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PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:08 am
by rep
Gtowngamers wrote:The amount of all region players you get is based on the amount of wins you have, first place getting the most and so on. All state is voted on by coaches at the dakota bowl. Most of the time the quarterback who wins the title game gets first team but not always.

i thought it was voted on prior to the title games?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:15 am
by fb_fan
Sometimes they meet on Saturday after the Championship game to vote for all state. It is when the state has time to get the coaches together to vote.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 4:05 pm
by kobe4mvp
Tyler Allery of Dunseith broke Jim Kleinsaucers state record for most yards in a game than went on to break his own record for the most yards in a game.. I believe 509 yards in total yards

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2007 6:23 pm
by ndlionsfan
What two teams did he end up breaking these records against?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 11:15 am
by unanimous
Ya, I've seen that guy play....n he's pretty tough...that was one of the only players dunseith had this year.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:23 pm
by 9manfootballmom
Mitch Lang from Central McLean will be a shoe in for All State

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:55 pm
by Ocho Siete
Hinsa wrote:How about Bill Breen, Hillsboro, O-line. He's playing center and controlling the middle of the field for the Burros ground game. 6'0", 220+, gets great leverage on his run blocking.


After watching the Napoleon game, I really gotta agree with you there. Breen broke his hand on the first quarter and was still the premier blocker on the o-line, matching up against Napoleon's line/LB's very well.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:02 pm
by johndeere
Hinsa wrote:Thanks for the education Pfenix! Sounds like MR could make it all the way to the Dome?


They have to make it through Divide County first and thats not going to be to easy.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:16 pm
by 3nout
9manfootballmom wrote:Mitch Lang from Central McLean will be a shoe in for All State


What does he play? How many yards etc..? Did his coach nominate him for the honor?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:35 pm
by 9manfootballmom
Mitch is a linebacker and a full back and I don't know if his coaches nominated him or not. It is supposed to be confidential. As far as yards, I guess I should find that out but ...he is noted for his huge blocks that allowed his running back Frankie Lopez to average about 100 yards per game. The full back does get recognized for things other than yards? right? I'll get the stats and let you know. thanks

I do know that he was an all state linebacker last year and he broke many school records too.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:20 pm
by imperials
mccleary,laber,gross

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 10:34 pm
by kobe4mvp
ndlionsfan wrote:What two teams did he end up breaking these records against?


he broke the state record against Tri-County and then he broke his own record against Maddock... and it was my mistake on the first comment 503 yards not 509 yards but that still is pretty impressive.. he also had 5 touchdowns to go along with it against Maddock

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:21 am
by philshometown
All-Region 2

Hillsboro: Andrew Grothmann, Jake Olsen, Aaron Meyer, Bill Breen, James Horne, Anthony VonRuden.

Northern Cass: Jake Lako, Brett Kyser.

Finley-Sharon-Hope-Page: Dillan Ostrom, James Ihry, Zane Follman, Eric Parkman, Derek Oxton.

Wyndmere-Lidgerwood: Zach Puetz, Garret Heitkamp, Chris McKay, Jason Hoots.

Richland: John Besette, Jay Bachman, Juan Enriquez.

Hankinson: Jamie Mauch, Curtis Krump, Jake Brandenburger.

Barnes County North: Tucker Bartlett.

Griggs County Central: Brock Urness.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:27 am
by point/center
philshometown wrote:All-Region 2

Hillsboro: Andrew Grothmann, Jake Olsen, Aaron Meyer, Bill Breen, James Horne, Anthony VonRuden.

Northern Cass: Jake Lako, Brett Kyser.

Finley-Sharon-Hope-Page: Dillan Ostrom, James Ihry, Zane Follman, Eric Parkman, Derek Oxton.

Wyndmere-Lidgerwood: Zach Puetz, Garret Heitkamp, Chris McKay, Jason Hoots.

Richland: John Besette, Jay Bachman, Juan Enriquez.

Hankinson: Jamie Mauch, Curtis Krump, Jake Brandenburger.

Barnes County North: Tucker Bartlett.

Griggs County Central: Brock Urness.

including the Honorable Mention EVERY Burro made it....wow....impressive or is that a chink in the honor of what All-Region represents?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 11:18 am
by unanimous
here's a correction for a previous post....

Tyler Allery of Dunseith broke the record with 503 yards...

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:34 pm
by ndlionsfan
I think only 18 players (2 groups of 9) should make all-region and maybe 9 honorable mention. Most regions have 8 teams and probably have 10-11 main players so 27 out of 85 getting an award is about 30% with an award. Most bball tournaments usually have 10 players on the all-tourney team (2 groups of 5). All-district and All-region in bball is usually 10-12 players and no honorable mention. I think if too many awards are given out that it is not as much of an honor anymore.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:22 pm
by Hinsa
It appears that all-region is numbers based: You finish first, you get 6; second, you get 5, and so on down the line. At least that's what the Region 2 results seem to indicate.

Is it the same in other regions?

If it is strictly numbers based, I would like to see it changed. Perhaps make it a position by position thing - so many QBs, so many RBs, so many linemen, so many linebackers, etc. A strict numbers formula based on the team's finish in the region to me really does a disservice to some potentially deserving kids. Did Barnes County North really only have one athlete deserving of all-region? GCC? On the other hand, did Hillsboro really deserve 6? Did FSHP really deserve 5?

I don't know, I'm just asking the question.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:38 pm
by ifoughtpiranhas
Grothman - Hillsboro (LB)
Bessette - Richland (LB)
Carpenter - North Border (2nd Team QB or LB)
Nichols - Dakota Prairie (1st Team QB)
Johanssen - Lakota (RB)
Gross - Napoleon (DB)
McCleary - Napoleon (LB)
Chale - North Border (WR)
Luehring - Dakota Prairie (WR)

There are obviously more kids deserving of being All-State - these were just the kids that came to mind first

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 1:48 pm
by ndlionsfan
Hinsa wrote:It appears that all-region is numbers based: You finish first, you get 6; second, you get 5, and so on down the line. At least that's what the Region 2 results seem to indicate.

Is it the same in other regions?

If it is strictly numbers based, I would like to see it changed. Perhaps make it a position by position thing - so many QBs, so many RBs, so many linemen, so many linebackers, etc. A strict numbers formula based on the team's finish in the region to me really does a disservice to some potentially deserving kids. Did Barnes County North really only have one athlete deserving of all-region? GCC? On the other hand, did Hillsboro really deserve 6? Did FSHP really deserve 5?

I don't know, I'm just asking the question.




I think it is pretty much the same in all regions. It is number based and it depends on where your team finished in the region standings. I would like to see it changed as well.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 7:42 pm
by north_border_eagles2106
ifoughtpiranhas wrote:Grothman - Hillsboro (LB)
Bessette - Richland (LB)
Carpenter - North Border (2nd Team QB or LB)
Nichols - Dakota Prairie (1st Team QB)
Johanssen - Lakota (RB)
Gross - Napoleon (DB)
McCleary - Napoleon (LB)
Chale - North Border (WR)
Luehring - Dakota Prairie (WR)

There are obviously more kids deserving of being All-State - these were just the kids that came to mind first

I'm not even going to try and pick between Carpenter and Nichols but since Tanner was the Region 3 Athlete of the Year he'd probably get the nod at first team QB wouldn't you think?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:27 pm
by wildguy131
mitch lang is definitely a good contender. ive seen him play and he can run the ball very good, as well as knock some heads around on defense. Gross from Napoleon also deserves to be an all-state player.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:32 pm
by pakkyzoo
north_border_eagles2106 wrote:
ifoughtpiranhas wrote:Grothman - Hillsboro (LB)
Bessette - Richland (LB)
Carpenter - North Border (2nd Team QB or LB)
Nichols - Dakota Prairie (1st Team QB)
Johanssen - Lakota (RB)
Gross - Napoleon (DB)
McCleary - Napoleon (LB)
Chale - North Border (WR)
Luehring - Dakota Prairie (WR)

There are obviously more kids deserving of being All-State - these were just the kids that came to mind first

I'm not even going to try and pick between Carpenter and Nichols but since Tanner was the Region 3 Athlete of the Year he'd probably get the nod at first team QB wouldn't you think?


By the fact that Carpenter could possibly get it for first team LB or Safety. Nichols beat him in the playoffs and had better statistics. The reason Carpenter got senior player of the year is becuase he led his team to a region championship. Nichols led his team further in the playoffs.

Re: all-region, all-state players

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:37 pm
by north_border_eagles2106
pakkyzoo wrote:
north_border_eagles2106 wrote:
ifoughtpiranhas wrote:Grothman - Hillsboro (LB)
Bessette - Richland (LB)
Carpenter - North Border (2nd Team QB or LB)
Nichols - Dakota Prairie (1st Team QB)
Johanssen - Lakota (RB)
Gross - Napoleon (DB)
McCleary - Napoleon (LB)
Chale - North Border (WR)
Luehring - Dakota Prairie (WR)

There are obviously more kids deserving of being All-State - these were just the kids that came to mind first

I'm not even going to try and pick between Carpenter and Nichols but since Tanner was the Region 3 Athlete of the Year he'd probably get the nod at first team QB wouldn't you think?


By the fact that Carpenter could possibly get it for first team LB or Safety. Nichols beat him in the playoffs and had better statistics. The reason Carpenter got senior player of the year is becuase he led his team to a region championship. Nichols led his team further in the playoffs.

I'm not going to get into the playoff run between these two again because I don't want this topic locked but I still think it's too close to call. I don't see tanner being all state at safety since he didn't play safety at all this year.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:02 am
by pakkyzoo
north_border_eagles2106 wrote:
pakkyzoo wrote:
north_border_eagles2106 wrote:
ifoughtpiranhas wrote:Grothman - Hillsboro (LB)
Bessette - Richland (LB)
Carpenter - North Border (2nd Team QB or LB)
Nichols - Dakota Prairie (1st Team QB)
Johanssen - Lakota (RB)
Gross - Napoleon (DB)
McCleary - Napoleon (LB)
Chale - North Border (WR)
Luehring - Dakota Prairie (WR)

There are obviously more kids deserving of being All-State - these were just the kids that came to mind first

I'm not even going to try and pick between Carpenter and Nichols but since Tanner was the Region 3 Athlete of the Year he'd probably get the nod at first team QB wouldn't you think?


By the fact that Carpenter could possibly get it for first team LB or Safety. Nichols beat him in the playoffs and had better statistics. The reason Carpenter got senior player of the year is becuase he led his team to a region championship. Nichols led his team further in the playoffs.

I'm not going to get into the playoff run between these two again because I don't want this topic locked but I still think it's too close to call. I don't see tanner being all state at safety since he didn't play safety at all this year.


I am just relaying a message I heard from sources a lot higher then me and has a to do with the picking of the all state team. I am not disagreeing with Carpenter being worthy of first team all state QB.

It makes me more happy that there are two players worthy of being the first team QB in the state that are both in the same region. We also have a good chance of getting 3 or 4 wideouts from Region 3 and 2 runningbacks.

Region 3 locks will be Nichols at QB, Carpenter QB, LB, or S, and Johanson RB.
Other possibilites.... WR's Luehring(DP), Chale (NB), and Smith (NB), RB Severson (DP), LB's Brodell (DP) and Olderbaak (Lakota), Offensive Lineman Susa (DP) and Huetenan (NB).
I am thinkings its going to be tough for them not select Luehring (39 catches 950 yards and 22 td's) and Chale (800+ yards and 15 tds). Severson ran for 1500 yards. Brodell had 160 tackles. Susa and Huetenan both led their o-lines for two powerful offenses on successful teams.

This makes me the most happy. Region 2 was supposed to be the top dog, but Region 3 had the most teams playing at the end. Region 1 is going to state. I think Region 3 gains a little more respect after this year. DP played Napolean tougher than Hillsboro. Next year Hillsboro will tough as nails though.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:14 am
by BballFan1307
i wouldnt say region 2 was really the top dog. you can say dp played napoleon tougher, but then what do you say about hillsboro crushing lakota? and each dp and nb barely squeakin away with wins against lakota. i would say region 2 had the best competition 1 - 7. richland almost took down dp, but then thompson almost beat fshp. wyndmere almost beat nb. it's really a toss up , but i would say teams like hankinson and northern cass are a little better than midway and drayton.