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Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:29 pm
by Run4Fun2009
ndtaterman wrote:#3MPB 50 #2LEM 20


#3 LaMoure-LM is also handling North Star 42-15 at the half right now...R3 is TOUGH!

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:34 pm
by vbfan90
Did Langdon have a bad day? Have girls out/sick? Or did MPB really hand it to them? I understand MPB and region 3 is pretty tough, but was not expecting that blowout.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 1:40 am
by ndtaterman
Was at the game. They handed it to them. Inside game of MPB was unstoppable. No answer for the 3 bigs. Held Ronnigen to Zero Points

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:45 am
by lennylive
I find it hilarious that some teams get ranked so high in the polls until they finally play a VERY good team and get Trounced.... I think MPB should be #1 ..shoulda been after they beat LLM and EKM back to back on a neutral court and away(EKM)....But I don't think it would matter to them what place they are ranked...they are on a mission. The same bunch of girls who lost to LLM in volleyball want redemption to prove they are Athletes that are a force to be reckoned with.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:34 pm
by B-oldtimer
The fact is this is only one of these teams reaches the state tournament. When you have region like this it makes these teams much better because they have much better level of talent to play against. Langdon/Edmore/Munich has played some outside their region playing Thompson, Grafton, Carrington, Kidder county but they have not had to play like these teams from region 3 have been playing. Region 4 is not what it has been in the past if you take the Lakota/Edmore, North Star, Harvey, Rolla, Benson County and Rolette teams from 3 to 4 years ago Langdon/Edmore/Munich would compete with them but I would say they would have hard time reaching final four of the region in those years. That's my opinion and another thing is the strength of this team is still young with Ronnigen, Freije, Sherr , and Crockett all being Sophomores or younger. They are still learning to win on regular basis which is learning curve. But like I stated I think overall girls basketball is down over the state with the exception of Region 3 where you may have at least 3 of the top teams in the state right now. The thing here is only one of these teams will get to state.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 4:09 pm
by sportsfan111
lennylive wrote:I find it hilarious that some teams get ranked so high in the polls until they finally play a VERY good team and get Trounced.... I think MPB should be #1 ..shoulda been after they beat LLM and EKM back to back on a neutral court and away(EKM)....But I don't think it would matter to them what place they are ranked...they are on a mission. The same bunch of girls who lost to LLM in volleyball want redemption to prove they are Athletes that are a force to be reckoned with.


I get what you are saying about teams being ranked because they do not play tough competition. However, Langdon did beat Carrington, who took beat MPB without one of their best players playing. I thought the same about Lamoure- they were about 9-1 which looked impressive but they had not played anyone tough except MPB- but then they beat EKM. It is very hard to compare teams until they actually play. Region 3 is going to be interesting because every team plays a different game. MPB has trouble with Carrington but kicks Lamoure, EKM beats Carrington but loses to MPB and Lamoure, any of these four teams has a chance to make it out of the region, and any one of them could get upset by Kidder County.

I have seen Langdon play two times and I don't think they are better than any of the top 5 in region 3, I will leave it at that. Carrington played the worst I have seen a Carrington team play in the past 4 years and still had a chance to win.

Anyone have any insight on Bismarck? Are they as good as their record shows?

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:01 pm
by airmail
sportsfan111 wrote:Anyone have any insight on Bismarck? Are they as good as their record shows?


I haven't seen them personally, but they beat Four Winds by 6 and Rugby by 1. Other than that, it doesn't look like they have too many challenges on their schedule.

I was surprised to see that their SOS is ranked so high on https://classbbasketball.com/. I just don't see it, but don't have a lot of knowledge of those teams either, I guess.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:04 pm
by airmail
This is kind of interesting too - taken from the same website:

Girls Region Strength Based on RPI
Region 1 .4733
Region 2 .5215
Region 3 .5336
Region 4 .4774
Region 5 .4990
Region 6 .4975
Region 7 .5287
Region 8 .4624

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 10:59 pm
by Run4Fun2009
EIGHTH POLL
Monday, January 22nd

1. Shiloh Christian (15) 14-0 176
2. Medina/Pingree-Buchanan (3) 13-2 152
3. LaMoure-LM 14-1 151
4. Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier 12-2 116
5. Langdon/Edmore/Munich 12-2 97
6. Carrington 11-3 81
7. Rugby 12-2 67
8. Des Lacs-Burlington 14-1 65
9. Trenton 10-1 32
10. Thompson 11-3 28
Others Receiving Votes: Four Winds-Minnewaukan (11-4), Kidder County (11-3), Kindred (10-3), Grafton (11-4), Grant County (10-4), Hillsboro-Central Valley (10-3), Killdeer (10-4), Underwood (13-3).

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 10:05 am
by Sportsrube
LaMoure beat Carrington in Carrington by 7 last night. LaMoure should be the #1 seed in the District 5 Tourny. That is big because they only have to beat Carrington or EKM instead of having to go through both of them to win the District. (Though they will definitely see at least one of them again in the Regional Tourny.) The Region 3 Tourny's semi-finals and finals could be 4 really, really good games.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 11:21 am
by sportsfan111
Sportsrube wrote:LaMoure beat Carrington in Carrington by 7 last night. LaMoure should be the #1 seed in the District 5 Tourny. That is big because they only have to beat Carrington or EKM instead of having to go through both of them to win the District. (Though they will definitely see at least one of them again in the Regional Tourny.) The Region 3 Tourny's semi-finals and finals could be 4 really, really good games.


That second night of districts will be a huge game for Carrington and Edgeley.. loser will get MPB or Kidder County first round of regionals. Can’t wait.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:23 pm
by sportsphenom
sportsfan111 wrote:
Sportsrube wrote:LaMoure beat Carrington in Carrington by 7 last night. LaMoure should be the #1 seed in the District 5 Tourny. That is big because they only have to beat Carrington or EKM instead of having to go through both of them to win the District. (Though they will definitely see at least one of them again in the Regional Tourny.) The Region 3 Tourny's semi-finals and finals could be 4 really, really good games.


That second night of districts will be a huge game for Carrington and Edgeley.. loser will get MPB or Kidder County first round of regionals. Can’t wait.


The Region 3 tournament will be more entertaining and more competitive than the state tournament. Guaranteed.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:27 pm
by Flying Wallenda
sportsphenom wrote:
sportsfan111 wrote:
Sportsrube wrote:LaMoure beat Carrington in Carrington by 7 last night. LaMoure should be the #1 seed in the District 5 Tourny. That is big because they only have to beat Carrington or EKM instead of having to go through both of them to win the District. (Though they will definitely see at least one of them again in the Regional Tourny.) The Region 3 Tourny's semi-finals and finals could be 4 really, really good games.


That second night of districts will be a huge game for Carrington and Edgeley.. loser will get MPB or Kidder County first round of regionals. Can’t wait.


The Region 3 tournament will be more entertaining and more competitive than the state tournament. Guaranteed.

So you're saying whoever wins region 3 blows through the state tournament? I'll take the field vs the region 3 winner.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:29 pm
by sportsphenom
Flying Wallenda wrote:
sportsphenom wrote:
sportsfan111 wrote:
Sportsrube wrote:LaMoure beat Carrington in Carrington by 7 last night. LaMoure should be the #1 seed in the District 5 Tourny. That is big because they only have to beat Carrington or EKM instead of having to go through both of them to win the District. (Though they will definitely see at least one of them again in the Regional Tourny.) The Region 3 Tourny's semi-finals and finals could be 4 really, really good games.


That second night of districts will be a huge game for Carrington and Edgeley.. loser will get MPB or Kidder County first round of regionals. Can’t wait.


The Region 3 tournament will be more entertaining and more competitive than the state tournament. Guaranteed.

So you're saying whoever wins region 3 blows through the state tournament? I'll take the field vs the region 3 winner.


I didn't say that, I just think it will be more competitive all around. There will be some very lopsided games at the state tournament, where as Region 3 games will come down to the wire every single night.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 4:36 pm
by sportsfan111
sportsphenom wrote:
sportsfan111 wrote:
Sportsrube wrote:LaMoure beat Carrington in Carrington by 7 last night. LaMoure should be the #1 seed in the District 5 Tourny. That is big because they only have to beat Carrington or EKM instead of having to go through both of them to win the District. (Though they will definitely see at least one of them again in the Regional Tourny.) The Region 3 Tourny's semi-finals and finals could be 4 really, really good games.


That second night of districts will be a huge game for Carrington and Edgeley.. loser will get MPB or Kidder County first round of regionals. Can’t wait.


The Region 3 tournament will be more entertaining and more competitive than the state tournament. Guaranteed.


It has been the past 3 years of volleyball so basketball might as well follow suit..

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:36 pm
by sportsfan111
Flying Wallenda wrote:
sportsphenom wrote:
sportsfan111 wrote:
Sportsrube wrote:LaMoure beat Carrington in Carrington by 7 last night. LaMoure should be the #1 seed in the District 5 Tourny. That is big because they only have to beat Carrington or EKM instead of having to go through both of them to win the District. (Though they will definitely see at least one of them again in the Regional Tourny.) The Region 3 Tourny's semi-finals and finals could be 4 really, really good games.


That second night of districts will be a huge game for Carrington and Edgeley.. loser will get MPB or Kidder County first round of regionals. Can’t wait.


The Region 3 tournament will be more entertaining and more competitive than the state tournament. Guaranteed.

So you're saying whoever wins region 3 blows through the state tournament? I'll take the field vs the region 3 winner.


Basketball is probably the most difficult sport to guarantee a winner. I would need a lot of hands to count how many games I've seen the better team shoot 15% or come out a little too confident and lose.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2018 6:55 pm
by lennylive
Once again they get it wrong... MPB has victories over 4 of the top 10 teams..all of them AWAY games..and they get moved to #2...hahaha... and the #1 ranked team in the state is undefeated, but has not won over anyone ranked...(received votes is all).....

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 1:45 am
by scc
lennylive wrote:Once again they get it wrong... MPB has victories over 4 of the top 10 teams..all of them AWAY games..and they get moved to #2...hahaha... and the #1 ranked team in the state is undefeated, but has not won over anyone ranked...(received votes is all).....

We'll find out in March.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:06 am
by lennylive
scc wrote:
lennylive wrote:Once again they get it wrong... MPB has victories over 4 of the top 10 teams..all of them AWAY games..and they get moved to #2...hahaha... and the #1 ranked team in the state is undefeated, but has not won over anyone ranked...(received votes is all).....

We'll find out in March.


let me make a prediction...whoever comes out of Region 3...will be the state champion...and yes It will happen in March

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:10 am
by lennylive
I wonder what the Strength of Victory results would be for the top 10 teams? ...anyone ??

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:52 am
by senorhauser
lennylive wrote:Once again they get it wrong... MPB has victories over 4 of the top 10 teams..all of them AWAY games..and they get moved to #2...hahaha... and the #1 ranked team in the state is undefeated, but has not won over anyone ranked...(received votes is all).....


The last few words are incorrect good human. Shiloh & Rugby were both ranked when they played over the holiday season...(so its ONE ranked team!! wooooooooo)

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 9:09 am
by packers21
lennylive wrote:I wonder what the Strength of Victory results would be for the top 10 teams? ...anyone ??

C R P Team RPI SOS WL
1 1 1 Shiloh Christian .7130 .617 15-0
2 5 6 Carrington .6358 .606 11-4
3 2 Grafton .6713 .610 11-4
4 3 2 Medina-Pingree-Buchanan .6426 .558 13-2
5 4 8 Des Lacs-Burlington .6365 .528 15-1
6 6 4 Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier .6324 .562 13-2
7 7 5 Langdon-Edmore-Munich .6253 .555 13-2
8 9 Four Winds-Minnewaukan .6211 .571 12-4
9 8 Grant County .6251 .580 11-4
10 11 Kidder County .6195 .543 12-3

Took this off the KMAV website, the C is a personal rating scale they use, R is the RPI, and P stand for where they are in the poll that week.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:44 am
by airmail
Not sure how it's calculated, but I just can't figure out why Bismarck has such a high SOS. Just don't see it. :?:

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:02 am
by Sportsrube
Personally I think the first round of the Region 3 Tournament could see a number of blowouts. I see MPB, EKM, LMM, Carrington and KC as being very competitive against each other, but the other 3 teams who make it are going to get beat by double digits in the 1st round. The #3 and #4 seeds from District 6 (whoever they are) cannot match up with LMM, EKM or Carrington and the #4 from District 5 (whoever it may be) will struggle with MPB. I see the only good game in the 1st round as being the #3 from District 5 against the #2 from District 6. The semi-finals, the 3rd place game and the Championship games should all be extremely competitive. Just my opinion.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Thu Jan 25, 2018 11:52 am
by Run4Fun2009
airmail wrote:Not sure how it's calculated, but I just can't figure out why Bismarck has such a high SOS. Just don't see it. :?:


It’s not just the team’s opponents record (2/3rds)...it’s also their opponent’s opponents (1/3rd)