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Re: 2021-2022 Mr. Basketball

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:11 pm
by WalkingStick
2022 ND Mr. BB Finalists
Trey Brandt, Beulah 25.8 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 3.8 apg, 3 spg
Treysen Eaglestaff, Bismarck 30.3 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 4.6 apg
Joe Hurlburt, Enderlin 25.5 ppg, 15.0 rpg, 5.0 apg
Michael Nhial, Sheyenne 21.1 ppg, 9.7 rpg
Jayden Yankton, Four Winds-Minn. 27 ppg, 5 rpg, 3 apg

Per Lee Timmerman's twitter post

Re: 2021-2022 Mr. Basketball

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 10:55 pm
by BelfieldBantams
For those of you hung up on stats do remember one more stat. Class A games are 4 minutes longer than class b. Would some of the ppg be closer to the same with all the same minutes. Now the class b kids had plenty of running clock games so stats can be what you make them.

Re: 2021-2022 Mr. Basketball

PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2022 11:07 pm
by Flip
WalkingStick wrote:2022 ND Mr. BB Finalists
Trey Brandt, Beulah 25.8 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 3.8 apg, 3 spg
Treysen Eaglestaff, Bismarck 30.3 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 4.6 apg
Joe Hurlburt, Enderlin 25.5 ppg, 15.0 rpg, 5.0 apg
Michael Nhial, Sheyenne 21.1 ppg, 9.7 rpg
Jayden Yankton, Four Winds-Minn. 27 ppg, 5 rpg, 3 apg

Per Lee Timmerman's twitter post

Brandt - Minot State
Eaglestaff - UND
Hurlburt - Colorado
Nhial - ?
Yankton - ?

Re: 2021-2022 Mr. Basketball

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 6:24 am
by lennylive
WalkingStick wrote:2022 ND Mr. BB Finalists
Trey Brandt, Beulah 25.8 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 3.8 apg, 3 spg
Treysen Eaglestaff, Bismarck 30.3 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 4.6 apg
Joe Hurlburt, Enderlin 25.5 ppg, 15.0 rpg, 5.0 apg
Michael Nhial, Sheyenne 21.1 ppg, 9.7 rpg
Jayden Yankton, Four Winds-Minn. 27 ppg, 5 rpg, 3 apg

Per Lee Timmerman's twitter post


Are these career averages or just the 21-22 season averages?

I am curious why he never put in the Block Stats and why only the spg for Brandt?

I am sure they all averaged at least 1 spg Yankton probably had 2per game ..or more. I know Joe probably averaged 1.5 bpg and probably 1 spg
and as far as minutes goes... who had the most time on the floor to get those stats?
1 more though..IF 4WM and Kindred get to the Championship...and Kindred beats them..does that lower Yanktons odds.??

Re: 2021-2022 Mr. Basketball

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 9:09 am
by d_fense
I don't think it would do anything to Yankton's odds. In the past they used to vote after day one of the Boys B. It may have changed...

Re: 2021-2022 Mr. Basketball

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:22 am
by Sportsrube
I'm going to guess that Eaglestaff wins it. Just a hunch on my part.

Re: 2021-2022 Mr. Basketball

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:58 am
by WalkingStick
lennylive wrote:
WalkingStick wrote:2022 ND Mr. BB Finalists
Trey Brandt, Beulah 25.8 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 3.8 apg, 3 spg
Treysen Eaglestaff, Bismarck 30.3 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 4.6 apg
Joe Hurlburt, Enderlin 25.5 ppg, 15.0 rpg, 5.0 apg
Michael Nhial, Sheyenne 21.1 ppg, 9.7 rpg
Jayden Yankton, Four Winds-Minn. 27 ppg, 5 rpg, 3 apg

Per Lee Timmerman's twitter post


Are these career averages or just the 21-22 season averages?

I am curious why he never put in the Block Stats and why only the spg for Brandt?

I am sure they all averaged at least 1 spg Yankton probably had 2per game ..or more. I know Joe probably averaged 1.5 bpg and probably 1 spg
and as far as minutes goes... who had the most time on the floor to get those stats?
1 more though..IF 4WM and Kindred get to the Championship...and Kindred beats them..does that lower Yanktons odds.??


These are the stats that were sent to the media from coaches…he and other NDAPSSA members tweeted all this out last night. Usually the best numbers are sent…How many schools keep track of minutes?

Re: 2021-2022 Mr. Basketball

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:16 pm
by Flip
EDC schools (probably WDA too) have Hudl do stats, which keeps track of minutes played, but from what I've heard they don't do a great job keeping track of minutes played.

Re: 2021-2022 Mr. Basketball

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:25 pm
by WalkingStick
Flip wrote:EDC schools (probably WDA too) have Hudl do stats, which keeps track of minutes played, but from what I've heard they don't do a great job keeping track of minutes played.


Region 1 does as well...but you are at the whim of whoever does those stats and how accurate they are.

Hudl is nice cause that capability is there along with endless amounts of stats off the video.

Re: 2021-2022 Mr. Basketball

PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:22 pm
by lennylive
WalkingStick wrote:
lennylive wrote:
WalkingStick wrote:2022 ND Mr. BB Finalists
Trey Brandt, Beulah 25.8 ppg, 5.5 rpg, 3.8 apg, 3 spg
Treysen Eaglestaff, Bismarck 30.3 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 4.6 apg
Joe Hurlburt, Enderlin 25.5 ppg, 15.0 rpg, 5.0 apg
Michael Nhial, Sheyenne 21.1 ppg, 9.7 rpg
Jayden Yankton, Four Winds-Minn. 27 ppg, 5 rpg, 3 apg

Per Lee Timmerman's twitter post


Are these career averages or just the 21-22 season averages?

I am curious why he never put in the Block Stats and why only the spg for Brandt?

I am sure they all averaged at least 1 spg Yankton probably had 2per game ..or more. I know Joe probably averaged 1.5 bpg and probably 1 spg
and as far as minutes goes... who had the most time on the floor to get those stats?
1 more though..IF 4WM and Kindred get to the Championship...and Kindred beats them..does that lower Yanktons odds.??


These are the stats that were sent to the media from coaches…he and other NDAPSSA members tweeted all this out last night. Usually the best numbers are sent…How many schools keep track of minutes?



One other stat Id like seen here is shooting %..from 3pt land.. from 2 pt land..and from the charity line

Re: 2021-2022 Mr. Basketball

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 12:26 pm
by lennylive
the way Olson (Kindred) has been playing the last 2 years...he has been a MAJOR leader on that team...very impressive at Regionals and even better at state. The kid is very gifted...Infact I think if it were not for him, they might not have won last nights game. Haven't heard anyone speak of him, I think he deserves some recognition.

Re: 2021-2022 Mr. Basketball

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 3:43 pm
by BelfieldBantams
Completely agree on Paul Olson but he seems to be the type of kid who doesn’t care about individual stats. As long as his team has one more point at the end of the night every game he’s good. From what I’ve seen so far at state he’s the most complete player in the tourney.

Re: 2021-2022 Mr. Basketball

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:14 pm
by WalkingStick
Treysen Eaglestaff (Bismarck) won Mr. Basketball with 16 first Place Votes and 87 points
2. Joe Hurlburt (Enderlin) 4 first place votes and 55 points
3. Jayden Yankton (FW-M) 20 points
4. Trey Brandt (Beulah) 14 points
5. Mike Nhial (WF Sheyenne) 4 points

Voting conducted by NDAPSSA members on a 5-3-1 points scale.

Re: 2021-2022 Mr. Basketball

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:33 pm
by Sportsrube
Congrats to Treysen Eaglestaff! Too bad the NDHSAA won't let them televise the award at the end of the tournament like they used to. I also wish they would introduce all of the Region Senior Athletes of the Year and let them come down and be recognized before they announce the winner.

Re: 2021-2022 Mr. Basketball

PostPosted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:42 pm
by lennylive
Sportsrube wrote:Congrats to Treysen Eaglestaff! Too bad the NDHSAA won't let them televise the award at the end of the tournament like they used to. I also wish they would introduce all of the Region Senior Athletes of the Year and let them come down and be recognized before they announce the winner.


Agreed...I thought I missed it somehow.... when did they change this?

So Eaglestaff gets ND MBB and Brandt gets Powerade SAOTY.. Good for them

Re: 2021-2022 Mr. Basketball

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:21 am
by ndlionsfan
Sportsrube wrote:Congrats to Treysen Eaglestaff! Too bad the NDHSAA won't let them televise the award at the end of the tournament like they used to. I also wish they would introduce all of the Region Senior Athletes of the Year and let them come down and be recognized before they announce the winner.


Agreed. Even if they didn't have each of them come to center court, at least announce the winners from each region.

Re: 2021-2022 Mr. Basketball

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:25 am
by classB4ever
ndlionsfan wrote:
Sportsrube wrote:Congrats to Treysen Eaglestaff! Too bad the NDHSAA won't let them televise the award at the end of the tournament like they used to. I also wish they would introduce all of the Region Senior Athletes of the Year and let them come down and be recognized before they announce the winner.


Agreed. Even if they didn't have each of them come to center court, at least announce the winners from each region.


Maybe if they cancelled just 1 of their 400 tv timeouts, they would have some time left to actually honor the student/athletes who are the reason the games are on in the first place. :!: :evil:

I for one love the Parade of Champions, which does honor student/athletes. But seriously, there should be plenty of time at the end of the championship game announcements to recognize all the SAOY candidates.

Re: 2021-2022 Mr. Basketball

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 11:53 am
by WalkingStick
classB4ever wrote:
ndlionsfan wrote:
Sportsrube wrote:Congrats to Treysen Eaglestaff! Too bad the NDHSAA won't let them televise the award at the end of the tournament like they used to. I also wish they would introduce all of the Region Senior Athletes of the Year and let them come down and be recognized before they announce the winner.


Agreed. Even if they didn't have each of them come to center court, at least announce the winners from each region.


Maybe if they cancelled just 1 of their 400 tv timeouts, they would have some time left to actually honor the student/athletes who are the reason the games are on in the first place. :!: :evil:

I for one love the Parade of Champions, which does honor student/athletes. But seriously, there should be plenty of time at the end of the championship game announcements to recognize all the SAOY candidates.


Felt like I saw more commercials then actual game action…commercials every 5 minutes is ridiculous!

Re: 2021-2022 Mr. Basketball

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 1:14 pm
by Flip
Think about this: an NCAA game is 40 minutes long and they have 8 TV timeouts. A class B game is 32 minutes and they have 10 TV timeouts.

Re: 2021-2022 Mr. Basketball

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:21 am
by Sportsrube
classB4ever wrote:
ndlionsfan wrote:
Sportsrube wrote:Congrats to Treysen Eaglestaff! Too bad the NDHSAA won't let them televise the award at the end of the tournament like they used to. I also wish they would introduce all of the Region Senior Athletes of the Year and let them come down and be recognized before they announce the winner.


Agreed. Even if they didn't have each of them come to center court, at least announce the winners from each region.


Maybe if they cancelled just 1 of their 400 tv timeouts, they would have some time left to actually honor the student/athletes who are the reason the games are on in the first place. :!: :evil:

I for one love the Parade of Champions, which does honor student/athletes. But seriously, there should be plenty of time at the end of the championship game announcements to recognize all the SAOY candidates.


I agree. I don't believe there were this many TV timeouts when NBC had the rights. It really messes with the flow of the game.

Re: 2021-2022 Mr. Basketball

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:42 am
by washed_up
But the game is about the teams and the kids right? Who cares about the flow as long as there is another dollar to be made!!! I don't know exactly when it changed to 2 tv timeouts per quarter but it used to be only 1 per quarter around the 4 minute mark. Now it is after the 5:30 point and the 3:00 mark. 2 1/2 whole minutes and then they need to run another commercial. Terrible!!!

Re: 2021-2022 Mr. Basketball

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:30 am
by NDPREP
Who votes for the awards always is of interest, Coaches in B vote Brandt senior athlete and the Media by their vote have Hurlburt as the best player in class B...