Cavalier and Surrounding Area Baseball

Cavalier and Surrounding Area Baseball

Postby Rivershark » Fri May 04, 2018 10:10 am

Looking at the list of past State Champions, it wasn't too long ago that Cavalier won the state title 3 years in a row from 2002-2004. Now they are struggling to stay out of the bottom of the Region. The same can be said for Drayton and their strong history of baseball. What's going on with baseball and why are some teams excelling while others are rapidly declining. I'm sure some people will think that families are spending more time at the lakes, but that can't be said for all teams.
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Re: Cavalier and Surrounding Area Baseball

Postby packers21 » Mon May 07, 2018 9:38 am

Rivershark wrote:Looking at the list of past State Champions, it wasn't too long ago that Cavalier won the state title 3 years in a row from 2002-2004. Now they are struggling to stay out of the bottom of the Region. The same can be said for Drayton and their strong history of baseball. What's going on with baseball and why are some teams excelling while others are rapidly declining. I'm sure some people will think that families are spending more time at the lakes, but that can't be said for all teams.


Not many ppl are going to the lake in March April and the beginning of May. I would say its a variety of things and each school varies. In Cavalier most of the best athletes don't even play baseball anymore, Drayton is getting smaller and smaller but they did play in a Region Championship a few years ago. Then there are the kids that wold rather sit at home and play games.
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Re: Cavalier and Surrounding Area Baseball

Postby ndlionsfan » Mon May 07, 2018 10:51 am

I would also say the popularity of baseball is rapidly declining in the youth. Doesn't seem like much follow the MLB anymore and if they have free time it's used to play basketball instead of getting people together to play baseball or even just catch or BP. Big difference from the 80s and 90s.
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Re: Cavalier and Surrounding Area Baseball

Postby steel » Mon May 07, 2018 11:26 am

I would say that other teams in the region are playing alot more Babe Ruth and Legion baseball, like Langdon, PRFL, Grafton while Cavalier hasn't had a team for over 10 years and many years the path to the state was blocked by Grafton who was loaded. Today it all comes down to pitching and the number of good arms you can throw with pitch counts and having talent doesn't hurt also. The old saying, You get out of it, what you put into it rings true. Summer baseball helps make spring champions.
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Re: Cavalier and Surrounding Area Baseball

Postby classB4ever » Tue May 08, 2018 10:36 am

Numbers. Baseball, golf and track all going on at the same time.
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Re: Cavalier and Surrounding Area Baseball

Postby B-oldtimer » Sun May 13, 2018 11:36 am

Cavalier not having summer program for baseball I believe is there problem for not being more competitive in baseball. You can't produce a baseball team without having kids that play baseball in the summer. High school season is to short and usually not played in best of conditions for baseball. Cavalier community just hasn't invested in summer baseball I think it has something to do with parents now want to go to lake and summer baseball interferes with this. I find it ironic that baseball is sport for a lot of kids because size doesn't matter as much its more hand eye coordination and thinking man's game where a lot of kids can do quite well at if they play the game regularly you don't have to be tall or large to play baseball as you do with basketball and football. The Cavalier Area with Walhalla, Neche, and Pembina to draw kids from should be able to come up with numbers to have both Baberuth and legion baseball between those towns there are over 250 kids in high school so there should be more than enough to have baseball team.
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Re: Cavalier and Surrounding Area Baseball

Postby Flip » Sun May 13, 2018 8:23 pm

If you're a a serious baseball player what are you more proud of: a state legion title or a state HS title?
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Re: Cavalier and Surrounding Area Baseball

Postby NDPREP » Mon May 14, 2018 10:21 am

Used to be Legion until they split up the classes, now winning HS is more important to the kids. Since they split up some of the talent, there is more of the B champ would have beat the A champ sort of talk, or they won the B but I don't think they would have done as well at the A tournament.
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Re: Cavalier and Surrounding Area Baseball

Postby B-oldtimer » Wed May 16, 2018 9:56 am

I don't believe that because its still a honor win the state legion tournament. When they have let both A and B play in the regional tournaments our teams have done quite well with each division holding its own. What you're saying then double AA is only legion tournament that counts because of it being of the largest towns. All I will say is get over this split of A and B legion because it has been good for baseball but biggest complaint has been from A teams that don't go to state quite as often as they used too. Both divisions have there followers and these teams still play each other in the regular season it has been good thing for small town baseball in this state.
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Re: Cavalier and Surrounding Area Baseball

Postby Sportsrube » Wed May 16, 2018 11:39 am

B-oldtimer wrote:I don't believe that because its still a honor win the state legion tournament. When they have let both A and B play in the regional tournaments our teams have done quite well with each division holding its own. What you're saying then double AA is only legion tournament that counts because of it being of the largest towns. All I will say is get over this split of A and B legion because it has been good for baseball but biggest complaint has been from A teams that don't go to state quite as often as they used too. Both divisions have there followers and these teams still play each other in the regular season it has been good thing for small town baseball in this state.


Could not agree more. The biggest difference I have noticed between the A Teams and the B Teams is in the depth of the pitching staffs (With some exceptions) and at the bottom of the order or the bench. A number of B teams are playing much younger kids at the bottom of the order than the A teams are, but splitting them is good for Legion baseball.
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Re: Cavalier and Surrounding Area Baseball

Postby NDPREP » Fri May 18, 2018 7:43 am

I'm not saying I believe that either way, what I am telling you is I am around a lot of teams and the kids talk that way. Over the past 10 years the talk has shifted to HS ball, used to be they were excited for legion now HS takes precedence and is the driving factor. It is an honor to win it but they would rather win the HS one, not to mention it gets more press.
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