891
4 20 5 Parshall 0.5795
4 24 6 New Town 0.5676
4 28 7 Carrington 0.5604
4 32 8 LaMoure-Litchville-Marion 0.5535
4 36 9 Hazen 0.55
4 40 10 Des Lacs-Burlington 0.5365
4 44 11 Dakota Prairie 0.5139
4 48 12 Thompson 0.5027
4 52 13 TGU 0.4944
4 56 14 Benson County 0.4921
4 60 15 Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier 0.4834
4 64 16 Mott-Regent 0.4684


This is the kind of thing, i use to love to do, kind of play my own games in my head LOL :)
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:19 pm

nolan4 wrote:This is the kind of thing, i use to love to do, kind of play my own games in my head LOL :)


I still do things like this too...the 'what if' games when converting into different styles of tourneys is fun.

One year (2013 I believe) a friend and I created a 64-team bracket and set it up similar to an NCAA tournament with sites and stuff. It was to give the possibility for say 2 or 3 teams from one Region to make it to state if they earned it.

We had two options for the Elite Eight.
1. Re-Seed when those teams qualified, or...
2. Play it straight out.
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby nolan4 » Mon Mar 16, 2015 2:44 pm

Run4Fun2009 wrote:
nolan4 wrote:This is the kind of thing, i use to love to do, kind of play my own games in my head LOL :)


I still do things like this too...the 'what if' games when converting into different styles of tourneys is fun.

One year (2013 I believe) a friend and I created a 64-team bracket and set it up similar to an NCAA tournament with sites and stuff. It was to give the possibility for say 2 or 3 teams from one Region to make it to state if they earned it.

We had two options for the Elite Eight.
1. Re-Seed when those teams qualified, or...
2. Play it straight out.

Dang, i am in my 50's and I like that their are people out there like me LOL, I use to do that all the time, even back in the day when there wasnt as much info as now......I probably started doing it in the mid 80's when the Hoopstar starting coming out, and on that note, i have every boys hoopster that has ever been published. Proud to say I am a ND high school (basketball especially) sports nerd :) LOL
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby classB4ever » Mon Mar 23, 2015 1:15 pm

Trying to keep my records straight and need some help. Can anybody verify if the year, team and region are correct on the following list. Fairly sure about the last 10 years or so. Late 90's early 2000's is where I am not sure.

Year at state, Team, Region


1996 Enderlin 1
1996 MPCG 2
1996 Langdon 3
1996 Warwick 4
1996 Shiloh Christian 5
1996 Glenburn 6
1996 Beulah 7
1996 New England 8

1997 Central Cass 1
1997 MPCG 2
1997 Rugby 3
1997 Leeds-Wolford 4
1997 LMM 5
1997 Glenburn 6
1997 Beulah 7
1997 New England/Regent 8

1998 Lisbon 1
1998 MPCG 2
1998 Bottineau 3
1998 Leeds 4
1998 Shiloh Christian 5
1998 Des Lacs/Burlington 6
1998 Beulah 7
1998 Standing Rock 8

1999 Lisbon 1
1999 Hillsboro 2
1999 LMM 3
1999 Leeds 4
1999 Center 5
1999 Bishop Ryan 6
1999 Dickinson Trinity 7
1999 Mandaree 8

2000 Oak Grove 1
2000 Park River 2
2000 LMM 3
2000 Sheyenne/Minnewauken 4
2000 Center 5
2000 Bishop Ryan 6
2000 Scranton 7
2000 Watford City 8

2001 Oak Grove 1
2001 North Border 2
2001 Wilton 3
2001 Cando 4
2001 WTPR 5
2001 Surrey 6
2001 Dickinson Trinity 7
2001 Williston Trinity Christian 8

2002 Kindred 1
2002 MPCG 2
2002 Strasburg 3
2002 Wells County 4
2002 Standing Rock 5
2002 Berthold 6
2002 Dickinson Trinity 7
2002 Mandaree 8

2003 Kindred 1
2003 MPCG 2
2003 Linton 3
2003 New Rockford 4
2003 Shiloh Christian 5
2003 Westhope/Newburg 6
2003 Dickinson Trinity 7
2003 Williston Trinity Christian 8

2004 Milnor 1
2004 Cavalier 2
2004 Linton 3
2004 New Rockford 4
2004 Shiloh Christian 5
2004 Bishop Ryan 6
2004 Dickinson Trinity 7
2004 Trenton 8

2005 Central Cass 1
2005 MPCG 2
2005 Linton 3
2005 New Rockford/Sheyenne 4
2005 Flasher 5
2005 Bottineau 6
2005 Dickinson Trinity 7
2005 Divide County 8

2006 Richland 1
2006 MPCG 2
2006 PBK 3
2006 Four Winds 4
2006 Shiloh Christian 5
2006 Bishop Ryan 6
2006 Dickinson Trinity 7
2006 Parshall 8

2007 Hankinson 1
2007 North Border 2
2007 Barnes County North 3
2007 Four Winds 4
2007 Shiloh Christian 5
2007 Bishop Ryan 6
2007 Dickinson Trinity 7
2007 Parshall 8

2008 Lisbon 1
2008 Grafton 2
2008 Lamoure 3
2008 Four Winds 4
2008 TLM 5
2008 Bishop Ryan 6
2008 Mott/Regent 7
2008 Watford City 8

2009 North Sargent 1
2009 Dakota Prairie 2
2009 Linton 3
2009 North Star 4
2009 TLM 5
2009 Berthold 6
2009 Bowman County 7
2009 Watford City 8

2010 Oak Grove 1
2010 Cavalier 2
2010 Kidder County 3
2010 Carrington 4
2010 Shiloh Christian 5
2010 Berthold 6
2010 Beulah 7
2010 Mandaree 8

2011 Oak Grove 1
2011 Grafton 2
2011 Linton 3
2011 North Star 4
2011 Standing Rock 5
2011 Bishop Ryan 6
2011 Dickinson Trinity 7
2011 New Town 8

2012 Central Cass 1
2012 Grafton 2
2012 Linton 3
2012 North Star 4
2012 Shiloh Christian 5
2012 Berthold 6
2012 Beulah 7
2012 Divide County 8

2013 Milnor 1
2013 Cavalier 2
2013 Lamoure/Litchville/Marion 3
2013 Four Winds/Minn 4
2013 Shiloh Christian 5
2013 Rugby 6
2013 Dickinson Trinity 7
2013 Trenton 8

2014 Oak Grove 1
2014 Cavalier 2
2014 Linton 3
2014 North Star 4
2014 Flasher 5
2014 Rugby 6
2014 Beulah 7
2014 New Town 8

2015 Oak Grove 1
2015 MPCG 2
2015 Lamoure/Litchville/Marion 3
2015 Four Winds/Minn 4
2015 Shiloh Christian 5
2015 Rugby 6
2015 New England 7
2015 Parshall 8
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby ndlionsfan » Mon Mar 23, 2015 1:19 pm

Region 4 looks good. Only thing is that I believe in 2005 it was the first year of New Rockford-Sheyenne's consolidation.
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby HammerTime » Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:48 pm

2004 to 2012 Berthold and Bishop Ryan made every appearence from region 6 except 1. Maybe that's why people don't hate Rugby that much.
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby classB4ever » Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:06 pm

Thought I would put this here if anybody wants some reference for the other hot topic going on. I know not every enrollment number is exact, but they should be pretty close for reference sake. Didn't want to clutter up the other topic. Only did it for the last 15 years.

State Appearances:
Team - Year Enrollment Region

Fargo Oak Grove - 1 166 1
Kindred - 2 214 1
Kindred - 3 214 1
Milnor - 4 85 1
Central Cass - 5 279 1
Richland - 6 90 1
Hankinson - 7 93 1
Lisbon - 8 202 1
North Sargeant - 9 75 1
Fargo Oak Grove - 10 166 1
Fargo Oak Grove - 11 166 1
Central Cass - 12 279 1
Milnor - 13 85 1
Fargo Oak Grove - 14 166 1
Fargo Oak Grove - 15 166 1

North Border - 1 149 2
MPCG - 2 175 2
MPCG - 3 175 2
Cavalier - 4 128 2
MPCG - 5 175 2
MPCG - 6 175 2
North Border - 7 149 2
Grafton - 8 273 2
Dakota Prairie - 9 102 2
Cavalier - 10 128 2
Grafton - 11 273 2
Grafton - 12 273 2
Cavalier - 13 128 2
Cavalier - 14 128 2
MPCG - 15 154 2

Wilton-1 75 3
Strasburg - 2 74 3
Linton - 3 102 3
Linton - 4 102 3
Linton - 5 102 3
Pingree Buchanan Kensall - 6 73 3
Barnes County North - 7 94 3
LaMoure - 8 102 3
Linton HMB - 9 102 3
Kidder County - 10 139 3
Linton HMB - 11 116 3
Linton HMB - 12 110 3
LaMoure/Litchville-Marion - 13 102 3
Linton HMB - 14 116 3
LaMoure/Litchville-Marion - 15 114 3

Cando - 1 87 4
Wells County - 2 56 4
New Rockford - 3 118 4
New Rockford - 4 115 4
New Rockford/Sheyenne - 5 140 4
Four Winds - 6 157 4
Four Winds - 7 166 4
Four Winds - 8 175 4
North Star - 9 84 4
Carrington - 10 197 4
North Star - 11 84 4
North Star - 12 85 4
Four Winds/Minnewauken - 13 206 4
North Star - 14 83 4
Four Winds/Minnewauken - 15 210 4

Wing Tuttle Pettibone R - 1 105 5
Standing Rock -2 232 5
Shiloh Christian - 3 91 5
Shiloh Christian - 4 91 5
Standing Rock - 5 232 5
Shiloh Christian - 6 91 5
Shiloh Christion - 7 91 5
Turtle Lake Mercer - 8 88 5
Turtle Lake Mercer - 9 88 5
Shiloh Christion - 10 91 5
Standing Rock - 11 232 5
Shiloh Christion - 12 91 5
Shiloh Christian - 13 91 5
Flasher - 14 82 5
Shiloh Christian - 15 91 5

Surrey - 1 124 6
Berthold - 2 82 6
Westhope Newburg - 3 71 6
Minot Ryan - 4 156 6
Bottineau - 5 244 6
Minot Ryan - 6 156 6
Minot Ryan - 7 156 6
Minot Ryan - 8 156 6
Berthold - 9 82 6
Berthold - 10 82 6
Minot Ryan - 11 156 6
Berthold - 12 82 6
Rugby - 13 192 6
Rugby - 14 186 6
Rugby - 15 186 6

Dickinson Trinity - 1 160 7
Dickinson Trinity - 2 160 7
Dickinson Trinity - 3 160 7
Dickinson Trinity - 4 160 7
Dickinson Trinity - 5 160 7
Dickinson Trinity - 6 160 7
Dickinson Trinity - 7 160 7
Mott-Regent - 8 83 7
Bowman County - 9 127 7
Beulah - 10 247 7
Dickinson Trinity - 11 160 7
Beulah - 12 247 7
Dickinson Trinity - 13 160 7
Beulah - 14 208 7
New England - 15 69 7

Williston Trinity Christian - 1 41 8
Mandaree - 2 43 8
Williston Trinity Christian - 3 50 8
Trenton - 4 63 8
Divide County - 5 87 8
Parshall - 6 90 8
Parshall - 7 90 8
Watford City - 8 192 8
Watford City - 9 192 8
Mandaree - 10 43 8
New Town - 11 216 8
Divide County - 12 89 8
Trenton - 13 63 8
New Town - 14 223 8
Parshall - 15 83 8
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby ndlionsfan » Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:15 pm

Why have none of the private school enrollments changed in the last 15 years? Don't have any hidden meaning behind my question, just curious as a lot of the other schools have some change listed over the years.

Also, I'm assuming Lisbon is 202 and not 102 and Williston Trinity is 50 the 2nd time and not 150?

Using 150 enrollment as a cutoff for "big" Bs, 52 of the 90 (58%) of the qualifiers would fall in this category in the last 15 years. That includes region 3 which had none, and don't know if they would even have had any schools in the region over 150 enrollment in these years. That would change now with Oakes and Carrington in their region.
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby classB4ever » Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:17 pm

Never listed in the public enrollment documents that I have used over the years. Wasn't trying to hide anything, just had problems finding them over the years, so put in the only numbers I could find, usually from this site.
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby ndlionsfan » Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:20 pm

classB4ever wrote:Never listed in the public enrollment documents that I have used over the years. Wasn't trying to hide anything, just had problems finding them over the years, so put in the only numbers I could find, usually from this site.


Got ya, I thought maybe you were taking the enrollment from the state tournament programs over the years.
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby classB4ever » Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:22 pm

ndlionsfan wrote:Why have none of the private school enrollments changed in the last 15 years? Don't have any hidden meaning behind my question, just curious as a lot of the other schools have some change listed over the years.

Also, I'm assuming Lisbon is 202 and not 102 and Williston Trinity is 50 the 2nd time and not 150?

Using 150 enrollment as a cutoff for "big" Bs, 52 of the 90 (58%) of the qualifiers would fall in this category in the last 15 years.


Ran thosese numbers last year. Some things have changed, but in essence:

Big B's were estimated at 174+. They made up 24% and attended state @ 28% rate.
Private/Parochial made up 6% of schools and attended @ 26% rate.
Rest made up about 70% and attended at 46%.

The demographics for the state B are fairly predictable. Of the 8 regions, 3 of them do not really have a big school (3, 4, 8 ). Carrington (1st year in 3) is largest at 170. Four Winds/Minn. in 4 at 210. New Town in 8 at 196. That means there is generally going to be a minimum of 38% small schools every year. Of the remaining 5 regions, one small school is generally going to represent one of those regions, bringing the total to 50%. Of the remaining 4 regions, chances are 2 bigger schools and 2 parochial schools will be representing.
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby leroybla » Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:53 pm

It would be interesting to know how many kids in each district are open-enrolled from another district. Not all districts offer open enrollment and some that do severely restrict eligibility.
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby stir the pot » Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:57 pm

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classB4ever wrote:The coaches (in myth) got together and decided to use RPI to rank the teams. Final 64 make the tourney. To determine brackets, they count 1,2,3,4 and start over. Following are the matchups for the ND RPI Final 64. Who makes the Final 4? Just a little fun during basketballs greatest week.

Bracket/ Overall Rank/ Seed/ Team/ RPI

1 1 1 Four Winds-Minnewaukan 0.6893
1 5 2 New England 0.6421
1 9 3 Northern Cass 0.631
1 13 4 Hettinger-Scranton 0.6151
1 17 5 Harvey-Wells County 0.5886
1 21 6 May-Port CG 0.5744
1 25 7 Enderlin 0.567
1 29 8 Strasburg-Zeeland 0.5588
1 33 9 Ellendale 0.5517
1 37 10 Surrey 0.5499
1 41 11 Max 0.5226
1 45 12 Watford City 0.5088
1 49 13 Griggs County Central 0.4998
1 53 14 Standing Rock 0.4938
1 57 15 Rolette-Wolford 0.4894
1 61 16 Bottineau 0.4788

2 2 1 Oak Grove 0.6671
2 6 2 North Star 0.6368
2 10 3 Dickinson Trinity 0.6292
2 14 4 Central Cass 0.6102
2 18 5 Oakes 0.5852
2 22 6 Heart River 0.5704
2 26 7 St. John 0.5614
2 30 8 Killdeer 0.5566
2 34 9 Hatton-Northwood 0.5516
2 38 10 Flasher 0.5437
2 42 11 Washburn 0.5208
2 46 12 Drake-Anamoose 0.5085
2 50 13 Glenburn 0.4975
2 54 14 Richardton-Taylor 0.4924
2 58 15 Park River-Fordville-Lankin 0.4878
2 62 16 Milnor 0.4733

3 3 1 Rugby 0.6547
3 7 2 Shiloh Christian 0.6346
3 11 3 Beulah 0.6237
3 15 4 Bishop Ryan 0.5917
3 19 5 Wyndmere-Lidgerwood 0.5815
3 23 6 Cavalier 0.5686
3 27 7 Hillsboro-Central Valley 0.5613
3 31 8 Solen 0.5559
3 35 9 Hankinson 0.5511
3 39 10 Grafton 0.537
3 43 11 Kenmare 0.516
3 47 12 Kindred 0.5058
3 51 13 Larimore 0.4973
3 55 14 Kidder County 0.4923
3 59 15 Garrison 0.4839
3 63 16 Richland 0.471

4 4 1 Berthold 0.6497
4 8 2 Linton-HMB 0.6334
4 12 3 Our Redeemer's 0.6172
4 16 4 Dunseith 0.5891
4 20 5 Parshall 0.5795
4 24 6 New Town 0.5676
4 28 7 Carrington 0.5604
4 32 8 LaMoure-Litchville-Marion 0.5535
4 36 9 Hazen 0.55
4 40 10 Des Lacs-Burlington 0.5365
4 44 11 Dakota Prairie 0.5139
4 48 12 Thompson 0.5027
4 52 13 TGU 0.4944
4 56 14 Benson County 0.4921
4 60 15 Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier 0.4834
4 64 16 Mott-Regent 0.4684


This is the kind of thing, i use to love to do, kind of play my own games in my head LOL :)


So would the bottom 42 ,43 or what ever teams have their own tournament some what like the NIT (the third class ) the best of the worst. Or just #@%! them they didn't win enough games to make the Big Dance.
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby Indy5 » Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:40 pm

ndlionsfan wrote:Why have none of the private school enrollments changed in the last 15 years? Don't have any hidden meaning behind my question, just curious as a lot of the other schools have some change listed over the years.


Speaking for Bishop Ryan, I would guess the 04 days the enrollment was around the 200ish mark. Nowadays, it's around 130ish. So, that gives you an idea where they were throughout those 15 years on each respective appearance.
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Re: Remaining Teams - Records vs. other Regions

Postby classB4ever » Tue Mar 24, 2015 1:14 pm

Here are this year's 106 teams, separated first by region and then by school enrollment. If anybody is interested in seeing them listed in any other type of order, I can put that information on here as well.

Central Cass 1 213
Lisbon 1 210
Kindred 1 193
Northern Cass 1 163
Fargo Oak Grove 1 160
Wyndmere-Lidgerwood 1 114
Enderlin 1 109
Richland 1 91
Maple Valley 1 84
Hankinson 1 80
Milnor 1 73
North Sargent 1 70
Sargent Central 1 59
Fairmount-Campbell-Tintah 1 31

Grafton 2 260
Hillsboro-Central Valley 2 213
Hatton-Northwood 2 179
Park River-Fordville-Lankin 2 160
Larimore 2 157
May-Port CG 2 154
Midway-Minto 2 130
Thompson 2 128
Cavalier 2 115
North Border 2 113
Drayton-Valley-Edinburg 2 104
Finley-Sharon-Hope-Page 2 103
Griggs County Central 2 80

Carrington 3 170
Oakes 3 137
Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier 3 118
Linton-HMB 3 116
Kidder County 3 115
Napoleon-Gackle-Streeter 3 115
LaMoure-Litchville-Marion 3 114
South Border (Wishek/Ashley) 3 99
Medina-Pingree-Buchanan 3 99
Ellendale 3 96
Barnes County North 3 80
Strasburg-Zeeland 3 66
Midkota-Kensal 3 44

Four Winds-Minnewaukan 4 210
Dunseith 4 144
Langdon 4 136
Harvey-Wells County 4 129
St. John 4 112
Lakota-Edmore 4 101
Benson County (Leeds/Maddock) 4 99
New Rockford-Sheyenne 4 96
Rolla 4 89
North Star 4 84
Dakota Prairie 4 66
Rolette-Wolford 4 60
Warwick 4 56

Standing Rock 5 133
Garrison 5 127
Wilton-Wing 5 109
Bismarck Shiloh Christian 5 105
New Salem-Almont 5 96
Flasher 5 82
Turtle Lake-Mercer-McClusky 5 81
Washburn 5 78
Underwood 5 69
Max 5 66
Grant County 5 62
Center-Stanton 5 58
Solen 5 39

Bottineau 6 189
Rugby 6 186
Des Lacs-Burlington 6 163
Surrey 6 135
Berthold 6 119
Velva 6 107
TGU 6 101
Minot Bishop Ryan 6 91
Glenburn 6 88
Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood 6 85
Drake-Anamoose 6 62
Westhope-Newburg 6 61
Minot Our Redeemer's 6 43
Sawyer 6 40

Beulah 7 208
Hazen 7 176
Dickinson Trinity 7 173
Heart River (Belfield/South Heart) 7 166
Killdeer 7 143
Bowman County 7 128
Hettinger-Scranton 7 118
Beach 7 109
Glen Ullin-Hebron 7 99
Richardton-Taylor 7 83
Mott-Regent 7 77
New England 7 69
Mandaree 7 44

New Town 8 196
Watford City 8 193
Stanley 8 174
Tioga 8 122
WillistonTrinity Christian-Trenton 8 96
Kenmare 8 89
Divide County 8 89
Parshall 8 83
Ray 8 82
Burke County 8 57
White Shield 8 51
North Shore-Plaza 8 39
Powers Lake 8 35
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