2015 STATE TOURNEY

[Lion42]

Whoever wins the game between rugby and Oak Grove will have the refs to thank.....

I'd say wait to see how the second half goes before making that call. I would say it's been equally "touchy" for both sides so far. Hopefully the teams and the refs regroup during halftime and have a clean, competitive 2nd half.

[nolan4]

Whoever wins the game between rugby and Oak Grove will have the refs to thank.....

I'd say wait to see how the second half goes before making that call. I would say it's been equally "touchy" for both sides so far. Hopefully the teams and the refs regroup during halftime and have a clean, competitive 2nd half.

Agreed, but i hate a perfect matchup like this having calls that are touchy or in some cases phantom......it can and will ruin a great matchup.

[bsoldiergirl]

Whoever wins the game between rugby and Oak Grove will have the refs to thank.....

I'd say wait to see how the second half goes before making that call. I would say it's been equally "touchy" for both sides so far. Hopefully the teams and the refs regroup during halftime and have a clean, competitive 2nd half.

Agreed, but i hate a perfect matchup like this having calls that are touchy or in some cases phantom......it can and will ruin a great matchup.

Well....Same thing...Different half

[nolan4]

I am cheering on Rugby, but this is making me sick!!

[bsoldiergirl]

I am cheering on Rugby, but this is making me sick!!

Couldn't agree more nolan4

[Edger]

This is terrible reffing on both ends. The worst. Feeling bad for both teams.

[THEGODFATHER]

This officiating is terrible, I agree

[nolan4]

Well if the refs wanted to be noticed , they were

[Pit Bull]

WOW....10 fouls in the first 4 min. in Rugby Oak Grove game.

Well, I seen this afternoons games and second game was terribly reffed, and so far this games is, they are not letting them play at all, and i am not saying it is favoring anyone, but this afternoon it did........with that said, one coach got on the refs bad after a game, but the coach needs to look at himself, I have seen one poor coach out of the 8, and he got on the refs the worst. IMO

I am curious on what team the reffing affected in the afternoon game?

Rugby vs. Oak Grove was called too tight, but IMO the best team won and the calls went both ways. Tough to watch a game when it is stopped every possesion, but the players need to adjust their games to the officiating. This game no one did. I believe the best two teams won the afternoon games also. So no matter how bad or good the games were called so far today, the best teams still came out on top.

[Piranha]

At least the refs didn't determine the outcome, the better team won.

[MTfan4life]

With 8 media timeouts, three quarter breaks, the team timeouts, and the 47 fouls, that was one of the least rhythmic games I have ever seen.

[noles4ever]

All I can say is OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bsoldiergirl]

WOW....10 fouls in the first 4 min. in Rugby Oak Grove game.

Well, I seen this afternoons games and second game was terribly reffed, and so far this games is, they are not letting them play at all, and i am not saying it is favoring anyone, but this afternoon it did........with that said, one coach got on the refs bad after a game, but the coach needs to look at himself, I have seen one poor coach out of the 8, and he got on the refs the worst. IMO

I am curious on what team the reffing affected in the afternoon game?

Rugby vs. Oak Grove was called too tight, but IMO the best team won and the calls went both ways. Tough to watch a game when it is stopped every possesion, but the players need to adjust their games to the officiating. This game no one did. I believe the best two teams won the afternoon games also. So no matter how bad or good the games were called so far today, the best teams still came out on top.

You're right, it was called tight on both sides of the ball. I think the best team did win and deserves to be in the championship! I think Rugby did a good job of adjusting in the 4th quarter while OG seemed to be reduced to a one man show

[Old Drifter]

Whoever wins the game between rugby and Oak Grove will have the refs to thank.....

I'd say wait to see how the second half goes before making that call. I would say it's been equally "touchy" for both sides so far. Hopefully the teams and the refs regroup during halftime and have a clean, competitive 2nd half.

It didn't matter how the 2nd half went. The refs already had done their damage and dictated HOW the 2nd half was played by the ungodly amount of fouls they called. Both teams had to adjust and couldn't play THEIR game. The reffing also made the 4winds-Shiloh game yesterday closer then it should have been by all those ticky-tacky fouls...

[Pit Bull]

Whoever wins the game between rugby and Oak Grove will have the refs to thank.....

I'd say wait to see how the second half goes before making that call. I would say it's been equally "touchy" for both sides so far. Hopefully the teams and the refs regroup during halftime and have a clean, competitive 2nd half.

It didn't matter how the 2nd half went. The refs already had done their damage and dictated HOW the 2nd half was played by the ungodly amount of fouls they called. Both teams had to adjust and couldn't play THEIR game. The reffing also made the 4winds-Shiloh game yesterday closer then it should have been by all those ticky-tacky fouls...

That is your opinion. Everyone has an opinion on every game. Usually our opinions are bias for our teams, if not always. I thought the game was called in 4 winds favor IMO, but it didn't affect the outcome. Shiloh had 3 or 4 starters with 4 fouls and the other with 3, so hard to convince me that the officiating had an effect on the final score.

[nolan4]

I was actually pretty happy how the games were called yesterday, since the Rugby game wasnt close, i didnt pay particular attention to how that one went, today has been a different story, so far in this second game , early, it is being called well.

[Old Drifter]

Whoever wins the game between rugby and Oak Grove will have the refs to thank.....

I'd say wait to see how the second half goes before making that call. I would say it's been equally "touchy" for both sides so far. Hopefully the teams and the refs regroup during halftime and have a clean, competitive 2nd half.

It didn't matter how the 2nd half went. The refs already had done their damage and dictated HOW the 2nd half was played by the ungodly amount of fouls they called. Both teams had to adjust and couldn't play THEIR game. The reffing also made the 4winds-Shiloh game yesterday closer then it should have been by all those ticky-tacky fouls...

That is your opinion. Everyone has an opinion on every game. Usually our opinions are bias for our teams, if not always. I thought the game was called in 4 winds favor IMO, but it didn't affect the outcome. Shiloh had 3 or 4 starters with 4 fouls and the other with 3, so hard to convince me that the officiating had an effect on the final score.

And as you say, your opinion was the officiating didn't matter and I don't agree...Shiloh may have had those fouls but that was at the end of the game after officiating already HAD gourd on the bench with 4 fouls by the 2nd qtr and fouled out at the end plus having the others playing tentatively due to their fouls. And fyi, I didnt have a dog in the hunt in those games I mentioned. My teams playing for the consolation Championship tomorrow...

[bsoldiergirl]

Is this Olson kid even human? His play is unbelievable........Instant Fan!!!

[RedDirtFan]

Why are the announcers (both tv and radio ) still referring to the ( over the back foul ) is that a pushing foul?

Unfortunately, this is no requirement that those who broadcast games actually know the rulebook. It's unfortunate, and it's part of the reason that misinformation is perpetually rampant.

[RedDirtFan]

I am all for calling out officials when their miscalls affect individual players, but 99.9% of the time the better team wins the game. That is what should matter most, and only once so far in this tournament have I seen a toss-up for who the better team was (LLM-New England), and the officiating did not affect that game. That should say something about it.

Can we drop this? When the better team was definitive in this tournament, they have won.

[Old Drifter]

Geebus....that Olsen kids beating 4 winds by himself...I admt I didn't pay much attention to LLM but they're for real...the dark horse that might give rugby fits...not sure if they've got the firepower to beat them though...

[RedDirtFan]

Well, this game showed why new-age basketball is overshadowing old school tactics. Shoot. Shoot. Shoot. Hope it falls in. If it doesn't, keep shooting. A lot of people don't like it, but it works when you teach kids how to shoot from an early age.

[Old Drifter]

Hellava game! LLM's a FINE team. I'm not so sure of 4 Winds chances tomorrow after seeing them struggle during the tournament...rugby seems to be on cruise right now but not sure if it is their bracket or if they're simply so good they make anyone/everyone look bad...

[Sportsrube]

I think LLM beats Oak Grove for third tomorrow and Rugby wins the rematch with Four Winds. So far this has been a very good tournament, even though the Rugby-OG game was a bit hard to watch with all the fouls. (Hope those 3 refs brought an extra whistle along because they wore them out in this game!) Too bad they don't televise the consolation games because I think those will be some good games too.

[Sticks11]

I think LLM beats Oak Grove for third tomorrow and Rugby wins the rematch with Four Winds. So far this has been a very good tournament, even though the Rugby-OG game was a bit hard to watch with all the fouls. (Hope those 3 refs brought an extra whistle along because they wore them out in this game!) Too bad they don't televise the consolation games because I think those will be some good games too.

Haha. Love it. Have to hope for a little more flow tomorrow night than there was in the Rugby-OG game.