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Postby scc » Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:25 pm

There are still five undefeated teams in the state.  They are all at the top of the latest poll.  How many will make it to state undefeated?
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Postby NDSportsFan » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:47 pm

1. Mayville-Portland-Clifford-Galesburg (8) 12-0 89 1

2. Bowman 14-0 78 2

3. Pingree-Buchanan-Kensal 13-0 66 3

4. Four Winds 13-0 57 5

5. Ashley 14-0 51 4

6. Dickinson Trinity 12-1 45 7

7. Bottineau 12-1 42 6

8. Velva 10-1 22 8

9. Richland 11-2 17 10-tie

10. Watford City 10-1 12 9

Others receiving votes: North Border, Bishop Ryan, Oak Grove, Shiloh Christian
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Postby Wombat » Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:47 am

Do any of them play eachother? are any of them in the same region?
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Postby 22 » Tue Jan 31, 2006 7:12 am

Velva plays Bottineau on Friday in Bottineau
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Postby js2125 » Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:17 am

Ashley and PBK are in the same region. The only chance they have of playing each other is in the Region championship game.
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Postby Rebel » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:43 am

Bowman and Trinity are in the same region.  Bowman beat Trinity early in the year in a holiday tournament and they play each other the last game of the regular season. 
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Postby ndfan » Tue Jan 31, 2006 12:55 pm

Trinity/Bowman by far will be the best Regional matchup in the state. Bowman undefeated and Trinitys only loss is to them by 3. I looked and Trinity has beaten every team they've played by 10 or more except for Bowman. Did I see that right?
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Postby Rebel » Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:29 pm

I think that is correct.  That is a tough region all around.  There are several teams in region 7 that will probably lose out to Bowman or Trinity that would be considered favorites in other regions.  Bowman has beaten Trinity the last three years in the regular season, but Trinity always wins in the regional tourny.  It is played at Dickinson Trinity and it is tough to beat a team on their home floor with the state tourny on the line.
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Postby 643master » Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:40 am

MPCG plays in Grand Forks this weekend agaisnt a team from MN that averages 85 points a game, should be interesting.  I doubt win or lose it will have any affect on the standings, but it should be fun to watch.  I dont think MPCG averages over 50 points per game but I would love to see how they do with a team that will try to run on them.  Check the paper on Sunday and see how they fair.
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Postby ndfan » Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:58 pm

Mayville plays Clearbrook-Gonvick at the grand forks lions shootout. They have scored 100pts in 3 games this year should be a good test for Mayville. Win or Lose it shouldnt hurt Mayville at all ranking wise. But state rankings mean nothing its what you do when it comes tournament time.
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Postby scc » Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:28 pm

MPCG averages just over 58 points, which is high for MPCG under Dave Nelson.  I think more than likely MPCG stays #1 with a loss, but you never can be sure.
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Postby Wombat » Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:34 am

A few other good teams will be there too... Four Winds, and North Border are two teams I remember seeing listed for the shootout. (Both are in the poll i think, at least honorable mention)

Maybe someone could list a schedule for these games... i know there is also a 3-point shootout and a dunk contest sometime during the day too.
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Postby NDSportsFan » Fri Feb 03, 2006 5:18 am

Clearbrook-Gonvick's schedule doesn't look that impressive so I'd think MPCG should win easily.
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Postby ndfan » Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:58 pm

Mayville could win that game but I really dont think it will be an easy game to win. There schedule might not be impressive. But to score 85 pts a game you still have to shoot the ball ball well. Will be interesting to see though because Mayville is more of a defensive orientated team so should be interesting.
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Postby NDSportsFan » Fri Feb 03, 2006 4:09 pm

 MPCG is the only team to have beaten Stephen-Argyle(MN) this year I believe.  I think they won 51-33.
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Postby scc » Fri Feb 03, 2006 11:45 pm

Stephen-Argyle (MN) is 15-1, with their only loss being at the hands of MPCG.  The Patriots faced a shorthanded S-A team because of a family vacation during the holiday season.

MPCG is always defense-oriented.  That's how MPCG teams generally have been under Coach Nelson.  This team, however, has the offensive weapons, making them even more scary.
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Postby ndfan » Sat Feb 04, 2006 9:54 pm

Mayville got the win over Clearbrook-Gonvick yesterday was a close low scoring game think it was like 45-43.
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Postby scc » Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:01 am

MPCG beat Clearbrook-Gonvick 49-45.  MPCG led by eight several times in the game, but Clearbrook-Gonvick never let the Patriots widen the gap.  The leading scorer for C-G, Scott Stebe, was held to 5 points.
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Postby Velva in Iraq » Sat Feb 11, 2006 5:54 am

Is there a new class B poll?  Should be interesting to see what Mayville's loss does to the poll.  I do however think people place to much emphasis on records when polling?  What makes PBK or Four Winds better than Trinity because Trinity has 1 loss to the team that should be the new #1.  If I recall Trinity only lost by 3 against Bowman.  In my opinion that makes Trinity#2 or 3.  What should it matter if the other 3 teams are undefeated.  More concideration needs to be made on schedule and who the losses come against.  Some teams have 2 of the top 10 in the same district and more in the region so why should they be penalized in the polls for a loss or 2??
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Postby ndfan » Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:04 am

How can you penalize a Four Winds or PBK for being undefeated? Maybe they could stay that close with Bowman or even beat them. We just don't know and hopefully state tournament time we will find out how close those rankings are.
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Postby scc » Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:15 am

I've seen Four Winds play.  They are very good and deserve to be near the top of the poll.  You can't tell any of us that Trinity deserves to be #2 or #3 at this point.  The poll is strictly a conversation piece.

It will be an interesting looking poll on Monday night.  Again, it's just a conversation piece.
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Postby Velva in Iraq » Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:19 am

I am not penalizing anyone for being undefeated.  I know you have to be a good team to stay undefeated for an entire season.  I am also not saying that PBK or Four Winds aren't deserving of being towards the top.  What I was merely trying to say was that records are just that records and don't give a full story.  Sorry if anyone was offended by my earlier post I wasn't trying to take anything away from those 2 schools.
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Postby scc » Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:22 am

I will agree with you that sometimes you can't just look at the records.  The same thing goes for any awards handed out like Mr. Basketball or All-State teams, etc.  Too much emphasis is put on a few stats, which means you don't always get the best teams or players in the right order.  It's better than using computers like the BCS in college football though...
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Postby Velva in Iraq » Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:44 am

Has anyone seen Ashley play and are they coop with Wishek in basketball?  What Region and district are they in?
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Postby js2125 » Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:53 am

Ashley isn't a bad team however they have a lack of depth working against them.  Big floor and a few fouls and the lack of a bench will come back to haunt them. Waiting to see them match up with PBK in Jamestown.  They did not play each other during the season.
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