bison football73 wrote:Does anybody know how the bracket looks after the second round? If a region champion was to lose in the second round would the team who beat them take over their seed in the bracket?
WalkingStick wrote:bison football73 wrote:Does anybody know how the bracket looks after the second round? If a region champion was to lose in the second round would the team who beat them take over their seed in the bracket?
They all still have a seed of 1, 2, 3 out of the region which will play into home seeds in case of upsets...but the seeding of 1-8 for Region champs opens the door for cross state brackets and the possibility for an ALL East or ALL West Final
https://ndhsaa.com/regulations/football
9B
-Top three teams in each region as determined by region record will qualify for the playoffs
-Coaches vote will rank the eight region champs and seed them #1-8. All eight region champs will receive a bye in the first round
-First round matchups
Reg 2 #2 vs Reg 1 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 1 #1 in second round
Reg 1 #2 vs Reg 2 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 2 #1 in second round
Reg 4 #2 vs Reg 3 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 3 #1 in second round
Reg 3 #2 vs Reg 4 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 4 #1 in second round
Reg 6 #2 vs Reg 5 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 5 #1 in second round
Reg 5 #2 vs Reg 6 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 6 #1 in second round
Reg 8 #2 vs Reg 7 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 7 #1 in second round
Reg 7 #2 vs Reg 8 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 8 #1 in second round
bison football73 wrote:WalkingStick wrote:bison football73 wrote:Does anybody know how the bracket looks after the second round? If a region champion was to lose in the second round would the team who beat them take over their seed in the bracket?
They all still have a seed of 1, 2, 3 out of the region which will play into home seeds in case of upsets...but the seeding of 1-8 for Region champs opens the door for cross state brackets and the possibility for an ALL East or ALL West Final
https://ndhsaa.com/regulations/football
9B
-Top three teams in each region as determined by region record will qualify for the playoffs
-Coaches vote will rank the eight region champs and seed them #1-8. All eight region champs will receive a bye in the first round
-First round matchups
Reg 2 #2 vs Reg 1 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 1 #1 in second round
Reg 1 #2 vs Reg 2 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 2 #1 in second round
Reg 4 #2 vs Reg 3 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 3 #1 in second round
Reg 3 #2 vs Reg 4 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 4 #1 in second round
Reg 6 #2 vs Reg 5 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 5 #1 in second round
Reg 5 #2 vs Reg 6 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 6 #1 in second round
Reg 8 #2 vs Reg 7 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 7 #1 in second round
Reg 7 #2 vs Reg 8 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 8 #1 in second round
See this is what I don't get. What happens after round 2? What is going to determine who Lamoure plays in the 3rd round (assuming they make it)? For example, if a team like Hettinger is the #8 seeded region champion but they get beat by a team like Napoleon or Grant County are they automatically playing Lamoure in the 3rd round?
The Schwab wrote:bison football73 wrote:WalkingStick wrote:bison football73 wrote:Does anybody know how the bracket looks after the second round? If a region champion was to lose in the second round would the team who beat them take over their seed in the bracket?
They all still have a seed of 1, 2, 3 out of the region which will play into home seeds in case of upsets...but the seeding of 1-8 for Region champs opens the door for cross state brackets and the possibility for an ALL East or ALL West Final
https://ndhsaa.com/regulations/football
9B
-Top three teams in each region as determined by region record will qualify for the playoffs
-Coaches vote will rank the eight region champs and seed them #1-8. All eight region champs will receive a bye in the first round
-First round matchups
Reg 2 #2 vs Reg 1 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 1 #1 in second round
Reg 1 #2 vs Reg 2 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 2 #1 in second round
Reg 4 #2 vs Reg 3 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 3 #1 in second round
Reg 3 #2 vs Reg 4 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 4 #1 in second round
Reg 6 #2 vs Reg 5 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 5 #1 in second round
Reg 5 #2 vs Reg 6 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 6 #1 in second round
Reg 8 #2 vs Reg 7 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 7 #1 in second round
Reg 7 #2 vs Reg 8 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 8 #1 in second round
See this is what I don't get. What happens after round 2? What is going to determine who Lamoure plays in the 3rd round (assuming they make it)? For example, if a team like Hettinger is the #8 seeded region champion but they get beat by a team like Napoleon or Grant County are they automatically playing Lamoure in the 3rd round?
Yes. Once the 8 seeds are set we will know what the whole bracket will look like. There will be no re-seeding of teams
bison football73 wrote:WalkingStick wrote:bison football73 wrote:Does anybody know how the bracket looks after the second round? If a region champion was to lose in the second round would the team who beat them take over their seed in the bracket?
They all still have a seed of 1, 2, 3 out of the region which will play into home seeds in case of upsets...but the seeding of 1-8 for Region champs opens the door for cross state brackets and the possibility for an ALL East or ALL West Final
https://ndhsaa.com/regulations/football
9B
-Top three teams in each region as determined by region record will qualify for the playoffs
-Coaches vote will rank the eight region champs and seed them #1-8. All eight region champs will receive a bye in the first round
-First round matchups
Reg 2 #2 vs Reg 1 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 1 #1 in second round
Reg 1 #2 vs Reg 2 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 2 #1 in second round
Reg 4 #2 vs Reg 3 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 3 #1 in second round
Reg 3 #2 vs Reg 4 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 4 #1 in second round
Reg 6 #2 vs Reg 5 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 5 #1 in second round
Reg 5 #2 vs Reg 6 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 6 #1 in second round
Reg 8 #2 vs Reg 7 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 7 #1 in second round
Reg 7 #2 vs Reg 8 #3 – winner will play vs Reg 8 #1 in second round
See this is what I don't get. What happens after round 2? What is going to determine who Lamoure plays in the 3rd round (assuming they make it)? For example, if a team like Hettinger is the #8 seeded region champion but they get beat by a team like Napoleon or Grant County are they automatically playing Lamoure in the 3rd round?
The Schwab wrote:my thoughts would be that we should have the region 2 and 3 seeds play each other like in the current plan. After the first round you seed them 1-16.
The Schwab wrote:my thoughts would be that we should have the region 2 and 3 seeds play each other like in the current plan. After the first round you seed them 1-16.
WalkingStick wrote:The Schwab wrote:my thoughts would be that we should have the region 2 and 3 seeds play each other like in the current plan. After the first round you seed them 1-16.
Similar to SD? Don't they reseed at some point
Then the question arises...who reseeds them because ND isn't like SD and has the logics to think up a quality formula (they could mimic it or create a similar one but that would be too easy to think of...)
ChickenNuggets wrote:So if I get this right (The way the brackets work, not the seeding!)- Hypothetically it could look like this:
#1- LLM vs. Bye
R1-3 MVE vs. R2-MPCG
#8- Hettinger/Scranton vs. Bye
R5#2 South Border vs. R6#3 Mott/Regent
#5- Bottineau vs. Bye
R3#2 New Rockford vs. R4#3 St. John
#4- Ray/Powers Lake vs. Bye
R7#2 Lewis & Clark/Berthold vs R8#3 Tioga
#3- Cavalier vs. Bye
R1#2 Wyndmere/Lidgerwood vs. R2 #3 FSHP
#6- Nelson County vs. Bye
R4#2 North Prairie vs. R3#3 Northstar
#7- Surrey vs. Bye
R8#2 Divide County vs. R7#3 Mohall/L/S
#2- New Salem vs. Bye
R6#2- Grant County/Flasher vs. R5#3 Napoleon
The one thing I don't like about this is that the first two rounds potentially feature a lot of rematches from the regular season. The way the regions are paired for playoffs are exactly the same as they were paired for non-conference play at the beginning of the year. You could still use geographical neighboring conferences, but go the other direction. Instead of North/South go East West.
Region 1 vs. Region 5
Region 2 vs. Region 3
Region 4 vs. Region 7
Region 6 vs. Region 8
Bacon wrote:Does it really matter who plays who and when they play? If your team is good enough, you win and move on. If not your season is done and you go home. The best teams will end up in the dome. If you can’t beat them in the playoffs, you won’t beat them at State.
Bacon wrote:Well, relying on weather or some other external factor to try to win a game is probably not the best thing. I have seen a bye week to be detrimental as well. So I’m not sure that is a positive either way. It all comes down to does one team have the talent to beat the other. Hoping one team is banged up so they can win is kind of stupid.
Bacon wrote:Does it really matter who plays who and when they play? If your team is good enough, you win and move on. If not your season is done and you go home. The best teams will end up in the dome. If you can’t beat them in the playoffs, you won’t beat them at State.
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