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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:10 pm

east sider wrote:Most losses for a state champion? Can't recall one ever having as many losses as Milnor


How many losses did Grafton have back in 2008? That's the only team I can think of that might have close to Milnor's total.

Interesting thing though is Milnor lost 4 of their first 6 games of the season...then they went 20-2 to finish the year off (the two losses were to Maple Valley both by single digits in the regular season on the road and on a neutral court).
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby BB11 » Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:25 pm

Run4Fun2009 wrote:
east sider wrote:Most losses for a state champion? Can't recall one ever having as many losses as Milnor


How many losses did Grafton have back in 2008? That's the only team I can think of that might have close to Milnor's total.

Interesting thing though is Milnor lost 4 of their first 6 games of the season...then they went 20-2 to finish the year off (the two losses were to Maple Valley both by single digits in the regular season on the road and on a neutral court).

Bisbee-Egeland in 1989 was 12-7 for the regular season - then went on a 9 game winning streak to end the year as the #1 team in the state ending at 21-7
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby d_fense » Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:09 am

Sounds right. I was one off. :)
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby old#63 » Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:48 am

Run4Fun2009 wrote:
east sider wrote:Most losses for a state champion? Can't recall one ever having as many losses as Milnor


How many losses did Grafton have back in 2008? That's the only team I can think of that might have close to Milnor's total.

Interesting thing though is Milnor lost 4 of their first 6 games of the season...then they went 20-2 to finish the year off (the two losses were to Maple Valley both by single digits in the regular season on the road and on a neutral court).

I don't think the 2008 Spoilers had many losses at all. I'm going to say 2 or 3 at the most.
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby Flip » Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:44 pm

more HS students in class A schools or class b schools?
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby BB11 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:23 pm

Flip wrote:more HS students in class A schools or class b schools?


I'm totally spitballin here and have no mathematical actuarial basis for my answer. But I'd say Class A.
19 Class A school - average of 1000 kids per HS 9-12 = 19,000 students
109 Class B school - average of 100 kids per HS 9-12 = 10,900 students.

Obviously give or take a couple thousand - but A would still have more in my hypothesis.
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:42 pm

BB11 wrote:
Flip wrote:more HS students in class A schools or class b schools?


I'm totally spitballin here and have no mathematical actuarial basis for my answer. But I'd say Class A.
19 Class A school - average of 1000 kids per HS 9-12 = 19,000 students
109 Class B school - average of 100 kids per HS 9-12 = 10,900 students.

Obviously give or take a couple thousand - but A would still have more in my hypothesis.


After a "little" research:

Class A Schools are roughly 18,000 students (Bismarck & Century enrollement numbers are 10-12)
Class B Schools are roughly 12,600 students

So BB11 you and I are pretty even on the Class A...I think I might be closer on the Class B numbers as I did some research on the "B" enrollments at the beginning of the BB Season
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby Flip » Thu May 09, 2013 7:47 pm

I asked this on a different forum and got a couple different answers so I'll see what you guys think.

Rules question:

25.5 seconds on the game clock, 24 on the stot clock. Team A takes a legal shot with 0.2 seconds left on the shot clock. As the ball is in the air the the game clock runs out, but the shot ends up being an air ball. So I'm guessing the choices would be.

a. quarter/game over
b. team B gets the ball with 1.5 seconds remaining
c. team B gets the ball with how much time was remaining on the game clock when it became clear the ball would miss the rim
d. something else?
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby BB11 » Thu May 09, 2013 10:34 pm

Flip wrote:I asked this on a different forum and got a couple different answers so I'll see what you guys think.

Rules question:

25.5 seconds on the game clock, 24 on the stot clock. Team A takes a legal shot with 0.2 seconds left on the shot clock. As the ball is in the air the the game clock runs out, but the shot ends up being an air ball. So I'm guessing the choices would be.

a. quarter/game over
b. team B gets the ball with 1.5 seconds remaining
c. team B gets the ball with how much time was remaining on the game clock when it became clear the ball would miss the rim
d. something else?


B - Team B gets the ball as soon as the shot clock runs out. Doesn't matter if there is an airball, pass, dribble, whatever - once the shot clock runs out - game time is stopped as it is a dead ball infraction.
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby bequickdonthurry » Thu May 09, 2013 11:03 pm

1.7 seconds in the air. That's some arch on that shot.

The period ends. Just because the shot clock sounds does not mean there has been a violation. The shot was released before the shot clock horn sounded. There is no violation here.
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby scc » Thu May 09, 2013 11:54 pm

Flip wrote:I asked this on a different forum and got a couple different answers so I'll see what you guys think.

Rules question:

25.5 seconds on the game clock, 24 on the stot clock. Team A takes a legal shot with 0.2 seconds left on the shot clock. As the ball is in the air the the game clock runs out, but the shot ends up being an air ball. So I'm guessing the choices would be.

a. quarter/game over
b. team B gets the ball with 1.5 seconds remaining
c. team B gets the ball with how much time was remaining on the game clock when it became clear the ball would miss the rim
d. something else?


I'd pick option D.

The official's whistle following the shot clock horn signals the end of the possession, allowing for the game clock to stop. That may or may not occur before the game clock runs out.
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby packers21 » Fri May 10, 2013 8:22 am

Saw this in a game this year team was up by about 15 points with the ball and was running out the clock about the same 1.5 sec difference. Instead of shooting a shot kid just kind of threw the ball in the air, horn on the shot clock blew and the refs put 1.5 back on the clock and finished the game.
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby Baller » Fri May 10, 2013 9:12 am

If the game horn sounds while the ball is in the air, the game is over. If this happens with 6:00 on the clock, you dont go back and put time on the clock. The play is not dead until someone touches the ball.

On the same situation, what would do if there was a foul underneath?

Call a foul on A, put 1.5 secs on the clock and award the ball to b?
Call a foul on A, put 1.5 secs on the clock and have b shoot free throws
Call a foul on b put 1.5 secs on the clock and award the ball to a?
Call a foul on b, put 1.5 secs on the clock and have a shoot free throws
Since the foul occurred during the official horn, there is no foul?
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby balla45 » Fri May 10, 2013 9:39 am

3. If a foul occurs so near the expiration of time that the timer cannot get the clock stopped before time expires or after time expires, but while the ball is in flight during a try or tap for field goal. The quarter or extra period ends when the free throw(s) and all related activity have been completed. No penalty or part of a penalty carries over from one quarter or extra period to the next, except when a correctable error, as in 2-10, is rectified. No free throw(s) shall be attempted after time has expired for the fourth quarter or any extra period, unless the point(s) would affect the outcome of the game.
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby Flip » Fri May 10, 2013 11:34 am

Flip wrote:
Rules question:

25.5 seconds on the game clock, 24 on the stot clock. Team A takes a legal shot with 0.2 seconds left on the shot clock. As the ball is in the air the the game clock runs out, but the shot ends up being an air ball.

Here is what an NCAA official from the NSIC told me today.

Once the official determines the shot has ended, a shot clock violation has occurred and there should be a whistle to kill the play. The defensive team will get the ball at the spot where the ball was located when the violation occurred. That is the NCAA ruling, but I am assuming this is an NBA question due to the 24 second shot clock.
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby Flip » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:00 pm

How many Robbins and Chrest boys have came through Cavalier in the last 10 years?

Seeding the state tournament starts this year?
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby packers21 » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:42 pm

Flip wrote:How many Robbins and Chrest boys have came through Cavalier in the last 10 years?

Seeding the state tournament starts this year?



3 Robbins 2 Chrests and yes
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby TheOneTheOnly » Sun Nov 17, 2013 1:44 am

How many shots a game should you take to get about 20 a game on average you think?
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby Flip » Sun Nov 17, 2013 11:51 am

TheOneTheOnly wrote:How many shots a game should you take to get about 20 a game on average you think?

I assume you mean FGA. If a player could do it in 14 or 15 that would be solid.
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby Flip » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:37 pm

What is the most wins by a HC in ND history? Carr was over 500 like ~10 years ago. He must be 650-700 range.
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby The Schwab » Thu Dec 12, 2013 12:58 pm

I believe Ed Beyer
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby Flip » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:16 pm

how many wins?
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby classB4ever » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:19 pm

I was thinking Bob Hunskor of Newburg passed Eddy but may be wrong.
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby packers21 » Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:48 pm

Carr I believe has 608 wins in ND and 36 more in Minnesota.
Ed Beyer is believed to be the states all time leader in wins with 688.

This is a really good article about Dan and the success he has had as the HC in Linton. Pretty impressive stuff.

http://bismarcktribune.com/sports/high- ... 963f4.html
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Re: Random questions/posts thread

Postby Flip » Thu Dec 12, 2013 2:56 pm

I wonder what Linton's record was in 98-99, I'm pretty sure that was the year they didn't make it to regionals. They were the 8 seed and upset the 1 seed Napoleon, but ended up taking 4th and losing to Strasburg in the challenge game.
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