u would have to get some players from the east to comment on that i personally dont know any pitchers from the east.. also i dont get how people say borr is lucky i mean he doesnt throw that hard but he they cant hit it there is nothin wrong wit that.. if being the best pitchers matters on how hard u throw then ur statement makes since.. he beat minot only givin up 1 run a lead off homer ..beat st marys giving up 2 hits..beat williston in the wda tournment(very important game doesnt fold under pressure qualified mandan for state) but i mean he just gets lucky all the time thats allWilly wrote:The original question was looking for the next top 3 in the state. Are all the best pitchers in the west?
Saucesauer wrote:there are a couple of things i cant seem to figure out how come no one is saying bollinger he is one heck of a pitcher the kid can flat out throw the ball by you before you know what is going on and as a lefty that just makes him harder to face
borr is a deceent pitcher but when you look at the overview of it all put a couple of these thoughts in you head borr vs loomis when you look at mandans lineup of course borr wins smchs has a solid 1and 3 hitter and that is about it somtimes others step up while mandan has a pretty solid 1-7 and 9 hitters they will all hit so thats helps him the reason i think borr beat minot is because they are all a bunch of co*** and were too over confident and most of them can only hit kids who throw over 60 mph so they couldnt slow their bats up enough to hit him.
and will someone please tell me what schroder did this year that everyone thinks he is such a outstandng pitcher because he didnt show me this year
in my opinion top 3 looks like this unless someone can make a legitimate case otherwise and dont just say because so and so beat him when it was the pitchers offense and defense doing all the work
1Wentz 5 pitches while most only have 3 if they are lucky
2Loomis Hard accurate nasty curve and knuck
3Bollinger Lefty Hard accurate ??curve does he have one??
I think u need to worry about your own team instead of worry about minot they all play hard and r good sports i have no idea what u r talking about they take 1st in the west like every year.. ur team is the one bitchin at the umps and throwing ur helmets and swearing infront of a big crowd at the state tournment n the game was for 7th placeSaucesauer wrote:if you would notice most of the kids listed are returning hence i did returners and as for minot i dont know how to say this but its like the coaches have to bribe the kids to play they would all walk out if the coach made them mad but your obviously from minot so it dosnt matter i also say this because the year minot won state 2005 that good player i think gudmonson wouldnt even shake our coaches hand and that is rediculuse and who comming back next year in the west would you put above wentz?
I KNOW THIS STATEMENT IS GOING TO SPARK SOME CONTROVERSY AND PEOPLE ARE GUNNA YELL AT ME AND TRY AND MAKE ME FEEL LIKE AN IDIOT BUT THESE ARE MY OPINIONS BUT LETS HEAR IT
Saucesauer wrote:if you would notice most of the kids listed are returning hence i did returners and as for minot i dont know how to say this but its like the coaches have to bribe the kids to play they would all walk out if the coach made them mad but your obviously from minot so it dosnt matter i also say this because the year minot won state 2005 that good player i think gudmonson wouldnt even shake our coaches hand and that is rediculuse and who comming back next year in the west would you put above wentz?
I KNOW THIS STATEMENT IS GOING TO SPARK SOME CONTROVERSY AND PEOPLE ARE GUNNA YELL AT ME AND TRY AND MAKE ME FEEL LIKE AN IDIOT BUT THESE ARE MY OPINIONS BUT LETS HEAR IT
NODAKsportsFAN wrote:your right, i personally dont think quale's that great either. but still...he finds ways to beat teams and thats what counts.
ndplayer wrote:NODAKsportsFAN wrote:your right, i personally dont think quale's that great either. but still...he finds ways to beat teams and thats what counts.
I don't really know if he "finds a way to win." It's not that tough to win when your team scores 15 runs a game.
Saucesauer wrote:i will agree with you but a couple things i question
1 if you lay off the high stuff you should beat quale he cant overpower you unless its high heat
2 what is it with schroder did i not see dickinson at all this year i swear he had like a 4.00 era he sure didnt suprise me this year or did i miss somthing??
Neither Ebert or Landry are playing anymore. Maybe neither should be in this discussion unless we are talking about past ND pitchers. Then a few other names should be in the mix, like Helling and Marsden.
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