2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:11 pm

CLASS B STATE TOURNAMENT
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November 15, 16, 17

Thursday, November 15th
M1: #2 Thompson def. Center-Stanton 3-0 (25-15, 25-21, 25-10)
M2: #3 Northern Cass def. Our Redeemer's 3-0 (25-21, 28-26, 25-18)
M3: #1 Langdon/Edmore/Munich def. Kenmare 3-0 (25-14, 25-8, 25-17)
M4: #4 Oakes def. #5 Dickinson Trinity 3-0 (25-11, 25-17, 25-12)

Friday, November 16th
M5: Center-Stanton def. Our Redeemer’s 3-0 (25-23, 26-24, 25-18)
M6: #5 Dickinson Trinity def. Kenmare 3-0 (25-11, 25-12, 25-19)
M7: #2 Thompson def. #3 Northern Cass 3-1 (8-25, 25-16, 25-14, 25-23)
M8: #4 Oakes def. #1 Langdon/Edmore/Munich 3-1 (17-25, 25-16, 25-19, 25-19)

Saturday, November 17th
7th Place: Our Redeemer’s def. Kenmare 3-0 (25-22, 25-16, 25-14)
5th Place: #5 Dickinson Trinity def. Center-Stanton 3-1 (22-25, 25-10, 25-13, 25-21)
3rd Place: #1 Langdon/Edmore/Munich def. #3 Northern Cass 3-0 (25-20, 25-17, 25-17)
Championship: #2 Thompson def. #4 Oakes 3-2 (25-20, 23-25, 13-25, 25-16, 15-13)

CHAMPS: Thompson (39-1-1)
Runner-Up: Oakes (33-8)
3rd Place: Langdon/Edmore/Munich (43-4)
4th Place: Northern Cass (34-3-2)
5th Place: Dickinson Trinity (37-6-1)
6th Place: Center-Stanton (35-10)
7th Place: Our Redeemer's (35-11-1)
8th Place: Kenmare (30-16)

Senior Athlete of the Year: Taylor Zak, Thompson
Coach of the Year: Lisa Strand, Thompson

All-Tournament Team
Oakes: Nicole Schmitz, Marisa Garza, Sadie Hansen, Jaida Seyer
Thompson: Taylor Zak, Macy Jordheim, Lauren Cunningham
Langdon/Edmore/Munich: Callie Ronnigen, Madison Pritchard
Northern Cass: Bailey Nelson, Liberty Fix
Dickinson Trinity: Macy Kuntz, Alexa Walby
Center-Stanton: Morgan Vitek
Our Redeemer's: Tessa Olson
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 1:12 pm

CLASS A STATE TOURNAMENT
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November 15, 16, 17

Thursday, November 15th
M1: W1 Century def. E4 WF Sheyenne 3-0 (30-28, 25-21, 25-19)
M2: E2 Fargo Davies def. W3 Bismarck 3-1 (25-20, 20-25, 25-16, 25-18)
M3: E1 West Fargo def. W4 Jamestown 3-2 (25-20, 22-25, 25-10, 22-25, 15-13)
M4: W2 Mandan def. E3 Shanley 3-2 (19-25, 20-25, 25-12, 25-22, 15-2)

Friday, November 16th
M5: E4 WF Sheyenne def. W3 Bismarck 3-1 (20-25, 25-19, 25-20, 25-18)
M6: E3 Shanley def. W4 Jamestown 3-2 (25-17, 19-25, 25-18, 23-25, 15-10)
M7: W1 Century def. E2 Fargo Davies 3-0 (25-22, 25-16, 26-24)
M8: W2 Mandan def. E1 West Fargo 3-1 (25-21, 18-25, 25-22, 25-17)

Saturday, November 17th
7th Place: W3 Bismarck def. W4 Jamestown 3-2 (25-16, 18-25, 25-23, 15-25, 15-12)
5th Place: E4 WF Sheyenne def. E3 Shanley 3-0 (25-23, 25-18, 25-14)
3rd Place: E2 Fargo Davies def. E1 West Fargo 3-0 (26-24, 25-13, 25-18)
Championship: W1 Century def. W2 Mandan 3-1 (25-21, 25-23, 24-26, 25-18)

CHAMPS: Century (32-5)
Runner-Up: Mandan (29-8)
3rd Place: Fargo Davies (32-4)
4th Place: West Fargo (23-15)
5th Place: WF Sheyenne (25-12)
6th Place: Shanley (23-14)
7th Place: Bismarck (25-12)
8th Place: Jamestown (20-15)

Senior Athlete of the Year: Averi Beyer, Fargo Davies
Coach of the Year: Anna Folk, Mandan

All-Tournament Team
Century: Lauren Ware, Julia Fitterer, Hailey Fletcher
Mandan: Lakyn Darras, Kennedy Harris, Emily Tweten
Fargo Davies: Grace Solberg, Averi Beyer
West Fargo: Mariah Schatz, Madison McKinnon
WF Sheyenne: Olivia Dobrinz, Jaydn Feist
Shanley: Jordyn Stroup, Grace Meier
Bismarck: Macy Wetsch
Jamestown: Courtney Peterson
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby airmail » Fri Nov 09, 2018 6:19 pm

How on earth does Langdon get the 1 seed over Thompson? :|
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:11 pm

airmail wrote:How on earth does Langdon get the 1 seed over Thompson? :|


No idea...Thompson went 2-1 over Langdon this season; I have a feeling coaches just looked at the 41 wins.

Langdon also went 1-1 vs. Northern Cass this season.
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby B-oldtimer » Fri Nov 09, 2018 7:57 pm

I thought it was done off their Qrf rankings on ndscores.net which shows Langdon being number one on how ever they arrive at scoring. There it shows Northern Cass number two and Thompson number 3. I also think coaches look at this plus their records and strength of schedule these teams have played. These 3 of Langdon, Thompson, and Northern Cass would be hard to rank because they all have beaten each other this year. Most of the losses came early in the season so all these teams have improved over the year. Also another thing Langdon tournament wins were some of the bigger tournaments for the state I wonder if this didn't also play in how they were perceived by coaches.
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby airmail » Sat Nov 10, 2018 9:23 am

All of that considered, to overlook losses in 6 sets out of 9 in head-to-head competition (and an overall better record) seems like they're trying to outsmart their common sense. They succeeded, IMO. :roll:

Regardless, all the remaining seeds seem to be in-line with records and head to head matches. It looks like there will be potential for some great matchups for the tournament. AND... we are guaranteed a new state champion this year!
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Sat Nov 10, 2018 12:50 pm

I was only shocked with Langdon/Thompson seeds...just thought they should be switched. Everything else is how I thought it would end up. Good Luck to all teams
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby Flip » Sat Nov 10, 2018 6:33 pm

Coaches rank the teams 1-7, not ranking their own team, I believe. What is stopping Langdon from ranking Thompson 7?
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Sat Nov 10, 2018 7:22 pm

Flip wrote:Coaches rank the teams 1-7, not ranking their own team, I believe. What is stopping Langdon from ranking Thompson 7?


Highest and lowest ranking is also thrown out...then they average the remaining ranks.
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby Ball4Him » Sat Nov 10, 2018 10:56 pm

Flip wrote:Coaches rank the teams 1-7, not ranking their own team, I believe. What is stopping Langdon from ranking Thompson 7?


I don't think Langdon would be that petty just to get a higher seed. They still have to win 3 tough matches no matter what seed they get. Also, I think whoever is looking over the rankings would see what is going on there and do something about it.
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby The Schwab » Tue Nov 13, 2018 10:58 am

Ball4Him wrote:
Flip wrote:Coaches rank the teams 1-7, not ranking their own team, I believe. What is stopping Langdon from ranking Thompson 7?


I don't think Langdon would be that petty just to get a higher seed. They still have to win 3 tough matches no matter what seed they get. Also, I think whoever is looking over the rankings would see what is going on there and do something about it.


This is NOT a comment towards Langdon at all, but if you don't think that some coaches would try to "stack the deck" you're probably wrong. I think if they're going to seed the tournament, use the qrf and seed 1-8. I don't have a problem with using the qrf when it doesn't determine location of the game.
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby HighSchoolSportsFan » Tue Nov 13, 2018 12:52 pm

The Schwab wrote:
Ball4Him wrote:
Flip wrote:Coaches rank the teams 1-7, not ranking their own team, I believe. What is stopping Langdon from ranking Thompson 7?


I don't think Langdon would be that petty just to get a higher seed. They still have to win 3 tough matches no matter what seed they get. Also, I think whoever is looking over the rankings would see what is going on there and do something about it.


This is NOT a comment towards Langdon at all, but if you don't think that some coaches would try to "stack the deck" you're probably wrong. I think if they're going to seed the tournament, use the qrf and seed 1-8. I don't have a problem with using the qrf when it doesn't determine location of the game.


If they throw out the high and low as Run indicated in an earlier post, then one coach wouldn't really be able to manipulate the rankings greatly.

I could see the logic in ranking Langdon 1 and Thompson 2 based on the entire season of work. Langdon did win arguably the two toughest regular season tournaments this year, Valley City and Des Lacs. They may also have had the toughest schedule this year with 12 matches against teams that qualified for the state tournament (9-3) and have beaten every team that has qualified for state with the exception of Center-Stanton, whom they didn't play. They are also ranked 1 in the QRF (which I would assume is based largely on strength of schedule). That being said, I personally would have flipped the top two seeds as well. The rest of the seeding looks pretty well spot on and the random draws actually came out they way I would have seeded them 1 through 8.
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 1:03 pm

HighSchoolSportsFan wrote:
The Schwab wrote:
Ball4Him wrote:
Flip wrote:Coaches rank the teams 1-7, not ranking their own team, I believe. What is stopping Langdon from ranking Thompson 7?


I don't think Langdon would be that petty just to get a higher seed. They still have to win 3 tough matches no matter what seed they get. Also, I think whoever is looking over the rankings would see what is going on there and do something about it.


This is NOT a comment towards Langdon at all, but if you don't think that some coaches would try to "stack the deck" you're probably wrong. I think if they're going to seed the tournament, use the qrf and seed 1-8. I don't have a problem with using the qrf when it doesn't determine location of the game.


If they throw out the high and low as Run indicated in an earlier post, then one coach wouldn't really be able to manipulate the rankings greatly.

I could see the logic in ranking Langdon 1 and Thompson 2 based on the entire season of work. Langdon did win arguably the two toughest regular season tournaments this year, Valley City and Des Lacs. They may also have had the toughest schedule this year with 12 matches against teams that qualified for the state tournament (9-3) and have beaten every team that has qualified for state with the exception of Center-Stanton, whom they didn't play. They are also ranked 1 in the QRF (which I would assume is based largely on strength of schedule). That being said, I personally would have flipped the top two seeds as well. The rest of the seeding looks pretty well spot on and the random draws actually came out they way I would have seeded them 1 through 8.


QRF needed to be updated...it wasn’t updated since late October...but since it’s not used officially in ND I can see why it wasn’t tended to.
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby HighSchoolSportsFan » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:24 pm

I wondered about that on the QRF as well. The last couple of years the final update had been just prior to the regional tournaments. It would have included two more regulart season games for each of the top three teams and of course all the district tournaments. Would likely have benefitted NC as they beat Oak Grove(#7) in one of those last two games. Langdon beat beat North Star (#15) in one of their last two games. Thompson would not have improved imo with either of their last two wins. Oakes may have moved up with their run through the dist. 5 tournament with wins over Lamoure (#9) and Carrington (#5). End of the day it doesn't really matter as you said Run as ND does not use the QRF for anything in VB.
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:26 pm

HighSchoolSportsFan wrote:I wondered about that on the QRF as well. The last couple of years the final update had been just prior to the regional tournaments. It would have included two more regulart season games for each of the top three teams and of course all the district tournaments. Would likely have benefitted NC as they beat Oak Grove(#7) in one of those last two games. Langdon beat beat North Star (#15) in one of their last two games. Thompson would not have improved imo with either of their last two wins. Oakes may have moved up with their run through the dist. 5 tournament with wins over Lamoure (#9) and Carrington (#5). End of the day it doesn't really matter as you said Run as ND does not use the QRF for anything in VB.


QRF was just updated...interesting that 6 of top 7 are in State Tourney!
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby B-oldtimer » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:19 pm

Is there any tv or live streaming of state volleyball tournament.
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby Sportsrube » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:26 pm

B-oldtimer wrote:Is there any tv or live streaming of state volleyball tournament.


BEK is televising a number of the games, not sure which ones.
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:43 pm

Sportsrube wrote:
B-oldtimer wrote:Is there any tv or live streaming of state volleyball tournament.


BEK is televising a number of the games, not sure which ones.


check their website...they are streaming both classes.
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby sportsphenom » Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:41 pm

Sportsrube wrote:
B-oldtimer wrote:Is there any tv or live streaming of state volleyball tournament.


BEK is televising a number of the games, not sure which ones.


They are streaming both classes, but depending on what kind of cable TV you have you might only get one of the channels. Luckily where I live we get both of those channels. I am in DRN country and Class A was on Channel 104, which is considered their Bek Sports channel and Class B was on channel 195 or 196 which is considered their Bek Sport Plus channel. Their website tells what channels they are on.
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby sportsphenom » Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:43 pm

Streaming on Bek's website is also available.
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby vikingman » Thu Nov 15, 2018 4:29 pm

I give credit to BEK for covering EVERY game, both on TV and on-line. But I loose the webcast stream quite often -- saying 'this live event has ended'. I have to refresh the page to get back to the game.
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby vikingman » Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:02 pm

it would also help if the audio was in sync with the video on TV
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby B-oldtimer » Fri Nov 16, 2018 12:14 am

For the most part I was happy to get to watch the volleyball tournament. We could get A on our dish service but not the b which I watched on the computer some. Class a had much more competitive games in the first round then did the b. Will the b get more competitive now in the semifinals. Also it looks like the east is dominate in class b volleyball this year and seems to have been that way for some time can anyone explain why this is.
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby sportsphenom » Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:24 am

B-oldtimer wrote:For the most part I was happy to get to watch the volleyball tournament. We could get A on our dish service but not the b which I watched on the computer some. Class a had much more competitive games in the first round then did the b. Will the b get more competitive now in the semifinals. Also it looks like the east is dominate in class b volleyball this year and seems to have been that way for some time can anyone explain why this is.

Semi-final games in Class B will be great games, the first round was a snoozer. I'm not sure why the West has been down in Class B volleyball, has been that way for awhile. The East has Regions that are really competitive so I think that helps them be prepared for the big stage. Class A games were fun to watch, but will anyone be able to stop Lauren Ware and Century?!? I think Century gets its 4th in a row.
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Re: 2018 STATE TOURNAMENT

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Fri Nov 16, 2018 10:40 am

Century has been in 7 straight titles...Mandan is best chance to see Century fall IMO...but they have to start fast
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