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2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2017 11:55 am
by Run4Fun2009
STATE TOURNAMENT
@ FargoDome
November 16th-18th

CLASS A
Thursday, November 16th
G1: W4 Mandan def. E1 West Fargo 3-2 (25-21, 22-25, 25-18, 23-25, 16-14)
G2: W2 Jamestown def. E3 Fargo Davies 3-0 (25-20, 25-16, 25-22)
G3: W1 Century def. E4 Devils Lake 3-0 (25-20, 25-10, 25-20)
G4: E2 Valley City def. W3 Bismarck 3-0 (25-22, 25-17, 25-20)

Friday, November 17th
G5: E1 West Fargo def. E3 Fargo Davies 3-0 (25-21, 25-18, 25-13)
G6: W3 Bismarck def. E4 Devils Lake 3-2 (22-25, 25-20, 25-22, 19-25, 17-15)
G7: W2 Jamestown def. W4 Mandan 3-2 (20-25, 19-25, 25-23, 25-20, 17-15)
G8: W1 Century def. E2 Valley City 3-1 (20-25, 25-14, 25-7, 25-20)

Saturday, November 18th
7th Place: E3 Fargo Davies def. E4 Devils Lake 3-0 (25-17, 25-16, 25-22)
5th Place: E1 West Fargo def. W3 Bismarck 3-0 (25-21, 25-21, 25-19)
3rd Place: W4 Mandan def. E2 Valley City 3-2 (25-23, 22-25, 20-25, 25-23, 15-13)
Championship: W1 Century (35-8) vs. W2 Jamestown (37-5)

CHAMPS:
2nd:
3rd: Mandan (26-17)
4th: Valley City (22-13)
5th: West Fargo (34-2)
6th: Bismarck (25-18)
7th: Fargo Davies (25-11)
8th: Devils Lake (21-17)

CLASS B
Thursday, November 16th
G1: #2 Langdon/Edmore/Munich def. Watford City 3-0 (25-14, 25-19, 25-17)
G2: #3 Thompson def. Shiloh Christian 3-0 (25-23, 25-20, 25-21)
G3: #1 LaMoure-LM def. Central Cass 3-0 (25-16, 25-16, 25-12)
G4: #4 Our Redeemer's def. #5 Dickinson Trinity 3-0 (25-18, 25-21, 25-15)

Friday, November 17th
G5: Watford City def. Shiloh Christian 3-0 (25-15, 25-19, 25-18)
G6: Central Cass def. #5 Dickinson Trinity 3-1 (27-25, 26-28, 25-21, 25-21)
G7: #3 Thompson def. #2 Langdon/Edmore/Munich 3-2 (25-22, 16-25, 25-18, 17-25, 15-9)
G8: #1 LaMoure-LM def. #4 Our Redeemer's 3-1 (22-25, 25-22, 25-20, 25-19)

Saturday, November 18th
7th Place: #5 Dickinson Trinity def. Shiloh Christian 3-0 (25-19, 25-23, 25-20)
5th Place: Central Cass def. Watford City 3-1 (25-15, 23-25, 25-11, 25-20)
3rd Place: #2 Langdon/Edmore/Munich def. #4 Our Redeemer's 3-1 (25-12, 24-26, 25-19, 25-20)
Championship: #1 LaMoure-LM def. #3 Thompson 3-0 (25-10, 25-12, 25-14)

CHAMPS: LaMoure-LM (44-1)
2nd: Thompson (34-7)
3rd: Langdon/Edmore/Munich (41-4)
4th: Our Redeemer's (37-9)
5th: Central Cass (31-12-1)
6th: Watford City (29-12)
7th: Dickinson Trinity (35-10)
8th: Shiloh Christian (32-7)

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2017 6:11 pm
by sportsfan111
My Prediction:
1. Lamoure-LM (Will not bet against them again.)
2. Langdon/Edmore/Munich
3. Thompson
4. Our Reedemer's
5. Central Cass
6. Watford City
7. Dickinson
8. Bismarck

Don't know very much about Thompson and Watford City. Have heard through the grapevine that Bismarck is not good. A little surprised Central Cass didn't get a seed, and to make it worse they got a horrible draw. Think they would've had a good shot to knock out any of the other top seeds.

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:42 pm
by BBfan4life
Central Cass will give Lamoure fits..They are good and as competitive as probably Lamoure. Thompson is good as well. Very similar back row and defensive play. The Lamoure/Central Cass game could be the best of the tournament. This should be one of the better State tourneys we have seen in quite some time. All 8 teams should represent pretty well. If Lamoure gets by CC, they should win the whole thing with their determination to not lose and having the best hitter and setter and defense in the state doesn't hurt.

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:11 pm
by HighSchoolSportsFan
Here is a quick rundown of how the tournament teams have faired against each other during this season

LaMoure vs:
Langdon - 8/26 - W 2-0 (25-18, 25-19)
Langdon - 9/16 - W 2-0 (25-20, 25-18)
Langdon - 9/30 - W 2-0 (25-13, 25-14)
Thompson - 9/30 - W 2-0 (25-19, 25-21)
Our Redeemer - 9/9 - W 2-0 (25-6, 25-15)
Central Cass - 9/9 - W 2-0 (25-11, 25-20)
Central Cass - 9/16 - W 2-1 (23-25, 25-17, 17-15)

Langdon vs:
Thompson - 8/31 - W 3-0 (25-22, 25-21, 25-18)
Thompson - 10/7 - W 2-0 (25-11, 25-21)
Dickinson Trinity - 9/30 - W 2-0 (25-12, 2-19)
Central Cass - 9/30 - W 2-0 (25-18, 25-22)
Watford City - 9/30 - W 2-0 (25-22, 25-17)

Thompson vs:
Our Redeemer - 9/9 - L 2-1 (25-17, 14-25, 15-9)
Dickinson Trinity - 9/30 - L - 1-1 (16-25, 25-17)
Central Cass - 9/30 - W 2-1 (22-25, 25-23, 15-9)

Our Redeemer vs:
Dickinson Trinity - 8/26 - L 2-0 (29-27, 25-15)
Dickinson Trinity - 10/14 - W 3-0 (25-15, 25-17, 25-21)
Central Cass - 9/30 - L 2-0 (25-17, 25-18)
Shiloh Christian - 8/26 - W 2-0 (25-9, 25-13)

Dickinson Trinity vs:
Watford City - 10/7 - W 3-0 (set scores not available)

Central Cass - All scores listed above
Shiloh Christian - All scores listed above
Watford City - All scores listed above

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:19 am
by sportsphenom
sportsfan111 wrote:My Prediction:
1. Lamoure-LM (Will not bet against them again.)
2. Langdon/Edmore/Munich
3. Thompson
4. Our Reedemer's
5. Central Cass
6. Watford City
7. Dickinson
8. Bismarck

Don't know very much about Thompson and Watford City. Have heard through the grapevine that Bismarck is not good. A little surprised Central Cass didn't get a seed, and to make it worse they got a horrible draw. Think they would've had a good shot to knock out any of the other top seeds.


I have the exact same prediction. I also was surprised Central Cass didn't get a seed, I personally think they should seed all 8, it really wouldn't be that hard to do.

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:52 pm
by Flip
sportsphenom wrote:I have the exact same prediction. I also was surprised Central Cass didn't get a seed, I personally think they should seed all 8, it really wouldn't be that hard to do.

For basketball and baseball too. They don't want to hurt someone's feelings. It will happen 3 years after Minnesota does it. ND has followed MN every step of the way when it comes to seeding a state tournament.

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 4:04 pm
by heimer
I don't know about anyone else, but I'm disappointed that Oak Grove didn't get in.

Would have been great to see Fargo represented along with Dickinson, Bismarck, and Minot in the small-town tournament.

Man, could have been half the teams. What a system. Too bad we came up short.

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:40 pm
by vikingman
The vote must have been close between Trinity and Central Cass for #5. Trinity's record was somewhat better, but I don't think they had as many wins over good teams as CC did. In addition to that, CC was one of the very few teams to take a set from LLM, and took LLM to extra points for the match at VC.

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:05 am
by HighSchoolSportsFan
I think you could have picked 3-6 out of a hat. Pretty even between ORCS, Trinity, Thompson and CC imo. It was unfortunate for CC that they were the odd (wo)man out in the seeding and then turned around and drew Lamoure in the random draw. Definitely an argument for seeding all 8 teams. Should be something they look at in the future.

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:12 pm
by B-oldtimer
Heimer very good point on private schools. I wonder when class b is finally going to address this problem when these schools represent these regions in all sports in the state at least 60% of the time. The advantages they have is proven in there appearances in the state tournaments and yes there are other class b schools that can compete with them but what about the schools in there regions its not good for whole system if this continues.

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:36 pm
by HighSchoolSportsFan
heimer wrote:I don't know about anyone else, but I'm disappointed that Oak Grove didn't get in.

Would have been great to see Fargo represented along with Dickinson, Bismarck, and Minot in the small-town tournament.

Man, could have been half the teams. What a system. Too bad we came up short.
B-oldtimer wrote:Heimer very good point on private schools. I wonder when class b is finally going to address this problem when these schools represent these regions in all sports in the state at least 60% of the time. The advantages they have is proven in there appearances in the state tournaments and yes there are other class b schools that can compete with them but what about the schools in there regions its not good for whole system if this continues.


Any chance we could move this discussion to another thread (any of other numerous threads where this discussion pops up) and just keep the conversation here focusing on the this year's tournament as is. I understand there are a number of people that question the system but airing your grievances here is not going to change this tournament and is only going to take away from any discussion that people may want to have.

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:52 am
by Sportsrube
B-oldtimer wrote:Heimer very good point on private schools. I wonder when class b is finally going to address this problem when these schools represent these regions in all sports in the state at least 60% of the time. The advantages they have is proven in there appearances in the state tournaments and yes there are other class b schools that can compete with them but what about the schools in there regions its not good for whole system if this continues.


I agree, but I am firmly convinced the the NDHSAA will never do anything to the private schools (for whatever reason) no matter how their member schools feel, vote, etc... Without a complete turnover at the NDHSAA offices and board, nothing will change.

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:31 pm
by scc
Sportsrube wrote:
B-oldtimer wrote:Heimer very good point on private schools. I wonder when class b is finally going to address this problem when these schools represent these regions in all sports in the state at least 60% of the time. The advantages they have is proven in there appearances in the state tournaments and yes there are other class b schools that can compete with them but what about the schools in there regions its not good for whole system if this continues.


I agree, but I am firmly convinced the the NDHSAA will never do anything to the private schools (for whatever reason) no matter how their member schools feel, vote, etc... Without a complete turnover at the NDHSAA offices and board, nothing will change.

Right, it won't change. Heimer's beating the dead horse until it's unrecognizable.

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:50 pm
by heimer
Hey SCC, go to aytch.

The animal is not dead. As long as privates continue to dominate the small school tournament and district chairs vote 15-1 to examine 3 divisions, it's not dead.

Enjoy your A- crap.

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:56 pm
by heimer
BTW, congrats to Mandan on an epic upset over West Fargo/West Fargo Sheyenne.

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:16 pm
by sportsfan111
Watching these games makes me wish more of the region 3 teams were here...

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 7:37 pm
by birthday
BBfan4life wrote:Central Cass will give Lamoure fits..They are good and as competitive as probably Lamoure. Thompson is good as well. Very similar back row and defensive play. The Lamoure/Central Cass game could be the best of the tournament. This should be one of the better State tourneys we have seen in quite some time. All 8 teams should represent pretty well. If Lamoure gets by CC, they should win the whole thing with their determination to not lose and having the best hitter and setter and defense in the state doesn't hurt.

Looks like lamoure come to play and central Cass didnt

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 8:20 pm
by NodakQ2
sportsfan111 wrote:Watching these games makes me wish more of the region 3 teams were here...


Yeah, plug the top 4 teams from Region 3 in and you'd have a more competitive field for sure. Throw Langdon in with 3 Region 3 teams and you'd have a crazy semi final night!

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:06 pm
by Flip
BBfan4life wrote:Central Cass will give Lamoure fits..They are good and as competitive as probably Lamoure. Thompson is good as well. Very similar back row and defensive play. The Lamoure/Central Cass game could be the best of the tournament. This should be one of the better State tourneys we have seen in quite some time. All 8 teams should represent pretty well. If Lamoure gets by CC, they should win the whole thing with their determination to not lose and having the best hitter and setter and defense in the state doesn't hurt.

by the looks of it it should be very competitive, but so far this first round has been lopsided.

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:05 pm
by BBfan4life
Flip wrote:
BBfan4life wrote:Central Cass will give Lamoure fits..They are good and as competitive as probably Lamoure. Thompson is good as well. Very similar back row and defensive play. The Lamoure/Central Cass game could be the best of the tournament. This should be one of the better State tourneys we have seen in quite some time. All 8 teams should represent pretty well. If Lamoure gets by CC, they should win the whole thing with their determination to not lose and having the best hitter and setter and defense in the state doesn't hurt.

by the looks of it it should be very competitive, but so far this first round has been lopsided.


I expected a bigger fight, I seen CC play this year and they were tough but they are playing against a team that refuses to lose. Maybe the Lamoure/Langdon championship game will be the best game of the weekend?

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:57 am
by sportsphenom
The only team I see beating LaMoure at this point is themselves.

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:19 am
by Sportsrube
scc wrote:
Sportsrube wrote:
B-oldtimer wrote:Heimer very good point on private schools. I wonder when class b is finally going to address this problem when these schools represent these regions in all sports in the state at least 60% of the time. The advantages they have is proven in there appearances in the state tournaments and yes there are other class b schools that can compete with them but what about the schools in there regions its not good for whole system if this continues.


I agree, but I am firmly convinced the the NDHSAA will never do anything to the private schools (for whatever reason) no matter how their member schools feel, vote, etc... Without a complete turnover at the NDHSAA offices and board, nothing will change.

Right, it won't change. Heimer's beating the dead horse until it's unrecognizable.


It's a dead horse as far as the head honchos at the NDHSAA and it's board are concerned, it is not a dead horse as far as a very large number of Class B AD's and coaches are concerned.

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:30 pm
by heimer
Membership driven.

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:09 pm
by vikingman
What radio station has the LLM game, and Valley City?

Re: 2017 STATE TOURNAMENT

PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:23 pm
by Flip
vikingman wrote:What radio station has the LLM game, and Valley City?

KOVC: HSVB – Valley City vs. Century 7pm
TED: HSVB – LaMoure/LM vs. Our Redeemers 7pm