maddog1971 wrote:I don't understand why these big Schools like CC would have to start all those young kids. Really? It shows me that the program itself is lacking in leadership. People are defending coaches all the time that they put the best kids on the court. Nobody can tell me out of 100 plus boys to choose from that they can not find 5 junior and senior boys that are better suited to play. I have many coaches that are friends and one point we argue all the time is why give away a couple seasons of basketball just to get your young kids experience so they are good when they are seniors.
leroybla wrote:ND Sports Fan wrote:To quote Dennis Green, Central Cass "is who we thought they were". Meaning, they are undiciplined, young, lack scoring punch, and lack direction. This appears to be a team that shows promise but doesn't deliver. They continue to show basic fundamental flaws that should ha e been easily correctable by now. At some point, you are what your record indicates. Their lack of structure and in game adjustments point to more than a talent deficiency.
It's important to remember that Central Cass starts 2 freshmen, 2 sophomores and a junior, against last night's opponent that started 4 (large) seniors and a freshman. CC has only one senior on the roster. And youthful players aren't as strong or as experienced, and are entitled to a bad game. When CC shoots well (they didn't last nite) they can be competitive.
ND Sports Fan wrote:leroybla wrote:ND Sports Fan wrote:To quote Dennis Green, Central Cass "is who we thought they were". Meaning, they are undiciplined, young, lack scoring punch, and lack direction. This appears to be a team that shows promise but doesn't deliver. They continue to show basic fundamental flaws that should ha e been easily correctable by now. At some point, you are what your record indicates. Their lack of structure and in game adjustments point to more than a talent deficiency.
It's important to remember that Central Cass starts 2 freshmen, 2 sophomores and a junior, against last night's opponent that started 4 (large) seniors and a freshman. CC has only one senior on the roster. And youthful players aren't as strong or as experienced, and are entitled to a bad game. When CC shoots well (they didn't last nite) they can be competitive.
Is this the goal? To be competitive?. I don't recall any record that shows wins, losses, and competed well. Maybe you shouldn't be only about winning, but when you say if this team shoots well they can be competitive, this is a squad that is currently 2 and 13 on the season, and is averaging right around 50 points or maybe even a shade under per game. They continually turn it over entirely too much and do not have a winning approach. At some point as stated before, this can't be about town deficiency. There has to be a question about preparedness, putting kids in the right position to be successful, and correcting those things that are correctable.
ND Sports Fan wrote:leroybla wrote:ND Sports Fan wrote:To quote Dennis Green, Central Cass "is who we thought they were". Meaning, they are undiciplined, young, lack scoring punch, and lack direction. This appears to be a team that shows promise but doesn't deliver. They continue to show basic fundamental flaws that should ha e been easily correctable by now. At some point, you are what your record indicates. Their lack of structure and in game adjustments point to more than a talent deficiency.
It's important to remember that Central Cass starts 2 freshmen, 2 sophomores and a junior, against last night's opponent that started 4 (large) seniors and a freshman. CC has only one senior on the roster. And youthful players aren't as strong or as experienced, and are entitled to a bad game. When CC shoots well (they didn't last nite) they can be competitive.
Is this the goal? To be competitive?. I don't recall any record that shows wins, losses, and competed well. Maybe you shouldn't be only about winning, but when you say if this team shoots well they can be competitive, this is a squad that is currently 2 and 13 on the season, and is averaging right around 50 points or maybe even a shade under per game. They continually turn it over entirely too much and do not have a winning approach. At some point as stated before, this can't be about town deficiency. There has to be a question about preparedness, putting kids in the right position to be successful, and correcting those things that are correctable.
leroybla wrote:ND Sports Fan wrote:leroybla wrote:ND Sports Fan wrote:To quote Dennis Green, Central Cass "is who we thought they were". Meaning, they are undiciplined, young, lack scoring punch, and lack direction. This appears to be a team that shows promise but doesn't deliver. They continue to show basic fundamental flaws that should ha e been easily correctable by now. At some point, you are what your record indicates. Their lack of structure and in game adjustments point to more than a talent deficiency.
It's important to remember that Central Cass starts 2 freshmen, 2 sophomores and a junior, against last night's opponent that started 4 (large) seniors and a freshman. CC has only one senior on the roster. And youthful players aren't as strong or as experienced, and are entitled to a bad game. When CC shoots well (they didn't last nite) they can be competitive.
Is this the goal? To be competitive?. I don't recall any record that shows wins, losses, and competed well. Maybe you shouldn't be only about winning, but when you say if this team shoots well they can be competitive, this is a squad that is currently 2 and 13 on the season, and is averaging right around 50 points or maybe even a shade under per game. They continually turn it over entirely too much and do not have a winning approach. At some point as stated before, this can't be about town deficiency. There has to be a question about preparedness, putting kids in the right position to be successful, and correcting those things that are correctable.
Note also that Watford City has a 3-14 record but shares a characteristic with Central Cass - they both play much tougher competition as evidenced by their Strength of Schedule rating (SOS).
pterodactyl5 wrote:I can see PRFL coming out of region 2. After watching them play against a tough Hcv team and Grafton. They look like a top tier team. Adam.Z is playing very well, Jace Jelhicka is starting to hit shots that he didn’t at the beginning of the year. keep an eye on PRFL.
pterodactyl5 wrote:I can see PRFL coming out of region 2. After watching them play against a tough Hcv team and Grafton. They look like a top tier team. Adam.Z is playing very well, Jace Jelhicka is starting to hit shots that he didn’t at the beginning of the year. Keep an eye on PRFL.
bigballer69 wrote:pterodactyl5 wrote:I can see PRFL coming out of region 2. After watching them play against a tough Hcv team and Grafton. They look like a top tier team. Adam.Z is playing very well, Jace Jelhicka is starting to hit shots that he didn’t at the beginning of the year. Keep an eye on PRFL.
Definitely agree with this. This is a team that's getting better every game and led by someone who deserves coach of the year in only his second season.
theman wrote:leroybla wrote:ND Sports Fan wrote:leroybla wrote:ND Sports Fan wrote:To quote Dennis Green, Central Cass "is who we thought they were". Meaning, they are undiciplined, young, lack scoring punch, and lack direction. This appears to be a team that shows promise but doesn't deliver. They continue to show basic fundamental flaws that should ha e been easily correctable by now. At some point, you are what your record indicates. Their lack of structure and in game adjustments point to more than a talent deficiency.
It's important to remember that Central Cass starts 2 freshmen, 2 sophomores and a junior, against last night's opponent that started 4 (large) seniors and a freshman. CC has only one senior on the roster. And youthful players aren't as strong or as experienced, and are entitled to a bad game. When CC shoots well (they didn't last nite) they can be competitive.
Is this the goal? To be competitive?. I don't recall any record that shows wins, losses, and competed well. Maybe you shouldn't be only about winning, but when you say if this team shoots well they can be competitive, this is a squad that is currently 2 and 13 on the season, and is averaging right around 50 points or maybe even a shade under per game. They continually turn it over entirely too much and do not have a winning approach. At some point as stated before, this can't be about town deficiency. There has to be a question about preparedness, putting kids in the right position to be successful, and correcting those things that are correctable.
Note also that Watford City has a 3-14 record but shares a characteristic with Central Cass - they both play much tougher competition as evidenced by their Strength of Schedule rating (SOS).
New Town and Dunseith both have a stronger SOS than CC but they are 15-2/13-4 respectively. What's your point?
leroybla wrote:theman wrote:leroybla wrote:ND Sports Fan wrote:leroybla wrote:ND Sports Fan wrote:To quote Dennis Green, Central Cass "is who we thought they were". Meaning, they are undiciplined, young, lack scoring punch, and lack direction. This appears to be a team that shows promise but doesn't deliver. They continue to show basic fundamental flaws that should ha e been easily correctable by now. At some point, you are what your record indicates. Their lack of structure and in game adjustments point to more than a talent deficiency.
It's important to remember that Central Cass starts 2 freshmen, 2 sophomores and a junior, against last night's opponent that started 4 (large) seniors and a freshman. CC has only one senior on the roster. And youthful players aren't as strong or as experienced, and are entitled to a bad game. When CC shoots well (they didn't last nite) they can be competitive.
Is this the goal? To be competitive?. I don't recall any record that shows wins, losses, and competed well. Maybe you shouldn't be only about winning, but when you say if this team shoots well they can be competitive, this is a squad that is currently 2 and 13 on the season, and is averaging right around 50 points or maybe even a shade under per game. They continually turn it over entirely too much and do not have a winning approach. At some point as stated before, this can't be about town deficiency. There has to be a question about preparedness, putting kids in the right position to be successful, and correcting those things that are correctable.
Note also that Watford City has a 3-14 record but shares a characteristic with Central Cass - they both play much tougher competition as evidenced by their Strength of Schedule rating (SOS).
New Town and Dunseith both have a stronger SOS than CC but they are 15-2/13-4 respectively. What's your point?
Look, I can't recall CC having a losing season in the past 30 years. Give them a break. Most all players play meaningful minutes every nite, but only 5 can start. BTW, neither NewTown nor Dunseith field wrestling teams as do CC and WC. All four schools are of similar size.
maddog1971 wrote:What every happen to a coach adjusting to the style of play of the players they have on the floor. If you are fast, athletic and not much skill.... press and run as hard as you can the whole game. Good things will happen. If you can not shoot.... well do not run a shooting offense. I am sick of these kids that get put in with young men and get bad habits.... like living behind the 3 point line.... And yes... I am referencing Enderlin and Northern Cass. Let those young kids grow up playing kids their age.
I was a young kid that played at an early age and got my butt beat up all the time. I was 6'2 and strong as an 8th grader. I started closing my eyes when I went in the paint because I did not want to get him in the face. Getting my butt chewed because I could not box out the older bigger kids.
The Keller kid from Kindred. The older kids beat on him enough where he can not go up strong and finish line he should. Bad habits.
balla45 wrote:maddog1971 wrote:What every happen to a coach adjusting to the style of play of the players they have on the floor. If you are fast, athletic and not much skill.... press and run as hard as you can the whole game. Good things will happen. If you can not shoot.... well do not run a shooting offense. I am sick of these kids that get put in with young men and get bad habits.... like living behind the 3 point line.... And yes... I am referencing Enderlin and Northern Cass. Let those young kids grow up playing kids their age.
I was a young kid that played at an early age and got my butt beat up all the time. I was 6'2 and strong as an 8th grader. I started closing my eyes when I went in the paint because I did not want to get him in the face. Getting my butt chewed because I could not box out the older bigger kids.
The Keller kid from Kindred. The older kids beat on him enough where he can not go up strong and finish line he should. Bad habits.
I do not know Kindred's coach. I know Enderlin's coach and he does a nice job. What would you prefer that Kindred's coach does with Keller? What is the benefit of playing a kid at a level where he is completely dominant. You don't learn to go up strong by going up against people that can not stop you and are physically inferior. You learn how to go up against strength and size by going up against strength and size. Joe Hurlburt is going to be D1. I imagine he gets little going up against small town kids his own age. "Why waste a year doing that when he is competitive playing varsity basketball? Its a bit different with girls basketball, but I live in Bismarck where there is a rule that players are not allowed to play up in junior high. There is currently a 6'4" sophomore in Bismarck who got 0 out of playing school basketball as a 7th and 8th grader, and I would say the same for another 7th grade girl in Bismarck who is probably going to be D1. Let the talented kids play at a level where they are challenged. I am sure that junior Gavin Keller or sophomore Joe Hurlburt will be a lot better at that age because of the challenges that their coaches are putting on them now. Not a lot is gained by getting 25 a game against players your own age when you are 6 inches taller than all of them.
hoophoophoop wrote:lenny live i been sitting in the weeds waiting to see enderlin play, they are nice players but enderlin dont hold a candle to the 4 sophmores and a junior that start for richland, when the kids get back and they will, Richland is the best team in region 1, by the way the hulburts kid will not be d-1, hes a 6'7 kid playing region 1, grant it 8th grade but anyone who knows basketball will understand
hoophoophoop wrote:lenny live i been sitting in the weeds waiting to see enderlin play, they are nice players but enderlin dont hold a candle to the 4 sophmores and a junior that start for richland, when the kids get back and they will, Richland is the best team in region 1, by the way the hulburts kid will not be d-1, hes a 6'7 kid playing region 1, grant it 8th grade but anyone who knows basketball will understand
hoophoophoop wrote:lenny live i been sitting in the weeds waiting to see enderlin play, they are nice players but enderlin dont hold a candle to the 4 sophmores and a junior that start for richland, when the kids get back and they will, Richland is the best team in region 1, by the way the hulburts kid will not be d-1, hes a 6'7 kid playing region 1, grant it 8th grade but anyone who knows basketball will understand
balla45 wrote:hoophoophoop wrote:lenny live i been sitting in the weeds waiting to see enderlin play, they are nice players but enderlin dont hold a candle to the 4 sophmores and a junior that start for richland, when the kids get back and they will, Richland is the best team in region 1, by the way the hulburts kid will not be d-1, hes a 6'7 kid playing region 1, grant it 8th grade but anyone who knows basketball will understand
Lol let us pretend Hurlburt did not already visit Creighton and Wisconsin. I am done commenting on this topic.
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