Private Schools Shouldn't be Class B!

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Postby Jens » Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:12 am

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Postby scc » Sun Sep 17, 2006 11:14 am

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scruffy wrote:Excuse me takedown, but the region has a say in who officiates regional tournaments. Its not  the school thats hosts the event.  With girls basketball being played at the same time as boys,  there is a shortage of officials at tournament time with girls, boys and class "A" and class "B" going on at the same time. The class "B" regionals don't always get the cream of the crop....

Where u at the game. Even if they dont get the cream of the crop the reffing shouldn't be that bad. Plus i never said that trinity get there own ref's. But when a guy puts up a shot after the buzzer and its called good. That shouldn't take the best ref to realize that.

Unfortunately, I've seen shots called good after the buzzer or shots called no good that were before the buzzer more than a few times the last several years.  It's part of the game, and it probably has nothing to do with what teams were on the floor.
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Postby Takedown » Sun Sep 17, 2006 5:47 pm

Yes i realize this is not the only time it happens. But that shot combined with other things=terrible reffing i'm not say trinity or other schools hire them but could they offer them incentives???
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Postby Diamond D » Tue Nov 07, 2006 5:18 am

I can tell you of a couple of recruiting incidences from 1992 to 1995.  These instances were not only private, but public schools as well.

Pankratz from Carpio to Minot Ryan

Randy Lewis from Velva to Minot High

Les Jepsen's brother from Bowbells to Williston

Jody Granlie (female) from Underwood to Washburn

One of the Henry boys from Newburg to Minot Ryan

Then you have the Landsford group that either got pulled towards Glenburn or towards Mohall.  There was alot of pulling on plenty of those guys.  Undilin went to Mohall, but Routelage (sp?) went to Glenburn.

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Postby shs01240 » Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:37 am

Hey im a student at fargo shanley and just stumbled upon this topic.  i would just like to add that it is not school policy for administrators to recruit.  no money is given to athletes.  everyone pays the same tuition regardless of what activities they are in.  Students on the other hand may be recruiting their athletic friends to come to their school.  this usually happens in the 8th,and 9th grades, because it is a defenite possibility that a good athlete at north or south wouldn't see varsity time until their junior or senior year.  at a private school like oak grove or shanley, the odds of becoming a 4 or even 3 year starter are significantly better.
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Postby Claz B Fan » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:35 pm

Well said shs ++++++++
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Postby AAfootballfan » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:23 pm

So when Dickinson Trinity went and got Kimball Fouatea if thats how you spell his name out of the correctional facility a few years ago to play football for the Titans was he going there for Religious Reasons....I'll say that I believe these schools do belong in class B still but they do have advantages at times...
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Postby NDSportsFan » Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:35 pm

Kids from the correctional center were only allowed to go to Trinity,  because of a decision made by the center.
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Postby shs01240 » Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:04 am

As far as kids being "accepted" into private schools i can only speak about SHS.  as far as i know any new prospective students aren't just allowed in.  there is somewhat of an interview process, (Not very rigorous) but there is a limit to the number of student enrolled at our schools.  i'm pretty sure the administration would defenitely frown upon a student transferring for the sole reason of athletics.  Though it may still happen, odds of being let in are increased if there is a stated religious sentiment.  whether truthful or not.
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Postby Baller » Wed Dec 20, 2006 10:50 am

sorry to say...but I can't of think of a time when a an athlete has transfered to St. Mary's for its athletic program.  There is more recruitment for music at that school.....way more recruiting done by bismarck high and mandan than SM.
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Postby baseball18 » Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:36 pm

Baller wrote:sorry to say...but I can't of think of a time when a an athlete has transfered to St. Mary's for its athletic program.  There is more recruitment for music at that school.....way more recruiting done by bismarck high and mandan than SM.

yeah, its not like Steve Miller calling Drew Hendrickson every night of his sophomore year to come to BHS.  Hey and look how that turned out.
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Postby magichoops » Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:45 am

The private schools themseleves don't recruit. It is parents and boosters that do the recruiting. My solution to all of this is to bring back the North Star conference.
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Postby Baller » Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:16 am

magichoops wrote:The private schools themseleves don't recruit. It is parents and boosters that do the recruiting. My solution to all of this is to bring back the North Star conference.

You can't tell me private schools...look what mandan does year in and year out....if its not amundson recruiting, then someone is putting the idea in these girls' head to go to mandan.  there is so much jockeying to get kids to either declare bismarck or century for kids before they get to 9th grade. this is not an issue of private schools being class b that is for sure
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Postby magic715 » Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:33 am

Diamond D wrote:I can tell you of a couple of recruiting incidences from 1992 to 1995.  These instances were not only private, but public schools as well.

Pankratz from Carpio to Minot Ryan

Randy Lewis from Velva to Minot High

Les Jepsen's brother from Bowbells to Williston

Jody Granlie (female) from Underwood to Washburn

One of the Henry boys from Newburg to Minot Ryan

Then you have the Landsford group that either got pulled towards Glenburn or towards Mohall.  There was alot of pulling on plenty of those guys.  Undilin went to Mohall, but Routelage (sp?) went to Glenburn.

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Well in the last instance, i dont think it was recruiting, at all, Undlins mother worked in Mohall, and i am not sure aobut the Routledge situation, other than i think they were closer friends with the Glenburn kids than the Mohall kids. I am from glenburn area originally and never felt like mohall recruited Undlin or Glenburn recruited the Routledges, but also there were a few other good players from lansford not mentioned that went one way or the other. But with there high school closing, they got to make there choice, and rightfully so i feel.
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Postby shs01240 » Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:28 am

there is asolutely no way that a private school in north dakoata would ever get away with giving free-rides to athletes.  you have to realize how po'd people in groups like drama and choir would be if that were ever true.  When you start to determine which families get athletic scholarships and which don't, the animosity created amongst parents would be far too high for that school to continue existing.  There is now way that free rides are being given out to athletes.  Shanley is Class A and we compete against the north's and south's of the state without scholarships, and im sure everyone else does to.

 
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Postby Ming01 » Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:03 pm

I say this topic should be ended, this topic is basically an excuse and is also trying to take a shot at these schools because Trinity and/or Ryan have been successful at the Class B level especially Trinity.
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Postby RazorsEdge » Mon Dec 25, 2006 4:19 pm

Years back Shanley had an article in the Fort Francis Ontario paper looking for hockey players.
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Postby baseball » Mon Dec 25, 2006 5:52 pm

RazorsEdge wrote:Years back Shanley had an article in the Fort Francis Ontario paper looking for hockey players.

if thats not recruiting.....
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Postby shs01240 » Tue Dec 26, 2006 9:03 am

i wasnt aware of that. i can guarantee that any hockey players that responded to that publication had to pay full tuition though
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Postby baseball » Tue Dec 26, 2006 10:07 am

shs01240 wrote:i wasnt aware of that. i can guarantee that any hockey players that responded to that publication had to pay full tuition though

noone said they handed out scholarships.  but isnt recruiting basically defined as going out of ones way to get another person to come to your place???  putting an add in the paper i woudl say is out of the way.
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Postby Ping Pong » Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:12 pm

ok not that an add in tha paper is good, but i dont think that wuld define recruiting. wuldnt u have have 2 give them something 4 it 2b a recruit?
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Postby Ping Pong » Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:52 am

Ming01 wrote:I say this topic should be ended, this topic is basically an excuse and is also trying to take a shot at these schools because Trinity and/or Ryan have been successful at the Class B level especially Trinity.

exactly.
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Postby baseball » Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:47 am

Ping Pong wrote:ok not that an add in tha paper is good, but i dont think that wuld define recruiting. wuldnt u have have 2 give them something 4 it 2b a recruit?

technically not recruiting probably not but how many school will put a want ad in the paper for a basketball/football/hockey player??  its just not right
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Postby Ping Pong » Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:11 pm

ya i know. i have never seen an ad for a hs athelete. but if i did it would not be recruiting.
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Postby shs01240 » Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:53 pm

Shanley was in the process of resurrecting a hockey program that had been missing for over 15 year.
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