digger wrote:No idea what, if anything is going on with the players. I don't agree with your take on the local talent angle. I love North Dakota high school hoops however there just isn't enough local talent to make Minot State or Mary competitive in the NSIC. There will be a few ND kids on the rosters but if a coach tried to build a program with ND kids, he wouldn't be coaching very long. I think there might be 3-4 kids going to NSIC schools (Weisbeck, Kretchman, Rudolph, ?) next season, I hope they have success.
Minot and Mary are going to have their work cut out for them in the NSIC. The successful programs have their recruiting bases set; Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, South Dakota, connections in the JC and D-I world for transfers. Tough to get a really good player away from Winona, Mankato, Augie, MSUM, SW MN State, Northern, St. Cloud, to come to Minot.
Sportsrube wrote:I think the biggest difference for Northern is the talent level of the locals that they have managed to recruit (and seem to recruit every year). They get some of the better players from SD and they play major minutes for them. Hopefully Minot can do the same, I would love to see the Beavers be competitive in the NSIC and I would love to see the FB program get competitive in the NSIC also.
go maji wrote:I hate to say it, but South Dakota high schools are up another level, athletic wise.
go maji wrote:I don't know if Northern is a good example. Because Northern has 6 locals and Minot has 4. Not that big of a difference. All the local players are basically role players. Not to be biased or anything, but 3 of them are class "B" players. Minot state could have done a better job in recruiting IMO. I think MSU should have contacted Kretchmen, Wiesbeck, Sparks, whoever (this year). Players who are maybe used to up-tempo pace of D II. But I am very optimistic about the Tyler Rydolph commit. And the Belcourt kid.
By the way, if we're talking about locals, Mary only has 1.
Hinsa wrote:I disagree with the thought that SD has less colleges than ND. Here's a list of 4-year SD schools:
Northern State
SDSU
USD
Sioux Falls
Augustana
Presentation
Mount Marty
Dakota State
Dakota Weslyan
Black Hills State
School of Mines
That's 11. There are more but I believe these are the ones that participate in intercollegiate athletics.
ND Has:
UND
NDSU
Mayville
Valley City
Jamestown
Trinity
Mary
Dickinson
Minot State
3 large jucos: Lake Region and NDSCS and Williston
That's 12 if you include those jucos. So with those numbers the point about more schools and the effect it might have on recruiting is moot.
Hinsa wrote:I completely whiffed on BSC, totally forgot them. Thanks for reminding me ndlionsfan. Still, I think these totals refute the idea that SD has a recruiting advantage because they have fewer schools. SD has a ton of jucos as well.
I agree. Better basketball at the A level. 3 classes just makes for better overall basketball. Wake up ND.go maji wrote:Sportsrube wrote:I think the biggest difference for Northern is the talent level of the locals that they have managed to recruit (and seem to recruit every year). They get some of the better players from SD and they play major minutes for them. Hopefully Minot can do the same, I would love to see the Beavers be competitive in the NSIC and I would love to see the FB program get competitive in the NSIC also.
I hate to say it, but South Dakota high schools are up another level, athletic wise.
When it come to college basketball, South dakota players go to SDST, USD, or NSU. But North Dakota players like to skip town (so to speak).
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