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Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2018 8:56 am
by airmail
Looking at some of the tournaments scores, it looks like there is good parity between to the top teams in the state. It'll be interesting to see how the scores from Des Lacs this coming weekend turn out. That tournament seems to always be a good barometer of the strength of the top teams state-wide.

Agreed with the above posts - Region 1 will be a dog fight, Thompson could control their own destiny in Region 2 (Mayville I think has biggest spoiler opportunities), Another good batch of talented teams in Region 3, and Region 4 is an absolute snoozer.

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:37 pm
by airmail
Class B QRF Rankings 10-1-18
Top 20

1 Langdon Area/Munich (24-2) 130.8
2 Northern Cass (22-1-1) 124.5
3 Thompson (20-1-1) 123.6
4 Oakes (18-2) 118.3
5 Dickinson Trinity (25-5) 111.9
6 Oak Grove (18-3) 109.6
7 Our Redeemer (24-7-1) 105.1
8 Carrington (15-7) 102.6
9 LaMoure/Litchville-Marion (20-7) 101.9
10 Hettinger/Scranton (20-5-1) 97.0
11 Center-Stanton (25-7) 94.4
12 Linton/H-M-B (22-9) 92.8
13 Napoleon/Gackle-Streeter (16-7) 88.9
14 Rugby (18-1) 88.1
15 Central Cass (15-6-1) 87.7
16 Park River/Fordville-Lankin (16-10) 84.3
17 North Star (15-4-1) 84.1
18 Richland (15-9) 82.7
T-19 Hankinson (21-4-1) 81.5
T-19 Shiloh Christian (21-8-1) 81.5

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:44 pm
by The Schwab
Looks like region contenders are:

1- Northern Cass, Oak Grove, Central Cass, Richland, Hankinson
2- Thompson, PRFL
3- Oakes, Carrington, LLM, LHMB, NGS
4- Langdon, North Star
5- Center-Stanton, Shiloh
6- Our Redeemers, Rugby
7- Trinity, Hettinger-Scranton
8- None in top 20

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:22 pm
by HighSchoolSportsFan
Interesting to see this year that the top 5 teams in the lastest QRF are all from different regions. In fact 6 different regions are represented in the top 7 teams. Great to see that parity between regions. Last 2-3 years it has been too bad that teams like MPB, North Star and Carrington haven't made it to the state tournament.

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:33 pm
by sportsfan111
Carrington sweeps Oakes (25-23, 25-15, 25-16). Kadyn Mehring and Nichole Shmidtz are very fun volleyball players to watch. I expect we will see 2 more rematches come tournament time...

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:40 am
by The Schwab
Dickinson swept Hettinger-Scranton last night, would expect to see these two play again this season.

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:40 pm
by Flip
A few random questions about class B.
1) has there ever been an undefeated state champ?
2) fewest set losses in a regular season? LLM had 5 last season
3) fewest set losses for an entire season?

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:34 pm
by Jack Squad
Flip wrote:A few random questions about class B.
1) has there ever been an undefeated state champ?
2) fewest set losses in a regular season? LLM had 5 last season
3) fewest set losses for an entire season?


I would check out Hankinson in 2014. They were undefeated until the state championship game when they lost to North Star and didn't go to a 5th until the state semi-finals. According to MaxPreps, they lost 3 sets in the regular season. They won 3-1 against Central Cass in the regional final and went 6-5 in the state tournament.

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:38 pm
by kboftw
Flip wrote:A few random questions about class B.
1) has there ever been an undefeated state champ?
2) fewest set losses in a regular season? LLM had 5 last season
3) fewest set losses for an entire season?
Unless I'm remembering incorrectly, I think Langdon had a pretty impressive run to a title back in 2010. They lost one set in the state tournament. They may have only had one loss in the regular season - to Wyndmere-Lidgerwood.

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:10 pm
by HighSchoolSportsFan
I believe that is correct. They were 45-1 that season and lost 7 sets all year.
Langdon did go undefeated in 2003. They were 45-0 and lost 7 sets that year as well.

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:48 pm
by Flip
HighSchoolSportsFan wrote:I believe that is correct. They were 45-1 that season and lost 7 sets all year.
Langdon did go undefeated in 2003. They were 45-0 and lost 7 sets that year as well.

wouldn't that be a total of 8 sets? 5 in the state tournament and 3 during the regular season.

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2018 11:02 pm
by leroybla
Check out Central Cass in 2002. I believe they had very few losses in the regular season and none at the state tournament.

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2018 12:05 am
by Run4Fun2009
Jack Squad wrote:
Flip wrote:A few random questions about class B.
1) has there ever been an undefeated state champ?
2) fewest set losses in a regular season? LLM had 5 last season
3) fewest set losses for an entire season?


I would check out Hankinson in 2014. They were undefeated until the state championship game when they lost to North Star and didn't go to a 5th until the state semi-finals. According to MaxPreps, they lost 3 sets in the regular season. They won 3-1 against Central Cass in the regional final and went 6-5 in the state tournament.


Hankinson went 35-1 in 2014...MaxPreps tends to have errors on it (duplicate games tend to occur often...)

viewtopic.php?f=66&t=12350

By my count...Hankinson had 10 sets lost that season (all data is on this site...as I did scores the same way back then)...they lost 5 sets at State That year (3 in the Title Loss and 2 to Hazen in the Semifinals).

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:10 am
by T reporter
What is the term used when the volleyball teams score more than 25 points for a win like 28-26?
Overtime? Baseball extra innings?

Also is there a record for consecutive aces?

Was at a match last week one kid had 5 consecutive aces. I have seen 3 a few times and 4 once but never 5.
Thanks

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2018 11:37 am
by Ball4Him
T reporter wrote:What is the term used when the volleyball teams score more than 25 points for a win like 28-26?
Overtime? Baseball extra innings?


I don't know if there is a technical term for it. I've always heard it called "extra play."

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 3:07 pm
by badRef2
I usually just call them deuce games, borrowing terminology from tennis. Any set where a team wins by 2. This may included 25-23 sets, but for me I'm interested in how teams do in tight sets in general, and not just sets that go to extra points.

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:11 am
by Flip
Run4Fun2009 wrote:REGION 8
Monday, November 5th
M1: 16-1 Stanley def. 15-4 Parshall 3-0 (25-4, 25-19, 25-13)
M2: 16-3 Ray def. 15-2 Trinity Christian 3-0 (25-13, 25-15, 25-16)
M3: 16-4 Divide County def. 15-1 Trenton 3-0 (25-21, 25-22, 25-20)
M4: 16-2 Kenmare def. 15-3 Alexander 3-0 (25-15, 25-10, 25-9)

This is crazy. District 16 sweeps 15. All 3 matches are 3-0 and all but one of the matches are non-competitive.

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 12:16 am
by Run4Fun2009
Flip wrote:
Run4Fun2009 wrote:REGION 8
Monday, November 5th
M1: 16-1 Stanley def. 15-4 Parshall 3-0 (25-4, 25-19, 25-13)
M2: 16-3 Ray def. 15-2 Trinity Christian 3-0 (25-13, 25-15, 25-16)
M3: 16-4 Divide County def. 15-1 Trenton 3-0 (25-21, 25-22, 25-20)
M4: 16-2 Kenmare def. 15-3 Alexander 3-0 (25-15, 25-10, 25-9)

This is crazy. District 16 sweeps 15. All 3 matches are 3-0 and all but one of the matches are non-competitive.


Not at all crazy. District 15 is pretty poor for VB. Trenton was only team with above .500 record coming into the Region tournament. Parshall made the Region tournament with 3 or 4 wins (D15 does the WORST job of reporting scores...for any sport).

Records of the teams from D15 that made Regions (excluding their loss tonight): Trenton (18-9), Trinity Christian (5-12), Alexander (10-11), Parshall (3-17)...I was missing several results from all teams EXCEPT Trenton (records of the 2 teams that did not qualify for Regions: New Town (5-13) & White Shield (1-13)!!).

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:03 pm
by Flip
can you ever remembering that happening before? is there something comparable that happened in basketball?

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:05 pm
by Run4Fun2009
Flip wrote:can you ever remembering that happening before? is there something comparable that happened in basketball?


A whole district sweeping and/or blowing out another district in Regions. I think it's happened several times before some of these regions went to the 'super region' format. I'd have to research it tonight or tomorrow to give examples.

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:39 pm
by The Schwab
Here are the district sweeps I could find dating back to 2011
2015- 9 and 12
2014- 12 and 16
2013- 2, 3 and 12
2012- 2 and 9
2011- 6

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 2:51 pm
by Run4Fun2009
The Schwab wrote:Here are the district sweeps I could find dating back to 2011
2015- 9 and 12
2014- 12 and 16
2013- 2, 3 and 12
2012- 2 and 9
2011- 6


I’ve got data going back to the 90s at home (for BBB, GBB & VB)...I will look into it tonight/tomorrow

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 3:25 pm
by Flip
The Schwab wrote:Here are the district sweeps I could find dating back to 2011
2015- 9 and 12
2014- 12 and 16
2013- 2, 3 and 12
2012- 2 and 9
2011- 6

were any of the sweeps 3-0 in all 4 matches?

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:01 pm
by The Schwab
Flip wrote:
The Schwab wrote:Here are the district sweeps I could find dating back to 2011
2015- 9 and 12
2014- 12 and 16
2013- 2, 3 and 12
2012- 2 and 9
2011- 6

were any of the sweeps 3-0 in all 4 matches?


District 12 in 2014 and a lot of the others had 3 matches that were 3-0 and one that was 3-1.

Re: General Volleyball Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:13 pm
by Run4Fun2009
The Schwab wrote:
Flip wrote:
The Schwab wrote:Here are the district sweeps I could find dating back to 2011
2015- 9 and 12
2014- 12 and 16
2013- 2, 3 and 12
2012- 2 and 9
2011- 6

were any of the sweeps 3-0 in all 4 matches?


District 12 in 2014 and a lot of the others had 3 matches that were 3-0 and one that was 3-1.


2014 for District 12...none of the sets were close either (25-15 was closest set)