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Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:00 pm
by Run4Fun2009
SIXTH POLL
Monday, January 9th

1. Shiloh Christian (12) 11-0 174
2. Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier (5) 10-0 166
3. Langdon-Edmore-Munich (1) 9-1 144
4. LaMoure-LM 10-1 111
5. Medina/Pingree-Buchanan 7-2 106
6. Thompson 8-2 81
7. Carrington 8-3 55
8. Trenton 8-0 51
9. Rugby 9-2 43
10. Des Lacs-Burlington 9-1 37
Others Receiving Votes: Grafton (8-3), Four Winds-Minnewaukan (8-3), Kidder County (7-3), Grant County (8-2), Killdeer (6-2).

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:53 pm
by sportsfan111
MPB recently beat Lamoure and I believe it was by double digits? hmm.. Carrington also beat MPB a few weeks ago without their best defender from a season ago who also averaged 15 points a night.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:32 pm
by Run4Fun2009
sportsfan111 wrote:MPB recently beat Lamoure and I believe it was by double digits? hmm.. Carrington also beat MPB a few weeks ago without their best defender from a season ago who also averaged 15 points a night.


Medina/Pingree-Buchanan def. Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier tonight 44-43; Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier def. Carrington last week 48-43...so in regards to all this...it is ANYONE'S REGION in Region 3!

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2018 10:50 pm
by sportsfan111
Run4Fun2009 wrote:
sportsfan111 wrote:MPB recently beat Lamoure and I believe it was by double digits? hmm.. Carrington also beat MPB a few weeks ago without their best defender from a season ago who also averaged 15 points a night.


Medina/Pingree-Buchanan def. Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier tonight 44-43; Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier def. Carrington last week 48-43...so in regards to all this...it is ANYONE'S REGION in Region 3!


Never said it wasn’t. Simply questioning how Lamoure is ranked ahead of MPB after MPB beat them by double digits..

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:04 am
by Flip
More media presence in the Lamoure area than Medina.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 10:52 am
by sportsphenom
Region 3 is going to be a dogfight and MPB beat EKM without Sabinash playing? I watched on the Cube, she must've been hurt or sick? Whoever has the hot hand is going to win Region 3.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:07 am
by Flying Wallenda
sportsfan111 wrote:
Run4Fun2009 wrote:
sportsfan111 wrote:MPB recently beat Lamoure and I believe it was by double digits? hmm.. Carrington also beat MPB a few weeks ago without their best defender from a season ago who also averaged 15 points a night.


Medina/Pingree-Buchanan def. Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier tonight 44-43; Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier def. Carrington last week 48-43...so in regards to all this...it is ANYONE'S REGION in Region 3!


Never said it wasn’t. Simply questioning how Lamoure is ranked ahead of MPB after MPB beat them by double digits..


MPB has 2 losses - Lamoure 1 - heck, voters out on the west side likely have no idea that MPB beat Lamoure by double digits - they see 2 losses vs 1 and rank Lamoure higher.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:14 am
by sportsphenom
That's why I trust the QRF rating over media rating. MPB is above LaMoure in that. But just like every other year the polls mean nothing.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 11:25 am
by Run4Fun2009
sportsphenom wrote:That's why I trust the QRF rating over media rating. MPB is above LaMoure in that. But just like every other year the polls mean nothing.


QRF means nothing in ND (yet) it’s essentially just another ‘poll’

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:32 pm
by sportsphenom
Run4Fun2009 wrote:
sportsphenom wrote:That's why I trust the QRF rating over media rating. MPB is above LaMoure in that. But just like every other year the polls mean nothing.


QRF means nothing in ND (yet) it’s essentially just another ‘poll’


I realize that, but its better than a media poll where 75% of the teams are not seen by the media. I don't like the media poll, if anything it plays with these young kid's minds. #1 don't mean anything until you prove yourself in late February/March.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:49 pm
by sportsfan111
sportsphenom wrote:
Run4Fun2009 wrote:
sportsphenom wrote:That's why I trust the QRF rating over media rating. MPB is above LaMoure in that. But just like every other year the polls mean nothing.


QRF means nothing in ND (yet) it’s essentially just another ‘poll’


I realize that, but its better than a media poll where 75% of the teams are not seen by the media. I don't like the media poll, if anything it plays with these young kid's minds. #1 don't mean anything until you prove yourself in late February/March.


By QRF are you referring to the computer rankings? Curious, Run, why you say it means nothing yet?

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:16 pm
by Run4Fun2009
sportsfan111 wrote:
sportsphenom wrote:
Run4Fun2009 wrote:
sportsphenom wrote:That's why I trust the QRF rating over media rating. MPB is above LaMoure in that. But just like every other year the polls mean nothing.


QRF means nothing in ND (yet) it’s essentially just another ‘poll’


I realize that, but its better than a media poll where 75% of the teams are not seen by the media. I don't like the media poll, if anything it plays with these young kid's minds. #1 don't mean anything until you prove yourself in late February/March.


By QRF are you referring to the computer rankings? Curious, Run, why you say it means nothing yet?


QRF has no standing in ND...It is another nice tool for debate. I am hoping the QRF may make an appearance in ND soon

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:55 pm
by sportsfan111
Run4Fun2009 wrote:
sportsfan111 wrote:
sportsphenom wrote:
Run4Fun2009 wrote:
sportsphenom wrote:That's why I trust the QRF rating over media rating. MPB is above LaMoure in that. But just like every other year the polls mean nothing.


QRF means nothing in ND (yet) it’s essentially just another ‘poll’


I realize that, but its better than a media poll where 75% of the teams are not seen by the media. I don't like the media poll, if anything it plays with these young kid's minds. #1 don't mean anything until you prove yourself in late February/March.


By QRF are you referring to the computer rankings? Curious, Run, why you say it means nothing yet?


QRF has no standing in ND...It is another nice tool for debate. I am hoping the QRF may make an appearance in ND soon


What is different about the computer ranking found here https://classbbasketball.com/ and a QRF?

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:54 am
by kboftw
Nothing, really. I think what Run meant is that the only thing QRF is used for in ND is for *some* football seedings in the playoffs. It's used a bit more for seedings across the river in MN.

I'm not a huge fan of polls and rankings for high school sports, in general, but I'm a coach so I'll admit a bias.

sportsfan111 wrote:
Run4Fun2009 wrote:
sportsfan111 wrote:
sportsphenom wrote:
Run4Fun2009 wrote:
sportsphenom wrote:That's why I trust the QRF rating over media rating. MPB is above LaMoure in that. But just like every other year the polls mean nothing.


QRF means nothing in ND (yet) it’s essentially just another ‘poll’


I realize that, but its better than a media poll where 75% of the teams are not seen by the media. I don't like the media poll, if anything it plays with these young kid's minds. #1 don't mean anything until you prove yourself in late February/March.


By QRF are you referring to the computer rankings? Curious, Run, why you say it means nothing yet?


QRF has no standing in ND...It is another nice tool for debate. I am hoping the QRF may make an appearance in ND soon


What is different about the computer ranking found here https://classbbasketball.com/ and a QRF?

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:01 pm
by Run4Fun2009
SEVENTH POLL
Monday, January 15th

1. Shiloh Christian (17) 13-0 170
2. Langdon/Edmore/Munich 11-1 145
3. LaMoure-LM 11-1 118
3. Medina/Pingree-Buchanan 10-2 118
5. Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier 11-1 111
6. Carrington 10-3 74
7. Trenton 9-0 61
8. Rugby 11-2 51
9. Des Lacs-Burlington 12-1 44
10. Thompson 9-3 27
Others Receiving Votes: Grafton (10-3), Four Winds-Minnewaukan (9-4), Bowman County (9-2), Kidder County (9-3), Kindred (9-3).

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:46 am
by Flip
Two questions:
Five teams most likely to be in the state tournament?
Top five favorites to win the state tournament?

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:46 am
by ndlionsfan
Flip wrote:Two questions:
Five teams most likely to be in the state tournament?
Top five favorites to win the state tournament?



Tough questions... Region 3 is a complete tossup and I think most of the other regions also have two good teams that could probably beat each other on a given night. I think most people would pick Langdon in Region 4, but I believe FWM has just as good of shot to head to state. Should be a great game if the two meet. Rugby and DLB look to be the cream of the crop in Region 6 and Thompson and Grafton in Region 2.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:48 am
by sportsfan111
Flip wrote:Two questions:
Five teams most likely to be in the state tournament?
Top five favorites to win the state tournament?

My 4 most likely to make the tournament:
Shiloh, Rugby, Langdon, and Kindred (was either them or Thompson and I think region 2 has more competition)
I don't really believe any of them will be shoe-ins. Does Langdon play Four Winds before the season ends? I could see them giving Langdon some trouble.

My favorites to win the tournament:
Shiloh (Haven't seen them- going off of record)
Carrington/Edgeley/MPB/Lamoure

Girls basketball has really taken a hit these past couple years. The number of quality teams is pretty small.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:23 am
by packers21
5 most likely to make state:
1. Bismarck
2. Langdon
3. Thompson
4. Kindred
5. Rugby

4/5 were closer, I think 1-3 are virtually shoe-ins,barring a massive upset

Top 5 to win.

1. Bismarck
2. Langdon
3. R3 winner (Edgeley, Carrington, MPB and Lamoure will all beat up on each other, and Kidder smoked Langdon in Jamestown over break). Hewitt isn't where she was before she was hurt-yet. Whoever comes out this Region will be battle tested.
4. Thompson
5. Trenton

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:27 pm
by sportsfan111
packers21 wrote:5 most likely to make state:
1. Bismarck
2. Langdon
3. Thompson
4. Kindred
5. Rugby

4/5 were closer, I think 1-3 are virtually shoe-ins,barring a massive upset

Top 5 to win.

1. Bismarck
2. Langdon
3. R3 winner (Edgeley, Carrington, MPB and Lamoure will all beat up on each other, and Kidder smoked Langdon in Jamestown over break). Hewitt isn't where she was before she was hurt-yet. Whoever comes out this Region will be battle tested.
4. Thompson
5. Trenton


She sure looked close last friday.. She has only played minimal spurts prior to Friday and in the Langdon and EKM games she had 5 steals. Carrington's press is very tough when she's in the game (even at 80%).

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:13 am
by baskets-r-us
Being a fan from Region 8 i dont think Trenton has it wrapped up yet..they are finally playing the better teams from the district now starting tomorrow with Watford City then next week have to play both parshall and new town so if trenton can get a couple wins in the next couple weeks they are going to be the team to beat..but i wouldnt count out Parshall or New Town..yes Parshall lost to Divide and Powers Lake but that was with out the Hall sisters who are there go to girls...Parshall also has a tough schedule to end the season traveling both to trenton and new town on back to back nights next friday and saturday they also have to play watford at home on the 30th and end with stanley at home on Feb 1st and go to Bishop Ryan on Feb 3rd so if parshall can pull out some wins they are going to be a tough bunch to beat...New Town already beat Watford by 2 points and next week they go to Trenton on the 23rd and play parshall at home on the 27th so New Town can also make a run if they get on a roll

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:05 am
by Flip
ndlionsfan wrote:...Thompson and Grafton in Region 2.

They played Tuesday. Thompson was ahead by 25+ midway through the 3rd. I think HCV could be a contender. Thompson obviously the favorite.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:09 pm
by B-oldtimer
Is it me or is girls basketball level of competition down overall in the state. The exception being region 3 where we have three or four teams that are highly competitive. I look at region 4 level of competition has dropped from where it was just in last few years. Just from four years ago we had 3 or four teams that had chance to win and go to state. Region 2 looks the same way with Thompson being very competitive with only Grafton showing signs of maybe being able to play with them. Here again we had at least 3 or 4 teams in past that could have won this region. Reading on the sight it seems to be common thing in other region except for region 3. So what's going on is this just natural decline in overall talent or is something else happening to where we don't have level of competition we had in the past where we have competitive regions. It also appears to me that there are way more blow outs of games were not seeing where we have competitive games like we had in the past. The number of games with 20 plus victories is becoming more the norm than where we had games with single point losses.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:15 pm
by scc
B-oldtimer wrote:Is it me or is girls basketball level of competition down overall in the state. The exception being region 3 where we have three or four teams that are highly competitive. I look at region 4 level of competition has dropped from where it was just in last few years. Just from four years ago we had 3 or four teams that had chance to win and go to state. Region 2 looks the same way with Thompson being very competitive with only Grafton showing signs of maybe being able to play with them. Here again we had at least 3 or 4 teams in past that could have won this region. Reading on the sight it seems to be common thing in other region except for region 3. So what's going on is this just natural decline in overall talent or is something else happening to where we don't have level of competition we had in the past where we have competitive regions. It also appears to me that there are way more blow outs of games were not seeing where we have competitive games like we had in the past. The number of games with 20 plus victories is becoming more the norm than where we had games with single point losses.

Is the level down statewide? That certainly seems to be the case, but it's a trend that can be dated back to the switch of seasons for girls basketball and volleyball.

Thompson is the favorite in Region 2. They beat Grafton by 16 earlier this week. FSHP only lost to Thompson by 2 this year, and HCV took Grafton to overtime, so I think Region 2 has a few good teams.

Re: 2017-18 Polls

PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:11 pm
by ndtaterman
#3MPB 50 #2LEM 20