2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Class B Girls
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Who wins 2017 State Class B GBB

Poll ended at Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:08 am

North Star
15
52%
Kindred
5
17%
Park River-FL
4
14%
Watford City
2
7%
Our Redeemer's
0
No votes
Grant County
2
7%
Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier
1
3%
Glen Ullin-Hebron
0
No votes
 
Total votes : 29

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:33 pm

sportsnut5 wrote:Announcer said Olson from Our Redeamers has played since she was a 6th grader. That would make her an illegal player. 6th graders cannot play high school basketball.


He mis-spoke...as usual!

Pulled up newspaper article that is correct...playing since the SEVENTH grade.
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Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby d_fense » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:44 pm

Bigbrew22 wrote:That's why I think state b should always be in Minot or Bismarck. The casual viewer won't drive 4.5 to 6 hrs for it keep it in the middle and more come

Personally I don't think that the "casual fan" has anything to do with poor attendance. I think factors contributing to poor attendance are...
1. The venue is awful. No business holding a tournament there.
2. People will not like this comment, but the product is bad. I love basketball, but I don't know why someone who doesn't have family, friends, or other compelling interest would go. IMO the final game has been the only one that has displayed an uptempo style, good shooting, and relatively evenly matched teams.
3. There are not many casual girls basketball fans. How many teams play in packed venues, even in their own gyms?
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Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby sportsnut5 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:23 am

Run, figured the announcer was wrong, which does not surprise me.
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Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby Flip » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:54 am

KG4MVP wrote:Lived and died by the 3. 22 was what, 1-10 from 3?

#22 was 2 for 3.
ninja_joe wrote:Was PRFL missing some kids? They sure didn't resemble #3 team in state. So much for last year's experience too and having seniors. I am guessing something else is going on within that team -- they sure had the look of a distracted team.

That was the first time they had that starting lineup all season.
KG4MVP wrote:Pretty small crowds on tv..

packers21 wrote:Doesn't even look like it would fill the betty

I don't think the Betty would have been filled to capacity, but I think it would be pretty full.
HighPlainsDrifter wrote:OK, I said I'm a NS partisan, but I have to question the wisdom of the coach. Why would she wait till 1:30 left in the game to take the starters out? These young ladies have to play 3 games in 3 days. That's tough for any athlete. She could have easily taken them out with 6 minutes left. If you gets out of hand, you put them back in. Come on, man!

I'm not disagreeing with you, but I don't think they'll be fatigued Saturday night. NS plays a slow methodical pace and there are so many stoppages. Remember Shiloh played 6 girls in 3 games last year and never subbed in the championship.
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Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby scc » Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:20 am

The Betty would have had a good crowd for the afternoon games. Attendance at the evening games was awful, abysmal by halftime of the last game.
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Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby wan2bqb » Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:32 am

Bigbrew22 wrote:That's why I think state b should always be in Minot or Bismarck. The casual viewer won't drive 4.5 to 6 hrs for it keep it in the middle and more come


Ill take it one further. Put it in Bismarck and leave it. Girls and Boys B in Bismarck. Girls and Boys A in Minot and leave it alone. I have not been to a B that has better crowds or been better run than in Bismarck. Plain and simple.
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Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby Bigbrew22 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:36 am

d_fense wrote:
Bigbrew22 wrote:That's why I think state b should always be in Minot or Bismarck. The casual viewer won't drive 4.5 to 6 hrs for it keep it in the middle and more come

Personally I don't think that the "casual fan" has anything to do with poor attendance. I think factors contributing to poor attendance are...
1. The venue is awful. No business holding a tournament there.
2. People will not like this comment, but the product is bad. I love basketball, but I don't know why someone who doesn't have family, friends, or other compelling interest would go. IMO the final game has been the only one that has displayed an uptempo style, good shooting, and relatively evenly matched teams.
3. There are not many casual girls basketball fans. How many teams play in packed venues, even in their own gyms?


Not entirely true. I don't know anyone in the tourney but I do have five kids that as a family we love to go to the state B. It's a great atmosphere for them to see at a young age, it just another tool I use to help motivate but unless it's in Minot or Bismarck I'm not traveling that far unless our team is in it
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Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby ndlionsfan » Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:11 am

Last game of the day was fun to watch. Olson from ORCS was the best player I saw on day 1 (did not get to see the Kindred game). Mogan and Sundeen from WC also played great. Don't know how old Sundeen is, but for Mogan to be an 8th grader and play like that, she has a bright future.

If ORCS shoots lights out tonight, they have a decent shot at the upset. North Star's D is so solid, though, I don't see them giving many uncontested looks.
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Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby Gunning4ya » Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:18 am

sportsnut5 wrote:Announcer said Olson from Our Redeamers has played since she was a 6th grader. That would make her an illegal player. 6th graders cannot play high school basketball.


As usual Dom Izzo is wrong, Olson started in the Eighth Grade playing on varsity.
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Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby ReadyToPlay » Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:33 am

Maybe he was wrong or mis-spoke, but when watching the game, I like his display of excitement which keeps your interest as he is not a mono tone sports announcer. With the effort he puts into his broadcasting, he's bound to have an error once in awhile, but thanks to a forum like this, he will surely be corrected.
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Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby ndlionsfan » Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:36 am

Just for discussion, what are the enrollments for this year's field? Grant Co or ORCS must be the smallest.
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Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby ballernd » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:07 am

Enrollment for schools at state

Kindred 196
Park River 140
Edgeley-K-M 90
North Star 68
Grant County 80
Our Redeemers 71
Glen Ullin-Hebron 87
Watford City 554
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Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby Flip » Fri Mar 03, 2017 10:15 am

ballernd wrote:Enrollment for schools at state

Kindred 196
Park River 140
Edgeley-K-M 90
North Star 68
Grant County 80
Our Redeemers 71
Glen Ullin-Hebron 87
Watford City 554

9-12 by fall enrollment
WC 334
GU-H 93
Kindred 197
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Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby airmail » Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:48 am

Did I hear/ read somewhere that Watford City was jumping to Class A in the near future?
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Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby BigCat » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:15 pm

wan2bqb wrote:
Bigbrew22 wrote:That's why I think state b should always be in Minot or Bismarck. The casual viewer won't drive 4.5 to 6 hrs for it keep it in the middle and more come


Ill take it one further. Put it in Bismarck and leave it. Girls and Boys B in Bismarck. Girls and Boys A in Minot and leave it alone. I have not been to a B that has better crowds or been better run than in Bismarck. Plain and simple.


Amen!!!
I agree with wholeheartedly. Bismarck starts with "B"for a reason.
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Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby scc » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:40 pm

airmail wrote:Did I hear/ read somewhere that Watford City was jumping to Class A in the near future?

In 2 years
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Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby ndlionsfan » Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:48 pm

Flip wrote:
ballernd wrote:Enrollment for schools at state

Kindred 196
Park River 140
Edgeley-K-M 90
North Star 68
Grant County 80
Our Redeemers 71
Glen Ullin-Hebron 87
Watford City 554

9-12 by fall enrollment
WC 334
GU-H 93
Kindred 197


I would think EKM would be larger with 3 high schools in the coop. Maybe one wasn't added in?
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Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:18 pm

ndlionsfan wrote:
Flip wrote:
ballernd wrote:Enrollment for schools at state

Kindred 196
Park River 140
Edgeley-K-M 90
North Star 68
Grant County 80
Our Redeemers 71
Glen Ullin-Hebron 87
Watford City 554

9-12 by fall enrollment
WC 334
GU-H 93
Kindred 197


I would think EKM would be larger with 3 high schools in the coop. Maybe one wasn't added in?


My guess is that Montpelier is missing from data:
58 Edgeley
45* Kulm
40* Montpelier
(via NDHSAA website directory)

That site also has:
Kindred 205
GU (52*) & Hebron (43)
Park River 147 & Fordville-Lankin 17
North Star 69
ORCS 69*
Grant County 65
Watford City 320*

* - 7-12 data
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Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby B-oldtimer » Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:54 pm

EKM figures may be close to the above figures the listed enrollments for Kulm and Montpelier are for 7 through 12 not 9 through 12. If like it is for a lot of schools there higher class numbers are now in lower grades not in higher grades. There are a lot of small schools in state of North Dakota running smaller than a lot think they are.
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Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby ndlionsfan » Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:00 pm

A lot of times in the NDHSAA directory, it is incorrectly listed 7-12 or 9-12. Watford City's is listed as 320 7-12, but that is actually the 9-12 enrollment. Something in the reporting process gets messed up somehow each year.
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Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby vikingman » Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:45 am

Is there some animosity between radio coverage and TV coverage personnel of the state tourney? I've listened to some recorded radio broadcasts (more than one station), and they always make a point to mention when a time-out is a 'media' timeout. I don't think I ever heard Izzo declare that a timeout was a 'media' timeout. I get the feeling that the radio guys resent it, or at least want to make sure that their listeners know that it is TV that is to blame for all the timeouts.
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Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby OldSchoolBaller » Sat Mar 11, 2017 3:51 pm

I think I remember Izzo saying that it is a media timeout. I can't speak on whether or not there is resentment though.
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