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Re: 2017 State Playoffs

Postby ndfootball4444 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:20 pm

REGION 1 & 2
G1: W-N-G @ (W)HVC- HVC keeps rolling.
G2: Oak Grove @ (W) CARRINGTON- Game of Regions 1&2. Carrington holds them off @ home in a close one.

G3: Stanley @ (W)DICKINSON TRINITY
G4: Killdeer @ (W)DES LACS- Going to be a good game imo. Des Lacs in a close one.

G5: Hazen @ (W)VELVA
G6: Bishop Ryan @ (W)BEULAH-Can they give powerhouse Beulah @ home a good game????

G7: Kindred @ (W)LANGDON-KIndred hangs with them the first quarter.
G8: Harvey @ (W) EEK-Keeps rolling.
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby defensewinsgames » Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:03 pm

G1: R2 #4 Westhope-Newburg-Glenburn (5-3) @ R1 #1 Hillsboro-Central Valley (8-0).
G2: R1 #3 Oak Grove (6-2) @ R2 #2 Carrington (7-1). I will take Carrington in a close game. I think this will be one of the best games of the weekend and it will boil down to who can slow down the other's run game.

G3: R3 #4 Stanley (4-4) @ R4 #1 Dickinson Trinity (6-1)
G4: R4 #3 Killdeer (6-2) @ R3 #2 Des Lacs-Burlington (7-1). I think this will be another interesting matchup. I think that Des Lacs gets a win but that it will be a tough game.

G5: R4 #4 Hazen (4-4) @ R3 #1 Velva/Sawyer (8-0)
G6: R3 #3 Bishop Ryan (6-2) @ R4 #2 Beulah (7-1). This one intrigues me as I think it says a lot about the playoff chances of Beulah. If they come out and impress it will make me feel alot better about their ability to give Langdon or Hillsboro in later matchups.

G7: R1 #4 Kindred (4-4) @ R2 #1 Langdon/Edmore/Munich (8-0). I will take Langdon to win. I think this one has the potential to be interesting if Kindred comes out and plays the best game of their season it may not be as lopsided as some people think.
G8: R2 #3 Harvey-Wells County (4-4) @ R1 #2 Ellendale/Edgeley-Kulm (7-1)
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby EEDA » Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:25 pm

G1: R2 #4 Westhope-Newburg-Glenburn (5-3) @ R1 #1 Hillsboro-Central Valley (8-0)
G2: R1 #3 Oak Grove (6-2) @ R2 #2 Carrington (7-1)

G3: R3 #4 Stanley (4-4) @ R4 #1 Dickinson Trinity (6-1)
G4: R4 #3 Killdeer (6-2) @ R3 #2 Des Lacs-Burlington (7-1)

G5: R4 #4 Hazen (4-4) @ R3 #1 Velva/Sawyer (8-0)
G6: R3 #3 Bishop Ryan (6-2) @ R4 #2 Beulah (7-1)

G7: R1 #4 Kindred (4-4) @ R2 #1 Langdon/Edmore/Munich (8-0)
G8: R2 #3 Harvey-Wells County (4-4) @ R1 #2 Ellendale/Edgeley-Kulm (7-1)
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby zennytrill5 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:08 am

G1: R2 #4 Westhope-Newburg-Glenburn (5-3) @ R1 #1 Hillsboro-Central Valley (8-0) — H-CV is the clear cut favorite to win it all and I think they will. However, they'll take it one game at a time and first up is W-N-G. I have H-CV winning big against these guys and Grant Skager will have another strong performance as no defense has been able to match him up all season. H-CV 42-6

G2: R1 #3 Oak Grove (6-2) @ R2 #2 Carrington (7-1) — UPSET OF THE WEEK! I haven't seen Carrington play this season but from what I've read I think Oak Grove can make some noise. Oak Grove has a physical line on both sides of the ball and if Hoggarth can get going early I think the momentum can pull the Grovers to an upset win. Oak Grove 20-12

G3: R3 #4 Stanley (4-4) @ R4 #1 Dickinson Trinity (6-1) — Dickinson Trinity should have no problem taking care of business. Dickinson Trinity 32-12

G4: R4 #3 Killdeer (6-2) @ R3 #2 Des Lacs-Burlington (7-1) — Decent matchup but not sure Killdeer can pull off the upset. Des Lacs-Burlington 26-6

G5: R4 #4 Hazen (4-4) @ R3 #1 Velva/Sawyer (8-0) — Not much to say about this one. Velva-Sawyer wins big.

G6: R3 #3 Bishop Ryan (6-2) @ R4 #2 Beulah (7-1) — I'm all about the upsets, baby. I think Bishop Ryan has the weapons to take these cats down. Bishop Ryan 16-12

G7: R1 #4 Kindred (4-4) @ R2 #1 Langdon/Edmore/Munich (8-0) — They will win this one but cannot look ahead to their next game. Need to stay focused on a missdirection team in Kindred before getting ready for the next round. L/E/M 40-12

G8: R2 #3 Harvey-Wells County (4-4) @ R1 #2 Ellendale/Edgeley-Kulm (7-1) — Oh jeez, did the Thunder get the worst pull of them all. They will defeat Harvey-Wells County 36-0 because of their physicality. But dang did the defending state champions get unluckily. However, great teams thrive on situations like this.

--- Should be another fun tournament season. I think H-CV is good enough at every position and defensively, offensively and on special teams to defeat anyone. I really think they are a step above every other team.
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby The Schwab » Mon Oct 16, 2017 10:48 am

Not a prediction but can anyone else remember a time where a teams only loss came to a team that didn't make the playoffs? That's the case for Dickinson Trinity this year and their loss to Bowman.
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby And1 » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:01 pm

G1: R2 #4 Westhope-Newburg-Glenburn (5-3) @ R1 #1 Hillsboro-Central Valley (8-0) - H/CV wins big, more physical, more depth, just a better rounded team. 52-12
G2: R1 #3 Oak Grove (6-2) @ R2 #2 Carrington (7-1)
- Carrington at home in a shootout, two good run teams but i believe Carrington can mix in a pass game as well i see them winning. 31-28
G3: R3 #4 Stanley (4-4) @ R4 #1 Dickinson Trinity (6-1) - Dont know much about these teams but ill take DT. 30-18
G4: R4 #3 Killdeer (6-2) @ R3 #2 Des Lacs-Burlington (7-1) 24-18

G5: R4 #4 Hazen (4-4) @ R3 #1 Velva/Sawyer (8-0) 30-0
G6: R3 #3 Bishop Ryan (6-2) @ R4 #2 Beulah (7-1) 26-16

G7: R1 #4 Kindred (4-4) @ R2 #1 Langdon/Edmore/Munich (8-0) UPSET ALERT - I feel Langdon is a great team and deserving to move on through the playoffs but i just have a feeling Kindred will pull trough and get it going early. 42-35 Dont quote me :lol:
G8: R2 #3 Harvey-Wells County (4-4) @ R1 #2 Ellendale/Edgeley-Kulm (7-1) E/E/K breaks the curse and wins in Edgeley with physicality and a more balanced attack. 34-6

Also, can anybody answer this if Velva/Sawyer and EEK make it to Game 14 of the playoffs would Velva/Sawyer or EEK host?
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby EEDA » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:11 pm

Velva would host because they are a #1 seed while EEK is a #2. If 2 like seeded teams would meet, the team with the higher QRF rating would be the home team.
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby MNTwinsFan » Mon Oct 16, 2017 12:43 pm

G1: R2 #4 Westhope-Newburg-Glenburn (5-3) @ R1 #1 Hillsboro-Central Valley (8-0) - H/CV wins big 30+
G2: R1 #3 Oak Grove (6-2) @ R2 #2 Carrington (7-1) Cardinals by 6
G3: R3 #4 Stanley (4-4) @ R4 #1 Dickinson Trinity (6-1) Trinity by 18
G4: R4 #3 Killdeer (6-2) @ R3 #2 Des Lacs-Burlington (7-1) DLB by 12

G5: R4 #4 Hazen (4-4) @ R3 #1 Velva/Sawyer (8-0) Velva wins big 30+
G6: R3 #3 Bishop Ryan (6-2) @ R4 #2 Beulah (7-1) Beulah by 14
G7: R1 #4 Kindred (4-4) @ R2 #1 Langdon/Edmore/Munich (8-0) Langdon by 22
G8: R2 #3 Harvey-Wells County (4-4) @ R1 #2 Ellendale/Edgeley-Kulm (7-1) EEK by 20
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby Oldblue » Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:07 pm

HCV is a machine and will not be stopped. They will be your champions
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby Barfly » Mon Oct 16, 2017 5:51 pm

G1: R2 #4 Westhope-Newburg-Glenburn (5-3) @ R1 #1 Hillsboro-Central Valley (8-0)
G2: R1 #3 Oak Grove (6-2) @ R2 #2 Carrington (7-1)
G3: R3 #4 Stanley (4-4) @ R4 #1 Dickinson Trinity (6-1)
G4: R4 #3 Killdeer (6-2) @ R3 #2 Des Lacs-Burlington (7-1)

G5: R4 #4 Hazen (4-4) @ R3 #1 Velva/Sawyer (8-0)
G6: R3 #3 Bishop Ryan (6-2) @ R4 #2 Beulah (7-1)
G7: R1 #4 Kindred (4-4) @ R2 #1 Langdon/Edmore/Munich (8-0)
G8: R2 #3 Harvey-Wells County (4-4) @ R1 #2 Ellendale/Edgeley-Kulm (7-1)
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby Rivershark » Mon Oct 16, 2017 11:34 pm

I don't see any team from the West making it to the Championship game. The East will continue their streak.
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby Barfly » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:04 am

Rivershark wrote:I don't see any team from the West making it to the Championship game. The East will continue their streak.


Who do you see making the semifinals?
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby Rivershark » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:47 am

Barfly wrote:
Rivershark wrote:I don't see any team from the West making it to the Championship game. The East will continue their streak.


Who do you see making the semifinals?


Hillsboro, Oak Groove, Trinity, Des Lacs, Velva, Beulah, Langdon, EEK

Hillsboro, Trinity, Beulah, EEK

Hillsboro, EEK

Hillsboro - reclassification worked out in their favor this year.
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby bball4 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:33 am

Rivershark wrote:
Barfly wrote:
Rivershark wrote:I don't see any team from the West making it to the Championship game. The East will continue their streak.


Who do you see making the semifinals?


Hillsboro, Oak Groove, Trinity, Des Lacs, Velva, Beulah, Langdon, EEK

Hillsboro, Trinity, Beulah, EEK

Hillsboro, EEK

Hillsboro - reclassification worked out in their favor this year.


Couldn't agree more with that working in their favor. Stating the obvious...I watch teams like Oak Grove and Enderlin/MV dress 20 kids for a game & most kids play both ways. Tough to compete with a team that dresses double that. I am sure some Hillsboro kids play both ways but I would guess it's quite a few less than the others.

Would really like to see a rematch of EEK/Hillsboro.
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby The Schwab » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:58 am

bball4 wrote:
Rivershark wrote:
Barfly wrote:
Rivershark wrote:I don't see any team from the West making it to the Championship game. The East will continue their streak.


Who do you see making the semifinals?


Hillsboro, Oak Groove, Trinity, Des Lacs, Velva, Beulah, Langdon, EEK

Hillsboro, Trinity, Beulah, EEK

Hillsboro, EEK

Hillsboro - reclassification worked out in their favor this year.


Couldn't agree more with that working in their favor. Stating the obvious...I watch teams like Oak Grove and Enderlin/MV dress 20 kids for a game & most kids play both ways. Tough to compete with a team that dresses double that. I am sure some Hillsboro kids play both ways but I would guess it's quite a few less than the others.

Would really like to see a rematch of EEK/Hillsboro.


I haven't seen any of the 3 teams play. I see that HCV has 44 players on their roster with 10 of them being freshman. I also see that Oak Grove and EMV both have 25 players on their roster with 2 freshman each. My question would be: How many freshman, if any, play major minutes for HCV? In my experience you don't see a lot of freshman contributing for a playoff football team. I could be way off on this, just an observation.
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby defensewinsgames » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:47 pm

I don't think that the roster size of HCV is what is doing it this year. There are other teams around the state that dressed 35+ kids are weren't nearly as good as HCV and didn't compete for the tops of their regions (Park River, Kindred, Milnor-North Sargent, Northern Cass). These are only the East teams (as an example). HCV benefits from having a crop of kids who are rare athletic talents all playing together. No different than Langdon (who doesn't have big numbers 25-30) has a really strong group of seniors. Like Schwab said you take off the 10 freshmen who don't contribute and numbers are the same as elsewhere. HCV has good athletes numbers help but if they had the same kids minus the 15-20 who don't play they would be just as good.
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby bball4 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:51 pm

The Schwab wrote:
bball4 wrote:
Rivershark wrote:
Barfly wrote:
Rivershark wrote:I don't see any team from the West making it to the Championship game. The East will continue their streak.


Who do you see making the semifinals?


Hillsboro, Oak Groove, Trinity, Des Lacs, Velva, Beulah, Langdon, EEK

Hillsboro, Trinity, Beulah, EEK

Hillsboro, EEK

Hillsboro - reclassification worked out in their favor this year.


Couldn't agree more with that working in their favor. Stating the obvious...I watch teams like Oak Grove and Enderlin/MV dress 20 kids for a game & most kids play both ways. Tough to compete with a team that dresses double that. I am sure some Hillsboro kids play both ways but I would guess it's quite a few less than the others.

Would really like to see a rematch of EEK/Hillsboro.


I haven't seen any of the 3 teams play. I see that HCV has 44 players on their roster with 10 of them being freshman. I also see that Oak Grove and EMV both have 25 players on their roster with 2 freshman each. My question would be: How many freshman, if any, play major minutes for HCV? In my experience you don't see a lot of freshman contributing for a playoff football team. I could be way off on this, just an observation.


Good observation because that does make a difference. No idea how much the freshman play. Also not sure if HCV has any injuries.
Bismarck St. Mary’s lists 37 on their roster 10-12... I would say that does compare to HCV 34 in 10-12. just some food for thought. I don’t know their enrollment so maybe that is a better guage. NDHSAA has their rules for a reason I guess and whether or not I think they should be in A is irrelevant :D
I was told that when oak grove played EMV, one team dressed 20 & the other dressed 21. By this time of the year, there always seems to be some crutches on the side lines for everyone. Even some inexperienced freshman can make a difference IMO.
Agreed @defensewinsgames, they are good. Remove the freshman and they are still good. I just think when it comes down to the 4th quarter, it matters. First a team needs to compete with them for the first 3 :D
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby defensewinsgames » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:18 pm

Numbers isn't the end all be all. I remember a few years ago Wells-County played in the championship (I think that was the Wyndmere State Championship but I don't remember) and had something like 11-13 kids dressed for a 9 man game. Yes numbers help a lot: you have more options, better competition in practice, can get kids breaks etc; but athletes always trump numbers. Like bball4 said, someone would have to be able to keep up with HCV and lose at the end of the 4th or in overtime to show me that numbers make a significant impact with that team. When your two closest games are 30 to 6 (Oak Grove) and 48-14 (EEK) that isn't numbers, it's superior talent.
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby zennytrill5 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 2:53 pm

The Schwab wrote:
bball4 wrote:
Rivershark wrote:
Barfly wrote:
Rivershark wrote:I don't see any team from the West making it to the Championship game. The East will continue their streak.


Who do you see making the semifinals?


Hillsboro, Oak Groove, Trinity, Des Lacs, Velva, Beulah, Langdon, EEK

Hillsboro, Trinity, Beulah, EEK

Hillsboro, EEK

Hillsboro - reclassification worked out in their favor this year.


Couldn't agree more with that working in their favor. Stating the obvious...I watch teams like Oak Grove and Enderlin/MV dress 20 kids for a game & most kids play both ways. Tough to compete with a team that dresses double that. I am sure some Hillsboro kids play both ways but I would guess it's quite a few less than the others.

Would really like to see a rematch of EEK/Hillsboro.


I haven't seen any of the 3 teams play. I see that HCV has 44 players on their roster with 10 of them being freshman. I also see that Oak Grove and EMV both have 25 players on their roster with 2 freshman each. My question would be: How many freshman, if any, play major minutes for HCV? In my experience you don't see a lot of freshman contributing for a playoff football team. I could be way off on this, just an observation.


Zero freshman for H-CV play major minutes. This season has been kind to the younger classmen, however, because H-CV has been beating up teams usually later in the game these freshman get playing time. Which if you look at it is kind of scary for other teams because H-CV is grooming kids for the years to come already. There are a handful of sophomores that play a lot. Carson Henningsgard, Oscar Benson (who is second on the team in tackles and sixth in all-purpose yards), Landon Reed, Ezra Longthorne and Isaac Luithle are all sophomores that contribute to this team.
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby Wilbur » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:45 pm

Not a prediction but can anyone else remember a time where a teams only loss came to a team that didn't make the playoffs? That's the case for Dickinson Trinity this year and their loss to Bowman.

Schwab, that is a rare occurrence these days with multiple teams from each region making the playoffs, but that wasn’t the case back in the day when only one team made the playoffs from each conference/region. In 1975, Napoleon won the State Class B 9-Man title with an 11-1 record, and its only loss was to Linton, which did not make the playoffs.
In 1978, Zeeland defended its State Class B 9-Man title and finished the season at 11-1. The only loss was to Linton, which did not make the playoffs despite having only one loss. Linton’s only loss was to Emmons Central, which did not make the playoffs, either.
These are just three examples off the top of my head, but I am sure I could find a lot more if I researched it. However, I agree that very few have occurred since the four classes were implemented for football.
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby The Schwab » Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:47 pm

Wilbur wrote:Not a prediction but can anyone else remember a time where a teams only loss came to a team that didn't make the playoffs? That's the case for Dickinson Trinity this year and their loss to Bowman.

Schwab, that is a rare occurrence these days with multiple teams from each region making the playoffs, but that wasn’t the case back in the day when only one team made the playoffs from each conference/region. In 1975, Napoleon won the State Class B 9-Man title with an 11-1 record, and its only loss was to Linton, which did not make the playoffs.
In 1978, Zeeland defended its State Class B 9-Man title and finished the season at 11-1. The only loss was to Linton, which did not make the playoffs despite having only one loss. Linton’s only loss was to Emmons Central, which did not make the playoffs, either.
These are just three examples off the top of my head, but I am sure I could find a lot more if I researched it. However, I agree that very few have occurred since the four classes were implemented for football.


I guess that's what I was really referring to, was the 4 class system.
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby Flip » Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:34 pm

Wilbur wrote:Not a prediction but can anyone else remember a time where a teams only loss came to a team that didn't make the playoffs? That's the case for Dickinson Trinity this year and their loss to Bowman.

2011 Napoleon lost to Hankinson 6-0 in OT. Napoleon's only loss of the season as they went on to win the state title.
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby Run4Fun2009 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:03 pm

Flip wrote:
Wilbur wrote:Not a prediction but can anyone else remember a time where a teams only loss came to a team that didn't make the playoffs? That's the case for Dickinson Trinity this year and their loss to Bowman.

2011 Napoleon lost to Hankinson 6-0 in OT. Napoleon's only loss of the season as they went on to win the state title.


Yep and Hankinson only won 3 games that year
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Re: Playoff Prediction Thread

Postby The Schwab » Tue Oct 17, 2017 8:19 pm

Run4Fun2009 wrote:
Flip wrote:
Wilbur wrote:Not a prediction but can anyone else remember a time where a teams only loss came to a team that didn't make the playoffs? That's the case for Dickinson Trinity this year and their loss to Bowman.

2011 Napoleon lost to Hankinson 6-0 in OT. Napoleon's only loss of the season as they went on to win the state title.


Yep and Hankinson only won 3 games that year


I remember that now that you mention it! Really, really bad weather that night if I remember right.

Edit: Really windy, Napoleon was a passing team. And the game didn't have any playoff implications for Napoleon, last game of the year.
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