North Dakota Preps

Posted: **Tue Dec 05, 2023 12:45 am**

First Poll
Monday December 4th
1. Bowman County (12) 0-0 199
2. North Star (5) 0-0 183
3. Sargent County (3) 0-0 161
4. Bishop Ryan (1) 0-0 133
5. Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier 0-0 124
6 (tie). Linton-HMB 0-0 87
6 (tie). Westhope-Newburg 0-0 87
8. May-Port-CG 0-0 64
9. Flasher 0-0 60
10. Langdon Area-Edmore-Munich 0-0 22
Others Receiving Votes: Hankinson, Medina-Pingree-Buchanan, South Border, Midway-Minto, Kenmare-Bowbells, North Praire.

Posted: **Tue Dec 05, 2023 5:16 pm**

Sorenson23 wrote:First Poll
Monday December 4th
1. Bowman County (12) 0-0 199
2. North Star (5) 0-0 183
3. Sargent County (3) 0-0 161
4. Bishop Ryan (1) 0-0 133
5. Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier 0-0 124
6 (tie). Linton-HMB 0-0 87
6 (tie). Westhope-Newburg 0-0 87
8. May-Port-CG 0-0 64
9. Flasher 0-0 60
10. Langdon Area-Edmore-Munich 0-0 22
Others Receiving Votes: Hankinson, Medina-Pingree-Buchanan, South Border, Midway-Minto, Kenmare-Bowbells, North Praire.

Watch out for EKM this year - They are going to make some noise. Very talented team coming back. Bishop Ryan might be ranked a bit high. They lost a lot of talented players from last years team. I'll be intrigued with how Flasher does this year. They bring back one of the best shooters in ND this year and as a team, they shoot the ball well. They lack size but will be a fun team to watch play.

Posted: **Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:38 am**

It will be interesting to see how Linton-HMB adjusts to a new coach this season. Wonder if they will run the same system or if the new guy will make major changes.
It will also be interesting to see how South Border adjusts to playing without Schmidt. They ran a lot of their offense through him at the high post last year.
EKM will also be a fun team to watch, good athletes, disciplined and Coach Strobel does a very good job. (One of the most underrated coaches in Class B i think.)

Posted: **Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:50 pm**

Third Poll
Monday December 11th
1. Bowman County (12) 0-0 174
2. North Star (1) 1-0 158
3. Sargent County (2) 0-0 140
4. Bishop Ryan 1-0 111
5. Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier 0-0 104
6. Linton-HMB 1-0 86
7. Westhope-Newburg 1-0 85
8. Flasher 0-0 52
9. Langdon Area-Edmore-Munich 0-0 31
10. Hankinson 1-0 21
Others Receiving Votes: South Border, May-Port-CG, Washburn, Garrison.

Posted: **Mon Dec 18, 2023 7:16 pm**

Third Poll
Monday December 18th
1. Bowman County (15) 3-0 204
2. North Star (4) 3-0 181
3. Sargent County (2) 2-0 167
4. Bishop Ryan 4-0 139
5. Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier 3-0 125
6. Westhope-Newburg 3-0 109
7. Linton/HMB 2-0 84
8. Langdon Area-Edmore-Munich 2-0 52
9. Hankinson 3-0 39
10. Flasher 1-1 23
Others Receiving Votes: South Border, Washburn, Cavalier, Garrison, Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood, Williston Trinity Christian.

Posted: **Tue Dec 19, 2023 9:30 am**

Sargent County with an absolute beat down of South Border last night.

Posted: **Tue Dec 26, 2023 11:25 pm**

Fourth Poll
Tuesday December 26th
1. Bowman County (13) 4-0; 193
2. North Star (4) 4-0; 174
3. Sargent County (2) 4-0; 164
4. Bishop Ryan (1) 5-0; 127
5. Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier 4-0; 121
6. Westhope-Newburg 4-0; 108
7. Linton-HMB 3-0; 78
8. Hankinson 4-0; 48
9. Langdon-Edmore-Munich 2-1; 24
9. Washburn 3-0; 24
9. Mohall-Lansford-Sherwoood 3-0; 24
Others receiving votes: Williston Trinity Christian (3-0), Cavalier (4-1), Garrison (3-2), Glen Ullin-Hebron (4-0).

Posted: **Wed Jan 03, 2024 4:00 am**

Fifth Poll
Tuesday January 2nd
1. Bowman County (18) 6-0 207
2. North Star (2) 5-0 179
3. Bishop Ryan (1) 6-0 149
4. Westhope-Newburg 6-0 143
5. Sargent County 4-1 117
6. Linton/HMB 6-0 115
7. Hankinson 5-0 93
8. Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier 5-1 42
9. Washburn 4-0 30
10. Langdon-Edmore-Munich 3-1 29
9 (tie) Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood 3-0 24
Others Receiving Votes: Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood, Glen Ullin-Hebron, Williston Trinity Christian, Cavalier, Garrison.

Posted: **Tue Jan 09, 2024 2:48 am**

Sixth Poll
Monday January 8th
1. Bowman County (14) 7-0 184
2. North Star (3) 8-0 165
3. Bishop Ryan (2) 7-0 144
4. Westhope-Newburg 7-0 141
5. Linton/HMB 7-0 118
6. Hankinson 5-1 54
7. Glen Ullin-Hebron 8-1 52
8. Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood 5-0 51
9. Sargent County 5-3 43
10. Garrison 7-2 21
Others Receiving Votes: Alexander 7-0), Wilton-Wing (6-1), Ellendale (6-2), North Border (5-1), Trinity Christian (4-1), Cavalier (6-2), Edgeley-Kulm/Montpelier (5-3), TGU (6-1).

Posted: **Wed Jan 10, 2024 11:06 am**

Going to be a Fun Tournament to watch

Posted: **Tue Jan 16, 2024 12:53 am**

Seventh Poll
Monday January 15th
1. Bowman County (18) 8-0 224
2. North Star (3) 8-0 201
3. Westhope-Newburg (1) 10-0 186
4. Linton/HMB (1) 8-0 156
5. Bishop Ryan 9-1 134
6. Hankinson 7-1 107
7. Glen Ullin-Hebron 9-1 92
8. Sargent County 7-3 48
9. Garrison 9-2 40
10. Wilton-Wing 8-1 34
Others Receiving Votes: North Border (6-1), Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood (6-1), Trinity Christian (6-1), Our Redeemer's (7-3), Cavalier (7-2), Ellendale (7-3), Alexander (8-1).

Posted: **Wed Jan 17, 2024 1:28 pm**

Four teams with Zero losses, countless with one loss, many with 2 & 3..this new class ironed its self out in a hurry and that tells me right there that it was a good Idea...
it would be cool to see a list of all the teams in B and there current record

Posted: **Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:01 pm**

I wondering what the top ten would look like if the old class B teams that are now A would look like.....

1. Kindred
2. Four Winds
3. Grafton
4. Beulah
5. Shiloh
6. Stanley
7. Bowman
8. North Star
9.Linton
10 Westhope
???????? Maybe???

Posted: **Wed Jan 17, 2024 3:08 pm**

maddog1971 wrote:I wondering what the top ten would look like if the old class B teams that are now A would look like.....

1. Kindred
2. Four Winds
3. Grafton
4. Beulah
5. Shiloh
6. Stanley
7. Bowman
8. North Star
9.Linton
10 Westhope
???????? Maybe???

Yeah, my bet this would be pretty close.

Posted: **Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:30 am**

winner-within wrote:Four teams with Zero losses, countless with one loss, many with 2 & 3..this new class ironed its self out in a hurry and that tells me right there that it was a good Idea...
it would be cool to see a list of all the teams in B and there current record

https://craigkeating.com/basketball/?d= ... rpi&y=2023

Posted: **Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:17 am**

Sorenson23 wrote:Seventh Poll
Monday January 15th
1. Bowman County (18) 8-0 224
2. North Star (3) 8-0 201
3. Westhope-Newburg (1) 10-0 186
4. Linton/HMB (1) 8-0 156
5. Bishop Ryan 9-1 134
6. Hankinson 7-1 107
7. Glen Ullin-Hebron 9-1 92
8. Sargent County 7-3 48
9. Garrison 9-2 40
10. Wilton-Wing 8-1 34
Others Receiving Votes: North Border (6-1), Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood (6-1), Trinity Christian (6-1), Our Redeemer's (7-3), Cavalier (7-2), Ellendale (7-3), Alexander (8-1).

Linton-HMB falls from the unbeaten ranks after losing to EKM who surprisingly fell out of the rankings this week; Linton will stay in the Top 10 IMO.

W-W lost to Garrison in a top 10 battle
ORCS, MLS, Alexander all take on losses this week.

Posted: **Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:21 am**

CoachK1992 wrote:
winner-within wrote:Four teams with Zero losses, countless with one loss, many with 2 & 3..this new class ironed its self out in a hurry and that tells me right there that it was a good Idea...
it would be cool to see a list of all the teams in B and there current record

https://craigkeating.com/basketball/?d= ... rpi&y=2023

Use the KMAV site often. Great site and very informative. However, wish they would make an adjustment to their computer ranking formula. Something is amiss in the formula when a team with 4 losses is ranked higher than an undefeated team who has beaten them head-to-head by a substantial margin. IMHO, not sure what formula is used but SOS should not weigh more into the formula than a head-to-head loss. 2 cents.

Posted: **Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:28 am**

It's just ranked on RPI & RPI+ (combination of the two classes).

RPI
25% - your win %
50% - opponent's win %
25% - opponent's opponent win %

My website will have a special RPI posted on it later this weekend that goes
35%
30%
25%
cause what you can control should matter more IMO.

**There will also be a power points formula (similar to SD's) as well

There used to be a 'Craig's Ranking' on there in the past...that seems to be gone now; I'd bet things would flip there

Posted: **Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:10 pm**

Maybe I'm missing something--- but how does a team that has lost 8 games rank higher with SOS than an undefeated or nearly undefeated team? Is it just natural that if you have lost that many games your schedule was harder (for that particular team) than a team that won all theirs? All matter of perspective I guess. (referencing the Craig Keating Link) I'm looking for any insight into making those rankings make sense. Too many teams sitting above teams they have already lost too.
Thank you in advance.

Posted: **Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:26 pm**

SportFan wrote:Maybe I'm missing something--- but how does a team that has lost 8 games rank higher with SOS than an undefeated or nearly undefeated team? Is it just natural that if you have lost that many games your schedule was harder (for that particular team) than a team that won all theirs? All matter of perspective I guess. (referencing the Craig Keating Link) I'm looking for any insight into making those rankings make sense. Too many teams sitting above teams they have already lost too.
Thank you in advance.

Strength of Schedule is just that the winning percentage of their opponents.

Westhope-Newburg (11-0) Schedule
Tioga 3-7
K-B 5-3
Nedrose 2-9
TMCHS 2-7
Hazen 5-5
PL-BC 7-4
ORCS 7-4
Velva 1-8
Berthold 1-9
Bottineau 7-5
D-A 2-11

TOTAL: 42-72 (.368)

Velva (1-8) Schedule
Des Lacs-Burlington 9-2
Bottineau 7-5
Garrison 11-2
K-B 5-3
North Prairie 6-5
St. John 3-9
M-L-S 7-2
Westhope-Newburg 11-0
Bishop Ryan 10-1

TOTAL: 69-29 (.704)

By looking at this as this falls into your questioning on a 8-loss team ahead of an undefeated team.

Velva opponents are 69-29 combined whereas Westhope-Newburg opponents are 42-72 combined
Velva has already played the top 3 teams in the region plus Garrison...those teams are 39-5 combined which bumps the strength drastically whereas Westhope-Newburg has already played the 3 bottom region teams combined at 4-28 plus Nedrose & TMCHS who don't have many wins either.

Posted: **Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:39 pm**

Thank you. I appreciate your insight and quick response. trying to learn what all these formulas mean/tell us.

Posted: **Fri Jan 19, 2024 5:04 pm**

SportFan wrote:Thank you. I appreciate your insight and quick response. trying to learn what all these formulas mean/tell us.

No problem!

Posted: **Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:40 pm**

Eighth Poll
Monday January 22nd
1. Bowman County (15) 11-0 195
2. North Star (4) 11-0 177
3. Westhope-Newburg (1) 12-0;166
4. Bishop Ryan 11-1 137
5. Hankinson 9-1 103
6. Glen Ullin-Hebron 12-1 99
7. Linton-HMB 9-1 74
8. Sargent County 8-3 46
9. Garrison 11-3 31
10. North Border 9-1 30
Others Receiving Votes: Trinity Christian, Wilton-Wing, Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier, Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood, Ellendale, Alexander.

Posted: **Tue Jan 30, 2024 4:01 am**

Nineth Poll
Monday January 29th
1. Bowman County (18) 12-0 198
2. Westhope-Newburg (1) 14-0 178
3. North Star (1) 13-1 145
4. Bishop Ryan 13-1 144
5. Glen Ullin-Hebron 13-1 116
6. Linton/HMB 11-1 97
7. Sargent County 9-4 69
8. Hankinson 10-2 64
9. Trinity Christian 11-1 41
10. Wilton-Wing 11-2 20
Others Receiving Votes: Edgeley/Kulm/Montpelier (10-3), Garrison (12-4), Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood (10-3), Alexander (11-2), Ellendale (10-4).

Posted: **Tue Feb 06, 2024 3:35 am**

Tenth Poll
Monday February 5th
1. Bowman County (19) 14-0; 206
2. North Star (2) 15-1; 184
3. Bishop Ryan 15-2; 161
4. Westhope-Newburg 15-1; 148
5. Glen Ullin-Hebron 15-1; 128
6. Hankinson 12-2; 79
7. Sargent County 11-4; 78
8. Linton-HMB 12-2; 69
9. Wilton-Wing 14-2; 47
10. Edgeley-Kulm-Montpelier 11-3; 29
Others Receiving Votes: Trinity Christian, Garrison, North Border, Ellendale

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