The Schwab wrote:If refs called the game the way the rule book states, there would be a lot more fouls called during the course of the game then people are used to.
HONKER wrote:The Schwab wrote:If refs called the game the way the rule book states, there would be a lot more fouls called during the course of the game then people are used to.
The players would adjust. All 6 fouls would do is help the teams with a much deeper, better bench.
wan2bqb wrote:So your in favor of 6 fouls?? Then what? Go to an NBA style 3 maybe 4 steps, as long as your going towards the hoop? How about your only required to put the ball on the ground and dribble, IF you cant carry it the length of the floor in a couple strides? Teams could institute the hack a shaq because most high school teams only go 8 deep so that gives you an extra 42 fouls to use, against that one regional team that was lucky they have a kid that is 6'5" and can catch, after all they don't have an answer for him and they have worked all year to get here. How about the teams with the really quick kids have to tie their shoelaces together so that the other team can keep up, after all they have been working all year to get here. Call the game how it should be called consistently, kids will learn to play defense, don't fall for the flops and over reactions like the kids just got his hand chopped of by a samurai, call a foul a foul, a carry a carry, a double dribble what it it and the kids will adjust or they will have the best seat in the house right next to the coach.
HONKER wrote:The Schwab wrote:If refs called the game the way the rule book states, there would be a lot more fouls called during the course of the game then people are used to.
The players would adjust. All 6 fouls would do is help the teams with a much deeper, better bench.
d_fense wrote:HONKER wrote:The Schwab wrote:If refs called the game the way the rule book states, there would be a lot more fouls called during the course of the game then people are used to.
The players would adjust. All 6 fouls would do is help the teams with a much deeper, better bench.
Honker, please explain to me why 6 fouls would help the team with the better, deeper bench. To me, it would do the exact opposite. It would help the team with a weak bench that could not afford to have a starter sit...
heimer wrote:I think, for Class B boys basketball only, we should go to eight fouls and expand to 12 minute quarters. We clearly need longer games so we can sell more as time for TV coverage, since that is what drives every single athletic effort in North Dakota ever ever ever.
ReadyToPlay wrote:Anyone on board with going to 6 fouls instead of 5? It seems to me that if a game changing player gets one touchy foul combined with a legit one in the first half, the coach out of necessity almost has to sit him. There are many times, especially in tournament play where the stakes are high, allowing 6 fouls wouldn't be a bad idea, IMO, since they have worked their tails off all year to get there.
ReadyToPlay wrote:Calculations are correct, but not apples to apples as NBA has a whole different look on life. They definitely need a travel agent and any fouls have to be really life threatening combined with a scream. The NBA ref's favorite activity is the replay booth.
Getting back to the 6 foul concept, I still see nothing wrong with allowing 6 fouls in a state tournament only. If a foul situation to just one key player on the smaller team handicaps them, the game probably is then lost and there goes their season. It is just not sitting the player on the bench with loss of playing time, it also affects the whole team as when he gets back in, he is limited on being aggressive to go after a loose ball, a rebound, a steal, etc.....Nothing worse than going to a high profile game because of one questionable call and the rest of the game is downhill. Give them one perk for even making state as it would absolutely not hurt anyone but would keep your best team on the floor so there would be no excuses and then the true winner would be the victor!
ReadyToPlay wrote:Calculations are correct, but not apples to apples as NBA has a whole different look on life. They definitely need a travel agent and any fouls have to be really life threatening combined with a scream. The NBA ref's favorite activity is the replay booth.
Getting back to the 6 foul concept, I still see nothing wrong with allowing 6 fouls in a state tournament only. If a foul situation to just one key player on the smaller team handicaps them, the game probably is then lost and there goes their season. It is just not sitting the player on the bench with loss of playing time, it also affects the whole team as when he gets back in, he is limited on being aggressive to go after a loose ball, a rebound, a steal, etc.....Nothing worse than going to a high profile game because of one questionable call and the rest of the game is downhill. Give them one perk for even making state as it would absolutely not hurt anyone but would keep your best team on the floor so there would be no excuses and then the true winner would be the victor!
ReadyToPlay wrote:To restate about small, it was meant to be like Tiny school, like the following recap.. one bad call, whether it be a controversial foul or violation, has a lot of true basketball fans muddering to themselves.
"What if?"
Class B power Hillsboro nipped tiny Epping 56-52 for the 1977 Class B state boys basketball championship, a game that captivated the state’s basketball fans.
“It was probably the ultimate David vs. Goliath,” said Dave Nelson, a senior on that Hillsboro team and now the head coach at May-Port-CG. “We were one of the bigger schools, and they were one of the smaller schools.”
However, that basket was disallowed after referee Henry Milkey called Don Allard for palming the ball, a call that remains controversial.
“And still to this day, there is the one call from Henry Milkey that turned the game around,” Bob Allard said.
stir the pot wrote:ReadyToPlay wrote:To restate about small, it was meant to be like Tiny school, like the following recap.. one bad call, whether it be a controversial foul or violation, has a lot of true basketball fans muddering to themselves.
"What if?"
Class B power Hillsboro nipped tiny Epping 56-52 for the 1977 Class B state boys basketball championship, a game that captivated the state’s basketball fans.
“It was probably the ultimate David vs. Goliath,” said Dave Nelson, a senior on that Hillsboro team and now the head coach at May-Port-CG. “We were one of the bigger schools, and they were one of the smaller schools.”
However, that basket was disallowed after referee Henry Milkey called Don Allard for palming the ball, a call that remains controversial.
“And still to this day, there is the one call from Henry Milkey that turned the game around,” Bob Allard said.
We all need to quit picking on the refs.
Epping may have not even made the championship game if they had't got a couple of calls go their way in their quarter final game. That game went into overtime.
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