wan2bqb wrote:sportsfan25 wrote:d_fense wrote:I didn't feel that Milnor's win over Oak Grove was an upset at the time. Milnor started the year out 2/4. I believe. After they figured things out, they were a different team. One of those 4 early losses was to OG in the first game of the year. 2 things I remember that stand out in that game. Bussman for Milnor made 13 of 14 shots and the big thing was the teams combined for 74 points in the 3rd quarter. OG outscored Milnor in the 3rd 44/30. It was ridiculous.
I'm not sure where you got that score info, but the game was 73-70 for a final and half of those points weren't scored in the 3rd quarter. This site http://www.maxpreps.com/games/basketbal ... xf657g.htm gives the breakdown of stats from that game. There were 39 points in the 3rd quarter with Milnor having a 23-16 advantage. You can tell by the box score, it was a pretty back and forth contest the whole way. I was at the game and the Milnor fans went crazy when OG missed the 3 at the buzzer. There was definitely something special about that team.
I believe d_fense is referring to this game http://www.maxpreps.com/games/basketbal ... FxuA5g.htm.
d_fense wrote:Missing a few or listing way to many??? First off you list players from 3 different graduating classes. What you tend (usually) to think of is a player their senior year which is usually their best. What was being discussed originally was the 12-13 season. In that season Kretchman and Adams were not even starters. In all likelihood there are freshman and sophomores this season who will be pretty good players by their senior years. A number of players you mentioned, when at their best I would not considered any better than good players. In that list I would include Griffith, Landon Mund, Workin, Bachmeir, Meehl, and Peterson. . Illies wouldn’t be the best player this year. I thought he was a superior athlete that played basketball. I think Richman falls short for me too. Big, great leaper, but didn’t do enough to be the best this year. I think Hasleau was phenomenal his senior year, but his junior year I’m not sure he wouldn’t be the best this year, but I’d give it to him because I liked his game so much. Younger players could learn so much by watching him. Bussman was very good, I thought the best player on his team. I think he would be the best player in the region if he played this year. I’m not sure what to think about Wyatt Mund. I think he could have been the player of the year his senior year. But, if he would have tried to do that, Milnor would not have had the years they did his final 2 seasons. I think their needs to be a go to player and Bussman was that player in part because Mund was a team first guy. Lindgren’s junior year 12/13 he wouldn’t have been the best this year. But, I thought he was so very much improved his senior year. I believe he would be the best if he were a senior this year. I look at Bresnahan just like Lingren. No in 12/13 but yes in 13/14. Burns.... I’m not sure what to say. For sure no in 12/13 and I would probably say no in 13/14. There’s no question he could score but I didn’t think of him as highly as some of the others in 13/14, probably because he played for a pretty poor team.
Of the players you listed, and I don’t think you missed anyone who should have been mentioned to only players I would say would be clearly the best player in the region this year if their 12/13 self was playing this year would be Bussman, Hasleau, and Wyatt Mund. If you moved to the following year I think you could add Kretchman, Lindgren, and Bresnahan.
district2fanog wrote:who is going to state? I will say Enderlin, Hankinson, or OG. Coach Card might be hiding a few tricks up his sleeve come tourney time.....
I can definitely see OG as capable of giving higher seeds a scare but it doesn't feel like they can put 4 games together based in this seasons results. However, anything can happen as we have seen of late. Are people forgetting about MNS?district2fanog wrote:who is going to state? I will say Enderlin, Hankinson, or OG. Coach Card might be hiding a few tricks up his sleeve come tourney time.....
EHS1998 wrote:I can definitely see OG as capable of giving higher seeds a scare but it doesn't feel like they can put 4 games together based in this seasons results. However, anything can happen as we have seen of late. Are people forgetting about MNS?district2fanog wrote:who is going to state? I will say Enderlin, Hankinson, or OG. Coach Card might be hiding a few tricks up his sleeve come tourney time.....
d_fense wrote:Missing a few or listing way to many??? First off you list players from 3 different graduating classes. What you tend (usually) to think of is a player their senior year which is usually their best. What was being discussed originally was the 12-13 season. In that season Kretchman and Adams were not even starters. In all likelihood there are freshman and sophomores this season who will be pretty good players by their senior years. A number of players you mentioned, when at their best I would not considered any better than good players. In that list I would include Griffith, Landon Mund, Workin, Bachmeir, Meehl, and Peterson. . Illies wouldn’t be the best player this year. I thought he was a superior athlete that played basketball. I think Richman falls short for me too. Big, great leaper, but didn’t do enough to be the best this year. I think Hasleau was phenomenal his senior year, but his junior year I’m not sure he wouldn’t be the best this year, but I’d give it to him because I liked his game so much. Younger players could learn so much by watching him. Bussman was very good, I thought the best player on his team. I think he would be the best player in the region if he played this year. I’m not sure what to think about Wyatt Mund. I think he could have been the player of the year his senior year. But, if he would have tried to do that, Milnor would not have had the years they did his final 2 seasons. I think their needs to be a go to player and Bussman was that player in part because Mund was a team first guy. Lindgren’s junior year 12/13 he wouldn’t have been the best this year. But, I thought he was so very much improved his senior year. I believe he would be the best if he were a senior this year. I look at Bresnahan just like Lingren. No in 12/13 but yes in 13/14. Burns.... I’m not sure what to say. For sure no in 12/13 and I would probably say no in 13/14. There’s no question he could score but I didn’t think of him as highly as some of the others in 13/14, probably because he played for a pretty poor team.
Of the players you listed, and I don’t think you missed anyone who should have been mentioned to only players I would say would be clearly the best player in the region this year if their 12/13 self was playing this year would be Bussman, Hasleau, and Wyatt Mund. If you moved to the following year I think you could add Kretchman, Lindgren, and Bresnahan.
ND-is-#1 wrote:I think there are 5-6 teams that have a chance I'll list them in the order I have them right now.
1. Enderlin - I think Enderlin has a chance to be the outright best team in the region if they start to use their height and play inside more. Lindgren is tough to stop in the post and needs to get the ball more. Hurlburt could be very dominant down low but doesn't seem to want to hard to argue though when he's shooting 40%+ from outside. I think if they play an inside out game and not rely on the outside shot they could be very very tough to beat.
2. M/NS - have one of the best offenses in the region with the due of Hanson and Olsen. There defense is dreadful and that to me has to do with effort, hustle, and attitude. By this time in the year they should be able to play some defense. They are relying on outscoring teams. Come tourney time, that won't cut it. If they do figure it out they could come out on top.
3. Central Cass - the squirrels are kinda of a tossup for me. They aren't very deep and don't have a lot of scoring outside of Bresnahan, but so far this season Bresnahan has proved he can carry the load. I think come tourney time teams will figure out a way to slow him down. If other guys can step up and help him out they will have a chance.
4. Hankinson - I truly believe this team is the "dark horse" of the region. Solid team all the way around that pounds the ball inside and plays well together. They have been playing solid all year and if they kick it up a notch don't be surprised if they make a run at the region title.
5. Northern Cass - i have watched them play three times this year and I don't think they have the height to contend with Enderlin and M/NS. Couple good shooters but they live and die by the three and to take the region you have to be able to play inside and out. They do have a solid record so far, but haven't beat one of the "top teams" on the region yet. Don't totally count them out though.
6. Oak grove - only seen them play once, but they can score the ball. They contended with M/NS in a shootout and seem to like the uptempo game. Good offenses are always scary come tourney time. Card will have them ready to make a run come tourney time.
This is just where I have teams now, but again this region is very balanced and you could see an upset on any given night. We've seen it with kindred and Richland knocking off M/NS and Enderlin.. Lots of other close games as well. Should be a great region tourney with every game possibly going down to the wire. Excited to see what adjustments each team makes during this final stretch to try get a top three seed!
d_fense wrote:First off, I was discussing 12-13 and mentioned 13-14 because many of the players mentioned were from that graduation class. The only players mentioned by baloncesto not to graduate in 13 or 14 were Kretchman and Adams, both of which had an outstanding 13-14 season.
Carter didn't play after I'm guessing the 3rd game of his junior season, so he in my mind doesn't count in that season. When you are talking last season, I think Carter Mauch was the best senior in the region. I know Carter Kretchman was magical in the state tournament his junior season but I would still put him behind Mauch going off last season.
district2fanog wrote:Tonight's predictions:
OG 71-NC 69
Enderlin 65- Kindred 55
Lisbon 60- FCT 47
Richland 56- MV 49
CC 83- SC 53
Thoughts, anyone else want to predict?
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