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Re: Livestreams

Postby BasketballMind » Fri Jan 29, 2021 9:59 am

Run4Fun2009 wrote:
packers21 wrote:
vikingman wrote:after watching another worthless stream on NFHS last night, I googled 'NFHS Network not cool', and wouldn't you know, there's a Twitter account with that name!


I have had zero problems with NFHS all season, its been great for me. Its weird to see everyone else complaining about it. I bet I watch 5-10 games a day on it.


I can never get the videos to work...I tried for the first month but cannot afford it right now


I seem to notice the scoreboard and clock are way off from the actual score. Last night during the HCV-MM game, the clock read OT4 during the second quarter. The score read 13-3 for Midway-Minto when it was a 5-6 point HCV lead and they were in the 20's at the time. At times the clock would show something like 73 seconds when there was 2-3 minutes to go.

Maybe that's on the ones running it, maybe it's a coincidence. It's happened in boys and girls streams where if you can't get a look at the scoreboard in the actual gym, you'll be guessing. I can get over no commentary, but time and score are kind of important when you're watching a game.

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Re: Livestreams

Postby sportsnut5 » Fri Jan 29, 2021 11:07 am

With the Pixellot system and NFHS, the scoreboard feature is an additional camera that focuses on the scoreboard. In most of the gyms in North Dakota this feature is a struggle. The reasoning for this I believe is the relationship between our scoreboards and the ceiling and lights of the gym. I know in our gym, the ceiling is not high enough. The lights in the gym are too close to the scoreboard and the reflection of those lights cause the camera to pick up inaccurate readings of the time and score. For us, we often get a score of 88 because the camera reads the reflection of the lights as all the bars on the scoreboard are lit up. It is a struggle, but at least the game can be viewed and hopefully this feature can be improved upon.
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Re: Livestreams

Postby vikingman » Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:14 pm

so if they have a camera pointed at the scoreboard, why not just show the actual scoreboard like Hudl does?
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Re: Livestreams

Postby BasketballMind » Sat Jan 30, 2021 3:49 am

sportsnut5 wrote:With the Pixellot system and NFHS, the scoreboard feature is an additional camera that focuses on the scoreboard. In most of the gyms in North Dakota this feature is a struggle. The reasoning for this I believe is the relationship between our scoreboards and the ceiling and lights of the gym. I know in our gym, the ceiling is not high enough. The lights in the gym are too close to the scoreboard and the reflection of those lights cause the camera to pick up inaccurate readings of the time and score. For us, we often get a score of 88 because the camera reads the reflection of the lights as all the bars on the scoreboard are lit up. It is a struggle, but at least the game can be viewed and hopefully this feature can be improved upon.


Seems like something they should make sure works before they let schools pay to use NFHS and get people to pay for it. Not trying to sound ungrateful, but knowing the time and score helps when they don’t provide commentary.
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Re: Livestreams

Postby vikingman » Sat Jan 30, 2021 9:09 am

commentary is up to the local school. If a radio station is doing the game, it's easy to connect the output in to the NFHS feed, and you can also use a local person with a $50 audio mixer to do it. I don't know if they're still doing it this way, but MyLiveEvent used to use a camera with a character reader pointed at the scoreboard and I never saw them having problems with it.
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Re: Livestreams

Postby BasketballMind » Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:31 am

vikingman wrote:commentary is up to the local school. If a radio station is doing the game, it's easy to connect the output in to the NFHS feed, and you can also use a local person with a $50 audio mixer to do it. I don't know if they're still doing it this way, but MyLiveEvent used to use a camera with a character reader pointed at the scoreboard and I never saw them having problems with it.


It seems obvious that if you're livestreaming a game without commentary with a radio station covering it, to have those two sides work together. NFHS or the schools using them need confirm their cameras are going to pick up what they need, or find a way to display it another way.
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Re: Livestreams

Postby vikingman » Sat Jan 30, 2021 11:04 pm

It's now past 10 pm, but I still can't watch the Enderlin/LaMoure game because it is still 'Live'
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Re: Livestreams

Postby vikingman » Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:12 pm

The Enderlin/LaMoure stream finally went off-air at 10:30, but now is no longer listed in the 'on demand' section.
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Re: Livestreams

Postby GOPACKGO!!! » Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:34 pm

vikingman wrote:The Enderlin/LaMoure stream finally went off-air at 10:30, but now is no longer listed in the 'on demand' section.



I would also like to watch it and I can't find it on YouTube, NFHS, or Magnitude. Starting to think we aren't going to have the pleasure.
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Re: Livestreams

Postby vikingman » Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:01 pm

ask the right coach and he'll get yo a copy.
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Re: Livestreams

Postby T reporter » Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:54 pm

What is the deal with the live streaming? Was watching the White Shield vs Parshall game. White Shield was up by a couple with 20 some seconds to go in overtime and the live streaming quits. This is the 3rd or 4th game this has happened Is it my computer or what, very disappointing Who won? Jesse sank a triple to send it to overtime.
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Re: Livestreams

Postby vikingman » Wed Feb 10, 2021 12:15 am

I've complained about how so many schools keep the stream going for an hour or more after the game is over--in this case it looks like they probably scheduled it to end at a certain time and the game wasn't quite over yet.

Both teams had chances to hold on to the ball with the lead, but apparently they would rather shoot a 25-footer than let the clock run out and give them the win.
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Re: Livestreams

Postby T reporter » Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:09 am

Any of the Class B girls region tournament going to be on NFHS network? Some of the districts were some not.

How about boys districts?
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Re: Livestreams

Postby vikingman » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:02 am

Looks like Region 7 is the only one doing all 4 games today on NFHS.

Your Live Event on youtube has Region 2 and Region 1 (although the central cass game isn't listed right now)
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Re: Livestreams

Postby vikingman » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:21 am

while the explosion of webcasts this season is great, in addition to my complaints about NFHS' problems, I have one more irritation:

I realize that we aren't dealing with professional play-by-play people for most of these games, but it wouldn't hurt to watch a college game on ESPN to see how an experienced play-by-play is done. Talk is kept to a minimum (the color commentator is often times saying more than the play-by-play person is).

Just this past weekend I've watched several streams that would have almost been better without play-by-play. If you have video, you don't have to describe EVERY single pass and dribble that occurs. If you're running out of breath, or if the action is so fast that you're one play behind in your description, you're saying too much.

If you have a radio broadcast feeding in to your video, that's a different story--the announcer has to assume that most of the audience is NOT seeing the video. But even then, a good radio announcer says less than some of the streamer announcers are saying.

Just give a general overview of what's happening. Mention the name of the person with the ball. And if you're doing an NFHS stream, make sure to mention the score OFTEN.
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Re: Livestreams

Postby wnrwnrckndnr » Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:37 am

vikingman wrote:while the explosion of webcasts this season is great, in addition to my complaints about NFHS' problems, I have one more irritation:

I realize that we aren't dealing with professional play-by-play people for most of these games, but it wouldn't hurt to watch a college game on ESPN to see how an experienced play-by-play is done. Talk is kept to a minimum (the color commentator is often times saying more than the play-by-play person is).

Just this past weekend I've watched several streams that would have almost been better without play-by-play. If you have video, you don't have to describe EVERY single pass and dribble that occurs. If you're running out of breath, or if the action is so fast that you're one play behind in your description, you're saying too much.

If you have a radio broadcast feeding in to your video, that's a different story--the announcer has to assume that most of the audience is NOT seeing the video. But even then, a good radio announcer says less than some of the streamer announcers are saying.

Just give a general overview of what's happening. Mention the name of the person with the ball. And if you're doing an NFHS stream, make sure to mention the score OFTEN.



I'm going to contradict your statement and say I appreciate all the schools that have any kind of commentary whether it's to much or not. It's much more entertaining to hear commentary than watching a game without it. It's easy to mute your volume if you don't want to hear what they have to say, but its pretty tough to turn the volume up when there is nobody talking to start with.
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Re: Livestreams

Postby sportsphenom » Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:31 pm

T reporter wrote:Any of the Class B girls region tournament going to be on NFHS network? Some of the districts were some not.

How about boys districts?


BEK is doing Regions 3 and 8, all games. You can either stream them or watch on tv if you get BEK.
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Re: Livestreams

Postby vikingman » Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:53 pm

How much did it cost this year to stream the entire tournament?
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Re: Livestreams

Postby woodchuck10 » Mon Mar 01, 2021 9:49 am

PSP Network out of Minot are doing some cool things with streaming games on youtube.
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Re: Livestreams

Postby scc » Mon Mar 01, 2021 10:36 am

vikingman wrote:How much did it cost this year to stream the entire tournament?

I believe the per game fee for video was cut to 1/3 of the normal rate for this school year only. Radio saw no decrease.
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