Flip wrote:The seeds seem reasonable.
WalkingStick wrote:I hate the 2/7 quadrant being regions that have already all played each all season…that’s why I would have liked to see those flipped.
WalkingStick wrote:NP got a bump by dominating their region whereas Cavalier looks to have gotten screwed by having the tougher region and closer games.
packers21 wrote:Flip wrote:The seeds seem reasonable.
Not if you are Cavalier
5-time state chump wrote:WalkingStick wrote:NP got a bump by dominating their region whereas Cavalier looks to have gotten screwed by having the tougher region and closer games.
So a couple things...I'm a Class A guy, so I don't have a horse in the race here.
1.) 9-Man doesn't use QRF, so the rest of my comments are moot. lol.
2.) I would ASSUME that the formula QRF uses, would REWARD you for winning tougher games. But apparently not? I haven't examined everyone's schedules to see if I agree/disagree with seeds. If there is a formula in place ahead of time to determine seeds, well then there really is no arguing seeds anyways.
3. ) QRF as of today (BEFORE final week), Cavalier would have been #6. We will see what it shows tomorrow when it is updated.
What is the criteria for seeding the top 8 teams in 9-man?
5-time state chump wrote:WalkingStick wrote:NP got a bump by dominating their region whereas Cavalier looks to have gotten screwed by having the tougher region and closer games.
So a couple things...I'm a Class A guy, so I don't have a horse in the race here.
1.) 9-Man doesn't use QRF, so the rest of my comments are moot. lol.
2.) I would ASSUME that the formula QRF uses, would REWARD you for winning tougher games. But apparently not? I haven't examined everyone's schedules to see if I agree/disagree with seeds. If there is a formula in place ahead of time to determine seeds, well then there really is no arguing seeds anyways.
3. ) QRF as of today (BEFORE final week), Cavalier would have been #6. We will see what it shows tomorrow when it is updated.
What is the criteria for seeding the top 8 teams in 9-man?
WalkingStick wrote:NP got a bump by dominating their region whereas Cavalier looks to have gotten screwed by having the tougher region and closer games.
From my thoughts, I had 3/4 flipped and 7/8 flipped. I hate the 2/7 quadrant being regions that have already all played each all season…that’s why I would have liked to see those flipped.
BelfieldBantams wrote:WalkingStick wrote:NP got a bump by dominating their region whereas Cavalier looks to have gotten screwed by having the tougher region and closer games.
From my thoughts, I had 3/4 flipped and 7/8 flipped. I hate the 2/7 quadrant being regions that have already all played each all season…that’s why I would have liked to see those flipped.
Interesting vote. I just went thru all the schedules and basically the coaches said the difference between seeds 3, 4, and 5 was interesting. Mayville loses by 2 two point plays to #1 and defending champs. Cavalier plays a JV team and one of the worst Class A teams this year and they get rewarded for that?? Seems odd. Then I might be wrong, but I don't see a good team on North Prairie's schedule. So beating nobody is better than playing and losing to #1 by 4 yards??
BelfieldBantams wrote:WalkingStick wrote:NP got a bump by dominating their region whereas Cavalier looks to have gotten screwed by having the tougher region and closer games.
From my thoughts, I had 3/4 flipped and 7/8 flipped. I hate the 2/7 quadrant being regions that have already all played each all season…that’s why I would have liked to see those flipped.
Interesting vote. I just went thru all the schedules and basically the coaches said the difference between seeds 3, 4, and 5 was interesting. Mayville loses by 2 two point plays to #1 and defending champs. Cavalier plays a JV team and one of the worst Class A teams this year and they get rewarded for that?? Seems odd. Then I might be wrong, but I don't see a good team on North Prairie's schedule. So beating nobody is better than playing and losing to #1 by 4 yards??
NDPREP wrote:QRF is actually what that is for and where it actually shows up, comparing teams who don't have overlaps and dont play each other, thats why its used in other states at that point. IF everyone is playing everyone you don't need the arbitrary formula.
Bacon wrote:packers21 wrote:Flip wrote:The seeds seem reasonable.
Not if you are Cavalier
Why? Because they will probably have to play Lamoure in the playoffs? Have to beat who they put in front of you weather that is in the playoffs or in Fargo.
Bacon wrote:packers21 wrote:Flip wrote:The seeds seem reasonable.
Not if you are Cavalier
Why? Because they will probably have to play Lamoure in the playoffs? Have to beat who they put in front of you weather that is in the playoffs or in Fargo.
scc wrote:5-time state chump wrote:NDPREP wrote:QRF is actually what that is for and where it actually shows up, comparing teams who don't have overlaps and dont play each other, thats why its used in other states at that point. IF everyone is playing everyone you don't need the arbitrary formula.
I agree with you. That is WHAT QRF is for.
NDHSAA had regions partnered up, which in turn makes QRF practically useless. I stand by my initial statement. Having the coaches rank the teams was a good idea.
Bacon wrote:packers21 wrote:Flip wrote:The seeds seem reasonable.
Not if you are Cavalier
Why? Because they will probably have to play Lamoure in the playoffs? Have to beat who they put in front of you weather that is in the playoffs or in Fargo.
ChickenNuggets wrote:Next year 9-man will have four regions of 10 teams in each region. No one will be playing any non-regional games at all as they will have 9-game Regional Schedules. How does QRF work in that situation? Theoretically if there is 4 undefeated region champions, wouldn't they all have the exact same QRF score?
5-time state chump wrote:ChickenNuggets wrote:Next year 9-man will have four regions of 10 teams in each region. No one will be playing any non-regional games at all as they will have 9-game Regional Schedules. How does QRF work in that situation? Theoretically if there is 4 undefeated region champions, wouldn't they all have the exact same QRF score?
One factor that should eliminate having the same QRF score, would be point differential in those 9 games.
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