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2017-18 Polls

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:00 pm

FIRST POLL
Monday, December 11th

1. Stanley (8) 1-0 120
2. Shiloh Christian (2) 1-0 98
3. Beulah (2) 0-0 95
4. Bishop Ryan 1-0 92
5. Carrington 0-0 62
6. Thompson (1) 0-0 57
7. St. John 1-0 55
8. Grafton 1-0 52
9. Oak Grove 0-0 48
10. Hillsboro-Central Valley (1) 1-0 42
Others Receiving Votes: Hetttinger-Scranton (2-0), Richland (1-0), Watford City (1-1), Dickinson Trinity (0-1), Hatton-Northwood (1-0), Langdon/Edmore/Munich (1-0), Maple Valley (1-0), New Town (1-0), Mott-Regent (1-0), Our Redeemer's (0-0).
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby packers21 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:09 pm

Run4Fun2009 wrote:FIRST POLL
Monday, December 11th

1. Stanley (8) 1-0 120
2. Shiloh Christian (2) 1-0 98
3. Beulah (2) 0-0 95
4. Bishop Ryan 1-0 92
5. Carrington 0-0 62
6. Thompson (1) 0-0 57
7. St. John 1-0 55
8. Grafton 1-0 52
9. Oak Grove 0-0 48
10. Hillsboro-Central Valley (1) 1-0 42
Others Receiving Votes: Hetttinger-Scranton (2-0), Richland (1-0), Watford City (1-1), Dickinson Trinity (0-1), Hatton-Northwood (1-0), Langdon/Edmore/Munich (1-0), Maple Valley (1-0), New Town (1-0), Mott-Regent (1-0), Our Redeemer's (0-0).


I know it’s the first poll, but, wow some of the sports writers need to do a better job.
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Mon Dec 11, 2017 8:17 pm

packers21 wrote:
Run4Fun2009 wrote:FIRST POLL
Monday, December 11th

1. Stanley (8) 1-0 120
2. Shiloh Christian (2) 1-0 98
3. Beulah (2) 0-0 95
4. Bishop Ryan 1-0 92
5. Carrington 0-0 62
6. Thompson (1) 0-0 57
7. St. John 1-0 55
8. Grafton 1-0 52
9. Oak Grove 0-0 48
10. Hillsboro-Central Valley (1) 1-0 42
Others Receiving Votes: Hetttinger-Scranton (2-0), Richland (1-0), Watford City (1-1), Dickinson Trinity (0-1), Hatton-Northwood (1-0), Langdon/Edmore/Munich (1-0), Maple Valley (1-0), New Town (1-0), Mott-Regent (1-0), Our Redeemer's (0-0).


I know it’s the first poll, but, wow some of the sports writers need to do a better job.


Less teams then the 1st GBB poll...most teams haven't played yet so it's hard to place anybody anywhere with nothing to compare to. The first poll is usually guided by the Hoopsters Top 24 or 40 ranking.
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby scc » Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:40 pm

packers21 wrote:
Run4Fun2009 wrote:FIRST POLL
Monday, December 11th

1. Stanley (8) 1-0 120
2. Shiloh Christian (2) 1-0 98
3. Beulah (2) 0-0 95
4. Bishop Ryan 1-0 92
5. Carrington 0-0 62
6. Thompson (1) 0-0 57
7. St. John 1-0 55
8. Grafton 1-0 52
9. Oak Grove 0-0 48
10. Hillsboro-Central Valley (1) 1-0 42
Others Receiving Votes: Hetttinger-Scranton (2-0), Richland (1-0), Watford City (1-1), Dickinson Trinity (0-1), Hatton-Northwood (1-0), Langdon/Edmore/Munich (1-0), Maple Valley (1-0), New Town (1-0), Mott-Regent (1-0), Our Redeemer's (0-0).


I know it’s the first poll, but, wow some of the sports writers need to do a better job.

How so?
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby packers21 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:18 am

scc wrote:
packers21 wrote:
Run4Fun2009 wrote:FIRST POLL
Monday, December 11th

1. Stanley (8) 1-0 120
2. Shiloh Christian (2) 1-0 98
3. Beulah (2) 0-0 95
4. Bishop Ryan 1-0 92
5. Carrington 0-0 62
6. Thompson (1) 0-0 57
7. St. John 1-0 55
8. Grafton 1-0 52
9. Oak Grove 0-0 48
10. Hillsboro-Central Valley (1) 1-0 42
Others Receiving Votes: Hetttinger-Scranton (2-0), Richland (1-0), Watford City (1-1), Dickinson Trinity (0-1), Hatton-Northwood (1-0), Langdon/Edmore/Munich (1-0), Maple Valley (1-0), New Town (1-0), Mott-Regent (1-0), Our Redeemer's (0-0).


I know it’s the first poll, but, wow some of the sports writers need to do a better job.

How so?


Well to start things off first pool one the girls side had about 30 teams on it, and then this one has teams that are no where close to a top team in the the state. It has teams that lost in the Region Champ and who return pretty much everyone RV or ranked 7! The fact that St. John is ranked 7 is hilarious! Get out and watch some more games, wait until a couple more weeks to put out a poll, or at the very least spend some time looking at who is coming back. Don't just randomly throw out a RV to anyone ole team.
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:36 am

I love when people get so bent out of shape over a Poll. Just like in FB or GBB...the first couple of polls are all over the place. Games are won on the court NOT by a poll on paper! Relax...polls are a group of people's opinions; if you disagree with the 'group' then explain why because every opinion helps to formulate the future polls. The boys 1st Poll was a better grouping of teams then the girls (IMO).
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby packers21 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:43 am

Run4Fun2009 wrote:I love when people get so bent out of shape over a Poll. Just like in FB or GBB...the first couple of polls are all over the place. Games are won on the court NOT by a poll on paper! Relax...polls are a group of people's opinions; if you disagree with the 'group' then explain why because every opinion helps to formulate the future polls. The boys 1st Poll was a better grouping of teams then the girls (IMO).



I am well aware of how games are won or lost. I gave my opinion and was asked to respond and I did, I am hardly bent out of shape over a poll. Thanks for the the input Aaron Rodgers.
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby Flying Wallenda » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:38 am

Run4Fun2009 wrote:FIRST POLL
Monday, December 11th

1. Stanley (8) 1-0 120
2. Shiloh Christian (2) 1-0 98
3. Beulah (2) 0-0 95
4. Bishop Ryan 1-0 92
5. Carrington 0-0 62
6. Thompson (1) 0-0 57
7. St. John 1-0 55
8. Grafton 1-0 52
9. Oak Grove 0-0 48
10. Hillsboro-Central Valley (1) 1-0 42
Others Receiving Votes: Hetttinger-Scranton (2-0), Richland (1-0), Watford City (1-1), Dickinson Trinity (0-1), Hatton-Northwood (1-0), Langdon/Edmore/Munich (1-0), Maple Valley (1-0), New Town (1-0), Mott-Regent (1-0), Our Redeemer's (0-0).

I actually think this poll isn't that far off - Ryan might be a bit high - I'm surprised to see Hatton-Northwood get votes - besides that not much I'd change - its early, pollsters are shooting from the hip at this point.
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby scc » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:52 am

Most of the teams in others receiving votes got a 10th place vote from 1 person. That's how it works, people. The top 10 is all that matters, as that's where you see a consensus. It's still early.

It's nice to see some debate, though.
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby packers21 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 11:08 am

I love the debate, I like being able to come on here and talk about some basketball. I know it only takes one vote for someone to get a RV, but still. It isn't that bad of a top 10, personally mine is different was more surprised with the RV list.
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby Brody N » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:50 pm

Minot Ryan In definitely a top five team in the state in my opinion. Shiloh at 2 seems to be a little high but we will see. Don’t know how Watford can receive votes when they lost to Hazen by 20 though, unless they voted before this game took place?
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby winner-within » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:29 pm

HCV could play Stanley this Friday and the game could go into overtime with an HCV win (who knows).....might not even change Stanleys rank in Poll #2
Grafton could beat Beulah next Monday if they had decided to play....then back to the voting and wall-a! somebody moved up or down........

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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby The Schwab » Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:54 pm

I don't understand what this has to do with anything? The people who vote for the poll pick who they feel are the top 10 teams in the state. I would say none of them have seen every team play that they vote for. Polls are fun conversation starters but that's about the end of it.
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby Brody N » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:39 pm

The Schwab wrote:I don't understand what this has to do with anything? The people who vote for the poll pick who they feel are the top 10 teams in the state. I would say none of them have seen every team play that they vote for. Polls are fun conversation starters but that's about the end of it.


Agreed 100% and that’s what we are doing isn’t it? Starting conversation about what we think about it and what we feel they got right and wrong. No one is right just fun to discuss!
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby The Schwab » Tue Dec 12, 2017 8:33 pm

Brody N wrote:
The Schwab wrote:I don't understand what this has to do with anything? The people who vote for the poll pick who they feel are the top 10 teams in the state. I would say none of them have seen every team play that they vote for. Polls are fun conversation starters but that's about the end of it.


Agreed 100% and that’s what we are doing isn’t it? Starting conversation about what we think about it and what we feel they got right and wrong. No one is right just fun to discuss!


Oh I agree with the discussion. Just didn't get what Winner was getting at.
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby winner-within » Thu Dec 14, 2017 11:57 am

The Schwab wrote:
Brody N wrote:
The Schwab wrote:I don't understand what this has to do with anything? The people who vote for the poll pick who they feel are the top 10 teams in the state. I would say none of them have seen every team play that they vote for. Polls are fun conversation starters but that's about the end of it.


Agreed 100% and that’s what we are doing isn’t it? Starting conversation about what we think about it and what we feel they got right and wrong. No one is right just fun to discuss!


Oh I agree with the discussion. Just didn't get what Winner was getting at.


I may have went overboard a bit :) ....but the scenarios I through out were examples of how it can and has went in the past or lets say since the beginning of time when it comes to polls in ND Class B Boys Basketball... polls are simply polls

I will say that they do usually get very close to reality as the season progresses but then like others have stated "you still have to play the game"

Ironically I say that this years 9-man football poll was spot on the last 5 polls and then #2 beat #1 when they met.....
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby B-oldtimer » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:38 pm

I think the early season polls usually have likely candidates that will be one of the top teams in the state. I believe not until we get into middle of January we get pretty good feel who the top teams are. Then I would like to say that at the end of the season we may have several teams that had several losses but because they were young team in the beginning it has taken them some time to jell but are becoming very good team. Also being rated in top ten doesn't mean much at the end of season because it may all come down to how you strong you are in your region. We have had where one region may have multiple rated teams but only one team is going to reach the state tournament. This brings to another thing about the polls I believe certain regions will always be represented more in the polls because being closer to the media than other regions. In the end final poll is the state tournament.
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby woodchuck10 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:59 pm

packers21 wrote:
scc wrote:
packers21 wrote:
Run4Fun2009 wrote:FIRST POLL
Monday, December 11th

1. Stanley (8) 1-0 120
2. Shiloh Christian (2) 1-0 98
3. Beulah (2) 0-0 95
4. Bishop Ryan 1-0 92
5. Carrington 0-0 62
6. Thompson (1) 0-0 57
7. St. John 1-0 55
8. Grafton 1-0 52
9. Oak Grove 0-0 48
10. Hillsboro-Central Valley (1) 1-0 42
Others Receiving Votes: Hetttinger-Scranton (2-0), Richland (1-0), Watford City (1-1), Dickinson Trinity (0-1), Hatton-Northwood (1-0), Langdon/Edmore/Munich (1-0), Maple Valley (1-0), New Town (1-0), Mott-Regent (1-0), Our Redeemer's (0-0).


I know it’s the first poll, but, wow some of the sports writers need to do a better job.

How so?


Well to start things off first pool one the girls side had about 30 teams on it, and then this one has teams that are no where close to a top team in the the state. It has teams that lost in the Region Champ and who return pretty much everyone RV or ranked 7! The fact that St. John is ranked 7 is hilarious! Get out and watch some more games, wait until a couple more weeks to put out a poll, or at the very least spend some time looking at who is coming back. Don't just randomly throw out a RV to anyone ole team.


Hilarious in what way? Up or down?
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:11 pm

St. John deserves to be in the poll...I thought all in Top 10 were worthy and could see the case for all RV teams. This week's poll will be interesting as there were some good matchups already
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Mon Dec 18, 2017 9:55 pm

SECOND POLL
Monday, December 18th

1. Stanley (10) 4-0 142
2. Beulah (2) 1-0 122
3. Bishop Ryan (1) 3-0 117
4. Thompson (1) 2-0 88
5. Carrington 2-0 79
6. St. John 4-0 67
7. Shiloh Christian 1-1 61
8. Grafton 3-0 41
9. Hillsboro-Central Valley (1) 2-0 39
10. Oak Grove 1-0 36
Others Receiving Votes: Hettinger-Scranton (5-0), Maple Valley (3-0), Dickinson Trinity (3-1), New Town (3-0), Cavalier (2-0), Our Redeemer's (3-0).
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby bsoldiergirl » Tue Dec 19, 2017 11:37 pm

The Des Lacs Burlington Lakers beat #2 Beulah 64-60. It came down to the last few seconds, what a hard fought game!
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby packers21 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:05 am

woodchuck10 wrote:
packers21 wrote:
scc wrote:
packers21 wrote:
Run4Fun2009 wrote:FIRST POLL
Monday, December 11th

1. Stanley (8) 1-0 120
2. Shiloh Christian (2) 1-0 98
3. Beulah (2) 0-0 95
4. Bishop Ryan 1-0 92
5. Carrington 0-0 62
6. Thompson (1) 0-0 57
7. St. John 1-0 55
8. Grafton 1-0 52
9. Oak Grove 0-0 48
10. Hillsboro-Central Valley (1) 1-0 42
Others Receiving Votes: Hetttinger-Scranton (2-0), Richland (1-0), Watford City (1-1), Dickinson Trinity (0-1), Hatton-Northwood (1-0), Langdon/Edmore/Munich (1-0), Maple Valley (1-0), New Town (1-0), Mott-Regent (1-0), Our Redeemer's (0-0).


I know it’s the first poll, but, wow some of the sports writers need to do a better job.

How so?


Well to start things off first pool one the girls side had about 30 teams on it, and then this one has teams that are no where close to a top team in the the state. It has teams that lost in the Region Champ and who return pretty much everyone RV or ranked 7! The fact that St. John is ranked 7 is hilarious! Get out and watch some more games, wait until a couple more weeks to put out a poll, or at the very least spend some time looking at who is coming back. Don't just randomly throw out a RV to anyone ole team.


Hilarious in what way? Up or down?


I think they are a top 3 team in the state. I hope they finally get there this year.
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby Brody N » Wed Dec 20, 2017 3:42 pm

packers21 wrote:
woodchuck10 wrote:
packers21 wrote:
scc wrote:
packers21 wrote:
Run4Fun2009 wrote:FIRST POLL
Monday, December 11th

1. Stanley (8) 1-0 120
2. Shiloh Christian (2) 1-0 98
3. Beulah (2) 0-0 95
4. Bishop Ryan 1-0 92
5. Carrington 0-0 62
6. Thompson (1) 0-0 57
7. St. John 1-0 55
8. Grafton 1-0 52
9. Oak Grove 0-0 48
10. Hillsboro-Central Valley (1) 1-0 42
Others Receiving Votes: Hetttinger-Scranton (2-0), Richland (1-0), Watford City (1-1), Dickinson Trinity (0-1), Hatton-Northwood (1-0), Langdon/Edmore/Munich (1-0), Maple Valley (1-0), New Town (1-0), Mott-Regent (1-0), Our Redeemer's (0-0).


I know it’s the first poll, but, wow some of the sports writers need to do a better job.

How so?


Well to start things off first pool one the girls side had about 30 teams on it, and then this one has teams that are no where close to a top team in the the state. It has teams that lost in the Region Champ and who return pretty much everyone RV or ranked 7! The fact that St. John is ranked 7 is hilarious! Get out and watch some more games, wait until a couple more weeks to put out a poll, or at the very least spend some time looking at who is coming back. Don't just randomly throw out a RV to anyone ole team.


Hilarious in what way? Up or down?


I think they are a top 3 team in the state. I hope they finally get there this year.


Agreed packers. St John will be very tough to beat by anyone in the state. McGillis is in my opinion the best player in the state.. and Prouty is very tough too. Barring a slip up they should be in the state where people can see how much of a travesty it was that Kyler McGillis was not an all stater last year.
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby woodchuck10 » Wed Dec 20, 2017 8:43 pm

packers21 wrote:
woodchuck10 wrote:
packers21 wrote:
scc wrote:
packers21 wrote:
Run4Fun2009 wrote:FIRST POLL
Monday, December 11th

1. Stanley (8) 1-0 120
2. Shiloh Christian (2) 1-0 98
3. Beulah (2) 0-0 95
4. Bishop Ryan 1-0 92
5. Carrington 0-0 62
6. Thompson (1) 0-0 57
7. St. John 1-0 55
8. Grafton 1-0 52
9. Oak Grove 0-0 48
10. Hillsboro-Central Valley (1) 1-0 42
Others Receiving Votes: Hetttinger-Scranton (2-0), Richland (1-0), Watford City (1-1), Dickinson Trinity (0-1), Hatton-Northwood (1-0), Langdon/Edmore/Munich (1-0), Maple Valley (1-0), New Town (1-0), Mott-Regent (1-0), Our Redeemer's (0-0).


I know it’s the first poll, but, wow some of the sports writers need to do a better job.

How so?


Well to start things off first pool one the girls side had about 30 teams on it, and then this one has teams that are no where close to a top team in the the state. It has teams that lost in the Region Champ and who return pretty much everyone RV or ranked 7! The fact that St. John is ranked 7 is hilarious! Get out and watch some more games, wait until a couple more weeks to put out a poll, or at the very least spend some time looking at who is coming back. Don't just randomly throw out a RV to anyone ole team.


Hilarious in what way? Up or down?


I think they are a top 3 team in the state. I hope they finally get there this year.


Shhhhhh......let’s not say where “there” is lol. Don’t want to jinx it.
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Re: 2017-18 Polls

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Tue Dec 26, 2017 8:00 pm

THIRD POLL
Tuesday, December 26th

1. Stanley (11) 5-0 159
2. Bishop Ryan (3) 4-0 139
3. Thompson (2) 4-0 138
4. St. John 6-0 108
5. Oak Grove 4-0 83
6. Hillsboro-Central Valley (1) 3-0 69
7. Carrington 3-1 57
8. Grafton 5-0 54
9. Shiloh Christian 1-1 50
10. Dickinson Trinity 4-1 20
Others Receiving Votes: Beulah (2-2), Maple Valley (5-0), Our Redeemer's (3-0), New Town (4-0), Hettinger-Scranton (5-1), Wyndmere-Lidgerwood (4-0), Mohall-Lansford-Sherwood (5-0), Bottineau (3-0), Solen (6-0).
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