baseball18 wrote:If people want to smoke, let them smoke. If ppl can't smoke in their homes, where the heck else will they be allowed to smoke? This is ridiculous... smoking bans infringe on ppl's rights and I thought AMerica was all about freedom of choice.
baseball18 wrote:If people want to smoke, let them smoke. If ppl can't smoke in their homes, where the heck else will they be allowed to smoke? This is ridiculous... smoking bans infringe on ppl's rights and I thought AMerica was all about freedom of choice.
balla45 wrote:baseball18 wrote:If people want to smoke, let them smoke. If ppl can't smoke in their homes, where the heck else will they be allowed to smoke? This is ridiculous... smoking bans infringe on ppl's rights and I thought AMerica was all about freedom of choice.
So are you saying that I should be forced to breathe in smoke because my parents choose to do so? Doesn't that infringe upon my right to try to stay healthy?
HeisAlive wrote:balla45 wrote:baseball18 wrote:If people want to smoke, let them smoke. If ppl can't smoke in their homes, where the heck else will they be allowed to smoke? This is ridiculous... smoking bans infringe on ppl's rights and I thought AMerica was all about freedom of choice.
So are you saying that I should be forced to breathe in smoke because my parents choose to do so? Doesn't that infringe upon my right to try to stay healthy?
You go Balla45, you go boy...
balla45 wrote:HeisAlive wrote:balla45 wrote:baseball18 wrote:If people want to smoke, let them smoke. If ppl can't smoke in their homes, where the heck else will they be allowed to smoke? This is ridiculous... smoking bans infringe on ppl's rights and I thought AMerica was all about freedom of choice.
So are you saying that I should be forced to breathe in smoke because my parents choose to do so? Doesn't that infringe upon my right to try to stay healthy?
You go Balla45, you go boy...
Haha, some things bother me, but that is probably the number 1 thing.
balla45 wrote:baseball18 wrote:If people want to smoke, let them smoke. If ppl can't smoke in their homes, where the heck else will they be allowed to smoke? This is ridiculous... smoking bans infringe on ppl's rights and I thought AMerica was all about freedom of choice.
So are you saying that I should be forced to breathe in smoke because my parents choose to do so? Doesn't that infringe upon my right to try to stay healthy?
baseball18 wrote:balla45 wrote:baseball18 wrote:If people want to smoke, let them smoke. If ppl can't smoke in their homes, where the heck else will they be allowed to smoke? This is ridiculous... smoking bans infringe on ppl's rights and I thought AMerica was all about freedom of choice.
So are you saying that I should be forced to breathe in smoke because my parents choose to do so? Doesn't that infringe upon my right to try to stay healthy?
This is where personal responsibility comes into place. I do not believe in lawmakers banning smoking for those in their own homes, even with children. If I was a smoker and had children, yes I would not harm my children in any way, I could easily step outside for a smoke. That's your responsibility as a parent, to protect your children, but there should be no law banning this... it would be wrong. If parents smoke in their homes or car with their children around, then I consider that irresponsible parenting... but no law banning it. See where I am coming from?
Iam pretty sure that I saw some where that cell phones cause more death than smoking or second hand smoking, what will they do next? Ban cell phones? I'm putting my children in just as much of danger driving and talking on my cell phone with my kids in the car.
I think once people don't have to pay for their own homes and the federal gov't does that, then they can tell me I can't smoke in my home.
balla45 wrote:baseball18 wrote:balla45 wrote:baseball18 wrote:If people want to smoke, let them smoke. If ppl can't smoke in their homes, where the heck else will they be allowed to smoke? This is ridiculous... smoking bans infringe on ppl's rights and I thought AMerica was all about freedom of choice.
So are you saying that I should be forced to breathe in smoke because my parents choose to do so? Doesn't that infringe upon my right to try to stay healthy?
This is where personal responsibility comes into place. I do not believe in lawmakers banning smoking for those in their own homes, even with children. If I was a smoker and had children, yes I would not harm my children in any way, I could easily step outside for a smoke. That's your responsibility as a parent, to protect your children, but there should be no law banning this... it would be wrong. If parents smoke in their homes or car with their children around, then I consider that irresponsible parenting... but no law banning it. See where I am coming from?
Iam pretty sure that I saw some where that cell phones cause more death than smoking or second hand smoking, what will they do next? Ban cell phones? I'm putting my children in just as much of danger driving and talking on my cell phone with my kids in the car.
I think once people don't have to pay for their own homes and the federal gov't does that, then they can tell me I can't smoke in my home.
To an extent. But, it isn't just irresponsible parenting, it is neglect/abuse. It is proven that second hand smoke can kill. At the very least, it will harm the lungs in some way.
I wouldn't say it is irresponsible to drive while talking on the phone. The chance of it harming the child isn't 100%, but it is 100% when you smoke around them for 18 years.
baseball18 wrote:what about parents taking their kids to fast food restaurants? It's been proven that clogged arteries can kill too. Is that not child abuse? I dont see how it is any different. How about driving too fast or recklously? Depending on who's eyes your looking through, it could ALL be considered child endangerment. One of the above instances could kill a child just as dead as another and someone smoking with kids.
I also think it's terrible I have to breath in car exhaust, when I'm behind someone at a red light, because they don't maintain their car.
I think its terrible that everything we eat and drink is filled with chemicals and pesticides. Not to mention the water supply in some places is filled with prescription drugs.
The thing is, there are so many things that we could call child abuse... why just single out one... when we could cover them all? Anything can be called child abuse now days.
balla45 wrote:baseball18 wrote:If people want to smoke, let them smoke. If ppl can't smoke in their homes, where the heck else will they be allowed to smoke? This is ridiculous... smoking bans infringe on ppl's rights and I thought AMerica was all about freedom of choice.
So are you saying that I should be forced to breathe in smoke because my parents choose to do so? Doesn't that infringe upon my right to try to stay healthy?
Saucesauer wrote:balla45 wrote:baseball18 wrote:If people want to smoke, let them smoke. If ppl can't smoke in their homes, where the heck else will they be allowed to smoke? This is ridiculous... smoking bans infringe on ppl's rights and I thought AMerica was all about freedom of choice.
So are you saying that I should be forced to breathe in smoke because my parents choose to do so? Doesn't that infringe upon my right to try to stay healthy?
Do you pay rent is it YOUR house o ris it your parents house, your trying to tell me you dont do anything that could kill you...spare me That infringes on the Bill of Rights
Saucesauer wrote:Thats cute my last post was deleted, considering it was a hypothetical question i was proving a point, thanks moderators!
balla45 wrote:All right, I read your question now. If someone wants to drink, they should have the right to, because they are harming themselves, and that is their choice. However, a person doesn't get to pick whether or not their parents smoke, and thus, they don't have the choice.
I argued this with stuff like drugs before too. I think that a person has the right to harm him or herself (alcoholic), but I don't think that a person has the right to harm others (smoker.)
I honestly think it is a win for health and a loss of rights. I also think restaurants should be able to allow smoking. People have the CHOICE to go to a restaurant. However, a person doesn't have the CHOICE to pick whether or not their parents smoke. If I want to go to a restaurant where smoking is allowed, I am taking that risk, and it is my decision, and I should have to lve with the consequences. But, I shouldn't have to be exposed to smoke in my home.
yakama wrote:NO----if you want to make your children suffer go ahead its all your fault
Saucesauer wrote:yakama wrote:NO----if you want to make your children suffer go ahead its all your fault
It's your RIGHT, not fault
Saucesauer wrote:yakama wrote:NO----if you want to make your children suffer go ahead its all your fault
It's your RIGHT, not fault
NDSportsFan wrote:Saucesauer wrote:yakama wrote:NO----if you want to make your children suffer go ahead its all your fault
It's your RIGHT, not fault
Do the children have a right to breathe clean air?
balla45 wrote:Were you being facetious? The "exact day" a person turns 21? Really?
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