2018 Coaches Poll

Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby WDA_fan » Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:14 am

I believe 3 of their top 5 didn't even start the race and their top runner didn't finish the race. Once they are all healthy, they will be very hard/impossible to beat.
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Wed Sep 26, 2018 8:38 pm

POLL #5
Wednesday, September 26th

CLASS A
GIRLS
Team
1. Fargo Davies
2. West Fargo
3. Century
4. Bismarck
5. GF Central
Others Receiving Votes: Minot

Individual
1. Meghan Ford (Jamestown)
2. Kelby Rinas (Mandan)
3. Erin Palmer (Century)
4. Kayla Ogle (Watford City)
5. Emily Goldade (Century)
6. Megan Lundstrom (Davies)
7. Alexis Roehl (GF Central)
8. Jaelyn Ogle (Watford City)
9. Eleni Lovgren (Williston)
10. McKenna Lovehaug (Davies)

BOYS
Team
1. Bismarck
2. Legacy
3. Century
4. Williston
5. GF Red River

Individual
1. Brady Yoder (Dickinson)
2. Alex Luz (Fargo North)
3. Sean Korsmo (Bismarck)
4. Jacob Jensen (TMCHS)
5. Austin Wald (Century)
6. Carl Reis (Legacy)
7. Jacob Knodle (WF Sheyenne)
8. Juan Flores (Bismarck)
9. Micade Shumway (Williston)
10. Jake Arason (GF Red River)

CLASS B
GIRLS
Team
1. Rugby
2. Hillsboro-Central Valley
3. May-Port-CG
4. Thompson
5. New Town
Others Receiving Votes: Shiloh Christian

Individual
1. Lana Krack (Thompson)
2. Elise Ramberg (Langdon)
3. Reagan Baesler (Hillsboro-Central Valley)
4. Dreah Frolek (Sargent Central/Lidgerwood)
5. Quinn Neppl (Rugby)
6. Jensyn Zink (Hillsboro-Central Valley)
7. Amanda Jarrett (Carrington)
8. Jakkia Duffy (LaMoure-LM)
9. Anna Strand (May-Port-CG)
10. Kayla Parisien (St. John)

BOYS
Team
1. New Town
2. Hillsboro-Central Valley
3. Rugby
4. Beulah/Hazen
5. Thompson
Others Receiving Votes: Bowman County

Individual
1. Isaac Huber (Edgeley-Kulm)
2. Jaiven Hale (New Town)
3. Robert White (New Town)
4. Colton Anderson (Hillsboro-Central Valley)
5. Payton Smith (Carrington)
6. Chase Fossum (Hillsboro-Central Valley)
7. Hunter Denault (Pembina County North)
8. Ricardo Chase (New Town)
9. Pierce Cooper (Thompson)
10. Jacob Hendrickson (Thompson)
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby theman » Thu Sep 27, 2018 1:59 pm

Down goes Williston again. Each of the last two races they've run with only 5 runners. At Mandan, they put 7 in the top 39. They have the sick bug or injury bug or something? I don't know, but they've been missing their top runner at the last two meets, and not having that guaranteed top ten hurts.
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby theman » Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:05 pm

Run4Fun2009 wrote:POLL #5
Wednesday, September 26th

CLASS A
GIRLS
Team
1. Fargo Davies
2. West Fargo
3. Century
4. Bismarck
5. GF Central
Others Receiving Votes: Minot

Individual
1. Meghan Ford (Jamestown)
2. Kelby Rinas (Mandan)
3. Erin Palmer (Century)
4. Kayla Ogle (Watford City)
5. Emily Goldade (Century)
6. Megan Lundstrom (Davies)
7. Alexis Roehl (GF Central)
8. Jaelyn Ogle (Watford City)
9. Eleni Lovgren (Williston)
10. McKenna Lovehaug (Davies)

BOYS
Team
1. Bismarck
2. Legacy
3. Century
4. Williston
5. GF Red River

Individual
1. Brady Yoder (Dickinson)
2. Alex Luz (Fargo North)
3. Sean Korsmo (Bismarck)
4. Jacob Jensen (TMCHS)
5. Austin Wald (Century)
6. Carl Reis (Legacy)
7. Jacob Knodle (WF Sheyenne)
8. Juan Flores (Bismarck)
9. Micade Shumway (Williston)
10. Jake Arason (GF Red River)

CLASS B
GIRLS
Team
1. Rugby
2. Hillsboro-Central Valley
3. May-Port-CG
4. Thompson
5. New Town
Others Receiving Votes: Shiloh Christian

Individual
1. Lana Krack (Thompson)
2. Elise Ramberg (Langdon)
3. Reagan Baesler (Hillsboro-Central Valley)
4. Dreah Frolek (Sargent Central/Lidgerwood)
5. Quinn Neppl (Rugby)
6. Jensyn Zink (Hillsboro-Central Valley)
7. Amanda Jarrett (Carrington)
8. Jakkia Duffy (LaMoure-LM)
9. Anna Strand (May-Port-CG)
10. Kayla Parisien (St. John)

BOYS
Team
1. New Town
2. Hillsboro-Central Valley
3. Rugby
4. Beulah/Hazen
5. Thompson
Others Receiving Votes: Bowman County


Individual
1. Isaac Huber (Edgeley-Kulm)
2. Jaiven Hale (New Town)
3. Robert White (New Town)
4. Colton Anderson (Hillsboro-Central Valley)
5. Payton Smith (Carrington)
6. Chase Fossum (Hillsboro-Central Valley)
7. Hunter Denault (Pembina County North)
8. Ricardo Chase (New Town)
9. Pierce Cooper (Thompson)
10. Jacob Hendrickson (Thompson)

Worth noting also that Beulah/Hazen hosted a meet two days ago and Bowman Co. took down Beulah/Hazen and almost beat Rugby. BC had a much tighter 1-5 spread, which means at a bigger meet (like state for example), BC has a better chance over Rugby.
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby WDA_fan » Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:31 pm

Williston has the injury bug but should be ready for WDA/State. If they are healthy, state is theirs to lose. If they are not 100% it will be a very tight/interesting race!!
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby PMPT » Fri Sep 28, 2018 1:30 pm

I think that the weekly Coaches poll in Class B for both Girls and Boys isn't accounting for alot of the runners in the western part of the state....
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby that guy » Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:55 am

How is Thompson rated in the top 5 in boys? Their team isn't even winning very many meets?
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby XCguy » Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:23 pm

PMPT wrote:I think that the weekly Coaches poll in Class B for both Girls and Boys isn't accounting for alot of the runners in the western part of the state....


Like who in particular?
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 7:12 pm

POLL #6
Wednesday, October 3rd

CLASS A
GIRLS
Team
1. Fargo Davies
2. West Fargo
3. Century
4. Bismarck
5. GF Central

Individual
1. Meghan Ford (Jamestown)
2. Kelby Rinas (Mandan)
3. Erin Palmer (Century)
4. Kayla Ogle (Watford City)
5. Megan Lundstrom (Davies)
6. Emily Goldade (Century)
7. Alexis Roehl (GF Central)
8. Jaelyn Ogle (Watford City)
9. Eleni Lovgren (Williston)
10. McKenna Lovehaug (Davies)

BOYS
Team
1. Bismarck
2. Legacy
3. Century
4. Williston
5. GF Red River

Individual
1. Brady Yoder (Dickinson)
2. Alex Luz (Fargo North)
3. Sean Korsmo (Bismarck)
4. Jacob Jensen (TMCHS)
5. Carl Reis (Legacy)
6. Austin Wald (Century)
7. Juan Flores (Bismarck)
8. Jacob Knodle (WF Sheyenne)
9. Micade Shumway (Williston)
10. Jake Arason (GF Red River)

CLASS B
GIRLS
Team
1. Rugby
2. Hillsboro-Central Valley
3. May-Port-CG
4. Thompson
5. New Town
Others Receiving Votes: Beulah/Hazen

Individual
1. Lana Krack (Thompson)
2. Elise Ramberg (Langdon)
3. Reagan Baesler (Hillsboro-Central Valley)
4. Dreah Frolek (Sargent Central/Lidgerwood)
5. Jakkia Duffy (LaMoure-LM)
6. Quinn Neppl (Rugby)
7. Jensyn Zink (Hillsboro-Central Valley)
8. Amanda Jarrett (Carrington)
9. Hannah Westin (Shiloh Christian)
10. Anna Strand (May-Port-CG)

BOYS
Team
1. New Town
2. Hillsboro-Central Valley
3. Rugby
4. Griggs County Central
5. Bowman County

Individual
1. Isaac Huber (Edgeley-Kulm)
2. Jaiven Hale (New Town)
3. Robert White (New Town)
4. Colton Anderson (Hillsboro-Central Valley)
5. Ricardo Chase (New Town)
6. Chase Fossum (Hillsboro-Central Valley)
7. Payton Smith (Carrington)
8. Hunter Denault (Pembina County North)
9. Pierce Cooper (Thompson)
10. Noah Rolfe (Stanley)
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby PMPT » Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:32 am

XCguy wrote:
PMPT wrote:I think that the weekly Coaches poll in Class B for both Girls and Boys isn't accounting for alot of the runners in the western part of the state....


Like who in particular?


The Miller kid from Bowman, Patrick Wrigley at Shiloh, possibly Zachmeier in Rugby.
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby that guy » Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:39 am

Are not the top 10 consistently running faster times then the boys out west. I have no stake in with any of them in the top ten just looking at times.
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:44 am

that guy wrote:Are not the top 10 consistently running faster times then the boys out west. I have no stake in with any of them in the top ten just looking at times.


This poll could be an ever-changing revolving door...especially for those from 8-10. It's just a poll though...means nothing. Bulletin-board material for those just outside of it. A few named previously have at least been in the poll...just not in it right now.

Side Note: 25-35 coaches vote each week in the polls.
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby that guy » Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:50 am

how many teams are there this year?
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:18 pm

that guy wrote:how many teams are there this year?


Class A has 22 teams I think.
Class B has roughly 50 teams

Some coaches vote...some don't
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby XCguy » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:47 pm

PMPT wrote:
XCguy wrote:
PMPT wrote:I think that the weekly Coaches poll in Class B for both Girls and Boys isn't accounting for alot of the runners in the western part of the state....


Like who in particular?


The Miller kid from Bowman, Patrick Wrigley at Shiloh, possibly Zachmeier in Rugby.

Like others, I have no dog in this fight but …

On Saturday, on the state meet course, both Wrigley and Zachmeier got beat by Nolfe (#10), Denault (#8), Smith (#7) and the three New Town boys. They didn't beat any ranked kids.

Miller did win a meet in Watford City but didn't beat any ranked runners. The last time he saw a ranked runner was in Beulah where he lost to Nolfe (and Zachmeier).

Rankings are relatively worthless … just for discussion. That being said, I think the boys are about right.
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby PMPT » Fri Oct 05, 2018 12:54 pm

You are correct, rankings are useless, but they are still alot of fun! Plus, it gives of you an idea of who to be watching for at the meets.
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby XCguy » Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:13 pm

PMPT wrote:You are correct, rankings are useless, but they are still alot of fun! Plus, it gives of you an idea of who to be watching for at the meets.


Absolutely! I think the B Boys may be the most exciting race of the day in late Oct.
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby WDA_fan » Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:00 pm

They all should be pretty good races! Anything can happen on any given day, but all of the #1 ranked runners have to be pretty clear favorites, don't they? What are the odds any of them get beat?
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby XCguy » Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:11 pm

WDA_fan wrote:They all should be pretty good races! Anything can happen on any given day, but all of the #1 ranked runners have to be pretty clear favorites, don't they? What are the odds any of them get beat?


In Class A, yes. In Class B, I think any of 3-4 kids have a chance. I'm certainly not going to bet against either of the defending champs (Hale and Baesler).
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby XCguy » Fri Oct 05, 2018 2:14 pm

Interestingly enough, the highest returning finishers from last year's state meet in all four races is currently the underdog? 3 returning state champs and Luz who finished third last year.
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby WDA_fan » Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:13 pm

XCguy wrote:Interestingly enough, the highest returning finishers from last year's state meet in all four races is currently the underdog? 3 returning state champs and Luz who finished third last year.


I did not realize that. that is crazy! That is what makes XC great! I don't know Luz at all - never met him, but I heard he was a super great kid. Being his senior year, I wouldn't be surprised to see him come out and run great at state. He has a state championship in 1600 so he knows how to win big races!
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby theman » Fri Oct 05, 2018 3:39 pm

that guy wrote:Are not the top 10 consistently running faster times then the boys out west. I have no stake in with any of them in the top ten just looking at times.

Courses are tougher out west. They actually have hills on them. Also, the western part of the state has higher average wind speeds than the east.


As for Alex Luz, he's been running quite well, but so has Brody Yoder. I'm excited to watch the state meet. Yoder ran 16:14 FTW in the Maroon division at Griak. If you don't know anything about Griak, know this- it's a TOUGH course. Easily worth sub-16 on a pancake course like Valley City or Grand Forks.
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby Jack8 » Fri Oct 05, 2018 11:20 pm

Let’s say Huber wins the class b boys state meet as everyone on this site is saying. Who win senior athlete of year him or Hale?
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby WDA_fan » Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:46 am

Jack8 wrote:Let’s say Huber wins the class b boys state meet as everyone on this site is saying. Who win senior athlete of year him or Hale?



Isn't there additional criteria such as community service and grades? I am not sure if the coaches ever really consider those but they could be tie breaker mabye?
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Re: 2018 Coaches Poll

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:21 pm

POLL #7
Wednesday, October 10th

CLASS A
GIRLS
Team
1. Fargo Davies
2. Century
3. GF Central
4. West Fargo
5. Minot
Others Receiving Votes: Mandan

Individual
1. Meghan Ford (Jamestown)
2. Megan Lundstrom (Davies)
3. Kelby Rinas (Mandan)
4. Erin Palmer (Century)
5. Kayla Ogle (Watford City)
6. McKenna Lovehaug (Davies)
7. Emily Goldade (Century)
8. Mikayla Weiss (GF Central)
9. Eleni Lovgren (Williston)
10. Alexis Roehl (GF Central)

BOYS
Team
1. Legacy
2. Bismarck
3. Century
4. GF Red River
5. Williston

Individual
1. Brady Yoder (Dickinson)
2. Alex Luz (Fargo North)
3. Sean Korsmo (Bismarck)
4. Carl Reis (Legacy)
5. Austin Wald (Century)
6. Jake Arason (GF Red River)
7. Juan Flores (Bismarck)
8. Jacob Knodle (WF Sheyenne)
9. Jacob Jensen (TMCHS)
10. Micade Shumway (Williston)

CLASS B
GIRLS
Team
1. Rugby
2. Hillsboro-Central Valley
3. May-Port-CG
4. New Town
5. Thompson

Individual
1. Lana Krack (Thompson)
2. Reagan Baesler (Hillsboro-Central Valley)
3. Dreah Frolek (Sargent Central/Lidgerwood)
4. Jakkia Duffy (LaMoure-LM)
5. Quinn Neppl (Rugby)
6. Elise Ramberg (Langdon)
7. Jensyn Zink (Hillsboro-Central Valley)
8. Hannah Westin (Shiloh Christian)
9. Kayla Parisien (St. John)
10. Anna Strand (May-Port-CG)

BOYS
Team
1. New Town
2. Hillsboro-Central Valley
3. Rugby
4. Griggs County Central
5. Bowman County

Individual
1. Isaac Huber (Edgeley-Kulm)
2. Jaiven Hale (New Town)
3. Robert White (New Town)
4. Colton Anderson (Hillsboro-Central Valley)
5. Ricardo Chase (New Town)
6. Chase Fossum (Hillsboro-Central Valley)
7. Payton Smith (Carrington)
8. Hunter Denault (Pembina County North)
9. Noah Rolfe (Stanley)
10. Pierce Cooper (Thompson)
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