radball wrote:balla45 abviously don't get what "leader/leadership" means in bball players. Again how good did Freije play when she had to play against a good defense in Thompson? just wondering.
east sider wrote:Yeah for the sake of this thread let's just agree to disagree, even though I know what you're saying.
I'm really looking forward to watching Nudell play as I haven't seen her in person yet. Any other players in Region 1 that can go toe-to-toe with her?
Flying Wallenda wrote:radball wrote:balla45 abviously don't get what "leader/leadership" means in bball players. Again how good did Freije play when she had to play against a good defense in Thompson? just wondering.
Good grief. Freije put 45 on Ryan in the regular season. They played good defense. She also lead that team in steals, rebounds, assists, and blocks. She's taken her team to two states and a region runner up. Cause she didn't score a pile against your favorite Tommie means she's not a player? Get a clue.
balla45 wrote:My entire point here was simply this.
I do not think a player can make others better. A player can completely alter the way a defense has to defend, but that player isn't better.
Real life example. If I am playing basketball at the Y with Kevin Rice on my team, everything is easier for me because he draws all of the attention. He didn't make me better as far as my ability to pass, shoot, defend, etc., but he does draw all of the defensive attention. We simply have different opinions on what "making others better" is.
I still don't think it is difficult to identify a stud.
Of all people, Radball, as a D1 scout, should not struggle with this.
balla45 wrote:east sider wrote:Yeah for the sake of this thread let's just agree to disagree, even though I know what you're saying.
I'm really looking forward to watching Nudell play as I haven't seen her in person yet. Any other players in Region 1 that can go toe-to-toe with her?
Have heard good things about Asp but haven't watched enough. Kaehler is getting D2 and low major D1 looks. Pretty solid on the block defensively.
layup wrote:Also there have been teams loaded with talent that do not win
layup wrote:So in a sense a superstar can make the other players better as a whole or unit (but not individually better)
east sider wrote:Disagree with college BB determining how good they are. I usually go with the combo of stats and the eye test, then compare to great players from the past. There are players in every sport that dominate at the HS level but not college level, just like they can dominate the college level but not the pros. I feel like nothing should be taken away from you if you don't pan out at the next level.
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