Bigbrew22 wrote:6 teams that represent 5.5% of class b makes up an average of 25% of the state b tourney over the last 12 years. Because they are such a small group with one thing in common and high frequency of state appearances leads people to believe things are not as equal as the NDHSAA wants us to believe. On the bright side the other 94.5% of teams in class b have held them to only 2 state championships in the last 12 years. Now how can you tell real class b townspeople not to be irritated with those facts.
Bisonguy06 wrote:Bigbrew22 wrote:6 teams that represent 5.5% of class b makes up an average of 25% of the state b tourney over the last 12 years. Because they are such a small group with one thing in common and high frequency of state appearances leads people to believe things are not as equal as the NDHSAA wants us to believe. On the bright side the other 94.5% of teams in class b have held them to only 2 state championships in the last 12 years. Now how can you tell real class b townspeople not to be irritated with those facts.
You are correct that the private schools have 25% of the state tournament berths from 2006 to 2017. 24 out of 96, for 25%.
However, the same could be said for the following group of six schools:
Four Winds (7 state appearances)
Linton (4)
North Star (4)
Berthold (3)
Turtle Lake-Mercer (3)
Parshall (3)
Total of 24 appearances
And this particular group leads the private schools in state championships over the same period of time, 3 to 2.
Bisonguy06 wrote:In Region 4, where there are no private schools, Four Winds and North Star have claimed 11 of 12 berths. Again, erasing private schools does not necessarily create more opportunities for more schools.
Bisonguy06 wrote:Here is my question: what would it take to get us to a place where people would say "Shiloh is a beast of its own, good for them."?
If we went to three classes, would that do it? Or would these still be the same six teams to root against?
Bigbrew22 wrote:Just curious how much a parochial school coach gets paid? Small town public school coaches don't make much they get compensated for volunteering more or less. Is it the same for parochial schools or can they afford to hire a coach outright?
Bisonguy06 wrote:In Region 4, where there are no private schools, Four Winds and North Star have claimed 11 of 12 berths. Again, erasing private schools does not necessarily create more opportunities for more schools.
Edit: I counted again and found north star with three appearances rather than four. North Star and four winds have claimed 10 of 12. Whatever the facts are, I am trying to get them right.
Flip wrote:http://northdakotapreps.com/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=13055
here is a thread created about this time last year that has some 3 class proposals. I think if you had to go strictly by enrollment most/all of the private schools would opt up.
mnnd wrote:b-oldtimer- respectful post and certainly can see the points of 3 classes. I don't have the history of ND Class B over the decades to compare to but would agree that year in and year out a successful basketball program is more likely at a private school due to the early-beginning playing of the players, summer league availability and would argue the quality of the coaching staff.
My initial post on this was not to suggest 2 class vs 3 class is better/worse or whom should be in a 3 class system...only to state that as an OG parent, I have many friends who are parents of other R1 players that our son has played AAU with our gotten to know at camps, etc and find us rooting for them hopefully as much as they would root for us.
Someone replied that whatever I could present as info would never change their mind on the private vs public question...fair enough...won't try but I can tell you that our son and his teammates have received numerous textes from R1 players wishing them luck this week....perhaps that says more than I could ever write.
UNDSiouxfan wrote:There is no dilemma and that's an easy question... anyone but Dickinson, Minot, or Fargo. And to answer your question more clearly, there are Region 1 fans and there are Fargo fans. Region 1 fans cheer on the small towns and we do not cheer for Fargo. Conversely, I do not know of a single Fargo fan that will ever cheer for anyone but their coveted Grovers.
hoophoophoop wrote:IMO, I'm from Richland and a 3 class system would ruin basketball, not everyone was meant to go to state, I would take more pleasure in beating the bigger schools than going to state beating smaller schools. We had a shot this year but didn't work out, the better team won. Plus it only takes 3 to 4 really good players to put a good team together, look at Milnor couple years back, that's how it is suppose to be.
hoophoophoop wrote:IMO, I'm from Richland and a 3 class system would ruin basketball, not everyone was meant to go to state, I would take more pleasure in beating the bigger schools than going to state beating smaller schools. We had a shot this year but didn't work out, the better team won. Plus it only takes 3 to 4 really good players to put a good team together, look at Milnor couple years back, that's how it is suppose to be.
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