thebigshow wrote:what does everybody think of this kid?
theman wrote:thebigshow wrote:what does everybody think of this kid?
Good, but not amazing. Joash was way better. So was Collin before him.
Browner wrote:theman wrote:thebigshow wrote:what does everybody think of this kid?
Good, but not amazing. Joash was way better. So was Collin before him.
You kidding? His domination so far is pretty good. Looks like the only person that might be able to beat him is his teammate....
It would be hard to tell if Josh/Collin were "way better"....there are so many intangibles. That is your opinion...and everyone is entitled to that. You can ask 100 people any question and they will not agree because opinions vary. Would be nice to see them race when they were all seniors tho but?.........Whats more impressive is Bismarcks domination of cross country lately.
Christian Brown Otter-State Champ 2009
theman wrote:Browner wrote:theman wrote:thebigshow wrote:what does everybody think of this kid?
Good, but not amazing. Joash was way better. So was Collin before him.
You kidding? His domination so far is pretty good. Looks like the only person that might be able to beat him is his teammate....
It would be hard to tell if Josh/Collin were "way better"....there are so many intangibles. That is your opinion...and everyone is entitled to that. You can ask 100 people any question and they will not agree because opinions vary. Would be nice to see them race when they were all seniors tho but?.........Whats more impressive is Bismarcks domination of cross country lately.
Christian Brown Otter-State Champ 2009
Unless you can show a the time that Brownotter went under 16 at jamestown, I would say he's average compared to past state champs.
BHSrunner wrote:People don't really understand how good Joash was I guess....
He absolutely buried all of Christian's thus far.
Joash's rusty bucket: 14:42.
Christian's rusty bucket: 15:35
Joash's Becki Well's: 15:07
Christian's Becki Well's: 16: 01
Joash's QB club race: 15:52
Christian's QB club race: 16:34
It's a no contest.
Joash took 3rd at a National meet, with arguably better competition then footlocker Nationals.
Christian is my boy, but Joash is/was on another level.
oh yeah, Joash ran BY HIMSELF all year. Imagine the times he would have put up if he was racing against kids his caliber.
theman wrote:BHSrunner wrote:People don't really understand how good Joash was I guess....
He absolutely buried all of Christian's thus far.
Joash's rusty bucket: 14:42.
Christian's rusty bucket: 15:35
Joash's Becki Well's: 15:07
Christian's Becki Well's: 16: 01
Joash's QB club race: 15:52
Christian's QB club race: 16:34
It's a no contest.
Joash took 3rd at a National meet, with arguably better competition then footlocker Nationals.
Christian is my boy, but Joash is/was on another level.
oh yeah, Joash ran BY HIMSELF all year. Imagine the times he would have put up if he was racing against kids his caliber.
Correct.
I didn't mean to start a battle about who's better Joash or CBO, but I was just trying to prove a point. Parrish (GFC), Osoro, Slusser (Jamestown, both), and Pat Wolf (New Town) are all examples of kids in the last couple of years who I think are better than CBO.
BHSrunner wrote:theman wrote:BHSrunner wrote:People don't really understand how good Joash was I guess....
He absolutely buried all of Christian's thus far.
Joash's rusty bucket: 14:42.
Christian's rusty bucket: 15:35
Joash's Becki Well's: 15:07
Christian's Becki Well's: 16: 01
Joash's QB club race: 15:52
Christian's QB club race: 16:34
It's a no contest.
Joash took 3rd at a National meet, with arguably better competition then footlocker Nationals.
Christian is my boy, but Joash is/was on another level.
oh yeah, Joash ran BY HIMSELF all year. Imagine the times he would have put up if he was racing against kids his caliber.
Correct.
I didn't mean to start a battle about who's better Joash or CBO, but I was just trying to prove a point. Parrish (GFC), Osoro, Slusser (Jamestown, both), and Pat Wolf (New Town) are all examples of kids in the last couple of years who I think are better than CBO.
Everybody besides Joash is some what debatable. However, if Pat and Slusser's are on your list, I'll throw me on it, haha.
Browner wrote:theman wrote:thebigshow wrote:what does everybody think of this kid?
Good, but not amazing. Joash was way better. So was Collin before him.
You kidding? His domination so far is pretty good. Looks like the only person that might be able to beat him is his teammate....
theman wrote:BHSrunner wrote:theman wrote:BHSrunner wrote:People don't really understand how good Joash was I guess....
He absolutely buried all of Christian's thus far.
Joash's rusty bucket: 14:42.
Christian's rusty bucket: 15:35
Joash's Becki Well's: 15:07
Christian's Becki Well's: 16: 01
Joash's QB club race: 15:52
Christian's QB club race: 16:34
It's a no contest.
Joash took 3rd at a National meet, with arguably better competition then footlocker Nationals.
Christian is my boy, but Joash is/was on another level.
oh yeah, Joash ran BY HIMSELF all year. Imagine the times he would have put up if he was racing against kids his caliber.
Correct.
I didn't mean to start a battle about who's better Joash or CBO, but I was just trying to prove a point. Parrish (GFC), Osoro, Slusser (Jamestown, both), and Pat Wolf (New Town) are all examples of kids in the last couple of years who I think are better than CBO.
Everybody besides Joash is some what debatable. However, if Pat and Slusser's are on your list, I'll throw me on it, haha.
What are you Devin?
BHSrunner wrote:theman wrote:BHSrunner wrote:theman wrote:BHSrunner wrote:People don't really understand how good Joash was I guess....
He absolutely buried all of Christian's thus far.
Joash's rusty bucket: 14:42.
Christian's rusty bucket: 15:35
Joash's Becki Well's: 15:07
Christian's Becki Well's: 16: 01
Joash's QB club race: 15:52
Christian's QB club race: 16:34
It's a no contest.
Joash took 3rd at a National meet, with arguably better competition then footlocker Nationals.
Christian is my boy, but Joash is/was on another level.
oh yeah, Joash ran BY HIMSELF all year. Imagine the times he would have put up if he was racing against kids his caliber.
Correct.
I didn't mean to start a battle about who's better Joash or CBO, but I was just trying to prove a point. Parrish (GFC), Osoro, Slusser (Jamestown, both), and Pat Wolf (New Town) are all examples of kids in the last couple of years who I think are better than CBO.
Everybody besides Joash is some what debatable. However, if Pat and Slusser's are on your list, I'll throw me on it, haha.
What are you Devin?
Yezzir. I think the people in the track forum know who I am, but I guess not the XC forum. I was just messing around though.
baseball wrote:i think he means people on the board know who he is. as in they know its him posting..
baseball wrote:i think he means people on the board know who he is. as in they know its him posting..
opinionated wrote:I think people are thinking average means blahh.... average does not mean blahh....but there have been a lot of great distance runners and when you apply those accomplishments to those "average", but good guys a picture forms.
The BEST in distance in all 4 events
1.Corey Ihmels 1:53.53; 4:08;58, 9:03.65 also 3 time cross country champ only ND to go under 4 minute mile
2.Rob Heen 1:54.89; 4:12.76; 9:12.80 also 2 time cross country champ
3.Joash Osoro 1:58.77; 4:16.41; 9:12.49 also 2 time cross country champ
4.Sam Larson 1:56.80; 4:20.25, 9:24.18 also 2 time cross country champ
There have also been great runners distance runners (800, 1600, 3200, cross champ) like Jeff dude (state cross champ) , Greg Rhode (4:12 and 9:16), Kevin Miiller( 1:55.91; 4:21.02; 9:21.15), Brian McCulley (1:52.02; 4:12; 9:17) ( 2 time cross champ), Corey Wiley (1:56.95; 4:19.41; 9:27.02), Ross Schilling (1:56.42; 4:22.83), and then there was Jory Zunich multiple cross champ but had average 3200 times and nothing great about 800 or mile times he would be considered average. Most runners even though we think they are the "greatest" do not make it into the the "Best" category, this is just reality. I think this was BHS Runners point but he can speak for himself.
baller24 wrote:opinionated wrote:I think people are thinking average means blahh.... average does not mean blahh....but there have been a lot of great distance runners and when you apply those accomplishments to those "average", but good guys a picture forms.
The BEST in distance in all 4 events
1.Corey Ihmels 1:53.53; 4:08;58, 9:03.65 also 3 time cross country champ only ND to go under 4 minute mile
2.Rob Heen 1:54.89; 4:12.76; 9:12.80 also 2 time cross country champ
3.Joash Osoro 1:58.77; 4:16.41; 9:12.49 also 2 time cross country champ
4.Sam Larson 1:56.80; 4:20.25, 9:24.18 also 2 time cross country champ
There have also been great runners distance runners (800, 1600, 3200, cross champ) like Jeff dude (state cross champ) , Greg Rhode (4:12 and 9:16), Kevin Miiller( 1:55.91; 4:21.02; 9:21.15), Brian McCulley (1:52.02; 4:12; 9:17) ( 2 time cross champ), Corey Wiley (1:56.95; 4:19.41; 9:27.02), Ross Schilling (1:56.42; 4:22.83), and then there was Jory Zunich multiple cross champ but had average 3200 times and nothing great about 800 or mile times he would be considered average. Most runners even though we think they are the "greatest" do not make it into the the "Best" category, this is just reality. I think this was BHS Runners point but he can speak for himself.
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jim77 wrote:He's the number 1 guy on his team/state. He's also undefeated. His team is ranked 27th in the NATION...and moving up. Not too shabby. He's better than "good"...a lot better. He's also gonna do what NO other person on the "BEST" list has done...go to NXN twice! Ihmels, Heen, Osoro, Larson are faster but, none more important to their team....which is exactly what CC is all about. The Demon train continues to roll!
thebigshow wrote:what does everybody think of this kid?
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