Flip wrote:If someone were to say, "HCV is the best team in the state." Give me a case against it.
Bc I think they might just be the 3rd best team in the toughest region in the state.
Flip wrote:If someone were to say, "HCV is the best team in the state." Give me a case against it.
Flip wrote:If someone were to say, "HCV is the best team in the state." Give me a case against it.
Run4Fun2009 wrote:Flip wrote:If someone were to say, "HCV is the best team in the state." Give me a case against it.
We'll see who the best in the Region is next week when they play Thompson...then you can start comparing as Thompson has a big one against Bishop Ryan tomorrow (Saturday). This is a BIG couple of weeks for quality matchups and we'll see where teams are at during that 2nd week of January.
spins wrote:Seems like every year, at some point, there are at least 4 private schools ranked.
Why does this bother me so much?
I look at a team like MLS, who hasn't sniffed a top 10 or a state birth in many years. They have a legit chance of going to state this year if it were not for the 2 powerhouse private schools in their region. Oh well...maybe in 20 more years.
spins wrote:i dont mind schools like rugby, beulah, Stanley..ect.. competing with smaller schools. Thats still class B. The big difference is even the bigger enrollment schools have down years. All schools have ebbs and flows. The only consistent seems to be Shilo, Ryan, Oak Grove..ect. Give them there own class. Eliminate all private schools from class B and there is still 100 teams to compete for the true class B title.
I guess it annoys me more than it should.
packers21 wrote:Give them their own region and let them send one to state, 3 class system will happen way before that does tho
spins wrote:i dont mind schools like rugby, beulah, Stanley..ect.. competing with smaller schools. Thats still class B. The big difference is even the bigger enrollment schools have down years. All schools have ebbs and flows. The only consistent seems to be Shilo, Ryan, Oak Grove..ect. Give them there own class. Eliminate all private schools from class B and there is still 100 teams to compete for the true class B title.
I guess it annoys me more than it should.
OLDBBfAN wrote: I have been to Montana's Class B & C tournaments and there is no way you can tell me that our Class B is better.
OLDBBfAN wrote: I have been to Montana's Class B & C tournaments and there is no way you can tell me that our Class B is better.
Sportsrube wrote:OLDBBfAN wrote: I have been to Montana's Class B & C tournaments and there is no way you can tell me that our Class B is better.
I would say the same thing about the South Dakota B and A Tournaments. I believe the biggest issue the NDHSAA has with the 3 class system is that they would have to schedule state tournaments on 3 different weekends (actually 5 if the bottom 2 classes held separate state tournaments). It would be difficult to find enough venues and it would definitely affect TV broadcasts. The TV money for the state Class B tournaments has to be a major factor in the NDHSAA decision making in my opinion. Still, I would love to see all Privates moved up to Class A or a 3 class system.
Flying Wallenda wrote:spins wrote:i dont mind schools like rugby, beulah, Stanley..ect.. competing with smaller schools. Thats still class B. The big difference is even the bigger enrollment schools have down years. All schools have ebbs and flows. The only consistent seems to be Shilo, Ryan, Oak Grove..ect. Give them there own class. Eliminate all private schools from class B and there is still 100 teams to compete for the true class B title.
I guess it annoys me more than it should.
I think a lot of people are on your side with that one.
OLDBBfAN wrote:My point is that instead of complaining about the private schools push for a 3 Class system and put them all in the middle Class. With the split between Class A & B at 325 it is way out of wack with large Class A and small Class A. Even in Class B the larger schools seem to have the advantage year after year (this includes all the coops).
muley14 wrote:Take a look at the 19-20 football plan enrollment numbers. I realize coops may be a little different but I doubt it would change things much. Leave about 20 in the first division, put 32 in the second and maybe there are about 50 teams remaining. I count 2 privates in the top division, 2 in the second and 3 in the third. What does a 3 class system accomplish?
muley14 wrote:I don't believe the NDHSAA will (or should) create divisions by any other method than enrollment.
Take a look at the 19-20 football plan enrollment numbers. I realize coops may be a little different but I doubt it would change things much. Leave about 20 in the first division, put 32 in the second and maybe there are about 50 teams remaining. I count 2 privates in the top division, 2 in the second and 3 in the third. What does a 3 class system accomplish?
I cheer against the privates all the time too, but to say we are going to start putting classes together based on winning percentage is foolish. If that's the case let's just put everyone new regions every year: all the previous year region winners go into the same regions, runners up in another, etc.
I should ignore this topic but I'm tired of hearing that "my team doesn't win enough, my team really is good but the competition is just too hard."
muley14 wrote:Take a look at the 19-20 football plan enrollment numbers. I realize coops may be a little different but I doubt it would change things much. Leave about 20 in the first division, put 32 in the second and maybe there are about 50 teams remaining. I count 2 privates in the top division, 2 in the second and 3 in the third. What does a 3 class system accomplish?
ndlionsfan wrote:Shiloh didn't in the last go around...
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