bisonation6 wrote:
Ohhhhhh there’s a difference!!!
I guess Bishop Ryan and Shiloh should just try losing every now and then. Sounds like if they become more mediocre like Sacred Heart then there won’t be a problem. Thanks for acknowledging the winning is the problem here.
It's fun when people ignore honest, insightful answers on this site, and, instead, run to the dog whistle.
I used the term "disproportionate". What this means is that Sacred Heart seems to fit well because the randomness of the athlete seems to be preserved there. It isn't in North Dakota's private schools, and we all know that.
No one minds winning, its how you win. If you win because you build a program, that should be respected. If you win because of an unfair draw of athletes playing in a situation of inequity, people have a problem, and we usually see that in the numbers. I'm guessing that, if you take the last 15-20 years, and you look at even the regional title games and up, private schools are far more prevalent for repetition of appearance than their public school counterparts.
If it was just Shiloh winning, or just Trinity winning, or just Ryan winning, that would be evidence they have a good thing going. When Shiloh and Trinity and Ryan and Oak Grove are winning constantly, the evidence would suggest private schools have an unfair advantage over their public school colleagues.
Further, what I find interesting is the complete ignorance to the clear difference between Sacred Heart being in East Grand Forks and Shiloh being in Bismarck or Oak Grove being in Fargo, or Minot Ryan being in Minot. East Grand Forks has a population slightly bigger than Valley City, and the geography of the situation is a deterrent from a lot of Grand Forks kids going there to play. If you go to Oak Grove, your games will be with Casselton, Arthur, Kindred, Tower City, Colfax, etc. Pretty easy travel. If you live in Grand Forks, and your kids go to Sacred Heart, your games are across the river, quite a distance from where you work or live by the time you get to it.
I know, because my wife and I have already had this conversation for our kids. One, that is in school, goes to private school. My wife wanted her to have the religious education experience she had (she went to St. Alphonsus in Langdon). I was okay with private or public. But we know that going all the way with it will be extremely difficult if our daughter plays anything. If Sacred Heart were in Grand Forks, it would be much easier. Trips to Larimore, Thompson, Grafton, Midway, Hillsboro, much easier than trips to Newfolden and Hallock.
It's not the same comparison.
bisonation6 wrote: Glad you have your Bismarck-Grand Forks South title matchup and the rural location of the one school makes everyone feel like it is “true class B.”
Wait, so, you just got upset because you feel schools are being unfairly targeted for winning, Thompson makes their FIRST STATE TOURNAMENT EVER, and now they are Grand Forks South? Why, because they have won one regional title?
The Henningsgards live closer to Grand Forks than they do Hillsboro. Don't recall hearing any complaints when they won back-to-back titles. I'll say "Hi" to them for you when I see them in church tomorrow, they go to church in Thompson sometimes. Weird how that worked out.
If you have a problem with Thompson because Grand Forks gives Thompson a chance for families to live in Thompson but work in Grand Forks, I can see your point. Thompson benefits because of it's proximity to a large town. Bigger towns have larger economic opportunities for families, and that allows for more families to live there, which means more opportunities for athletes to come through your school. Then you have a problem with:
Shiloh
Oak Grove
Trinity
Ryan
Our Redeemers
Trinity Christian
Central Cass
Kindred
Northern Cass
Hillsboro-Central Valley
Grafton
Carrington
New Salem
Beulah
Hazen
Rugby
I don't know, if you threw in a Valley City and a Wahpeton, maybe a Watford City, you would have a pretty interesting, viable-for-the-long-term look at a...........nope, never mind. Won't fly