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Re: 2018 Playoff Bracket

Postby Sniper » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:25 pm

magic man wrote:I don't speak for Bismarck, I only know about the Fargo area..

You do that of which I mentioned, and I'm sure the private schools will kindly go up a class.

Also, if small towns have more than 2 co-op schools, then they should go up as well.

And what about those schools like Northern Cass, Central Cass, and Kindred that are like suburbs of that metropolis of Fargo??

Shouldn't they be looked at the same way you do other public schools that are that close to such a large metropolis like Fargo? They shouldn't be allowed to play with the class B schools either.

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magic man wrote:If they would approve the private schools to offer sports scholarships and not have the same transfer rules as the as the rest of the Fargo public schools, I think those private schools in Fargo would sign up for playing up a class..

Get it signed Sniper and ND Sports Fan..


One of the Bismarck schools has gotten a decent amount of transfers in the past years (that happen to be athletes) while having the same transfer rules as everyone else. Also we do not expect the private schools to want to play up a class, why would they? They would lose their advantages over the small schools and would basically flip roles and not be the top dog in terms of advantages anymore.


You, me and everyone else knows the state is not going to do what you requested that I do. How does the number of small towns in a co-op matter? It is about the number of kids and the resources in their towns. There is a difference between living in a bigger city like Bismarck or Fargo than living in a smaller town outside of them. Most students in small schools do not live in town and live out of town, mostly on farms and ranches. I would rather the schools that are near the bigger cities have the advantage rather than the private schools in the bigger cities.
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Re: 2018 Playoff Bracket

Postby magic man » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:33 pm

You, me and everyone else knows the state is not going to do what you requested that I do. How does the number of small towns in a co-op matter? It is about the number of kids and the resources in their towns. There is a difference between living in a bigger city like Bismarck or Fargo than living in a smaller town outside of them. Most students in small schools do not live in town and live out of town, mostly on farms and ranches. I would rather the schools that are near the bigger cities have the advantage rather than the private schools in the bigger cities.


There aren't any, as you all say, "well off, rich folk" in those small towns that can send their kids to camps? Farm Money? Sugar Beet money? Oil field? No?

I guess it's just the city folk that have money and access.
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Re: 2018 Playoff Bracket

Postby ND Sports Fan » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:42 pm

magic man wrote:
ND Sports Fan wrote:
magic man wrote:If they would approve the private schools to offer sports scholarships and not have the same transfer rules as the as the rest of the Fargo public schools, I think those private schools in Fargo would sign up for playing up a class..

Get it signed Sniper and ND Sports Fan..


You will have to explain what you mean by this. I do not know what you're talking about. As I read it, you would like some sort of governance action blessing what the private schools are currently doing. Offering Sports scholarships, although they don't officially call them that, and having the same transfer rules as public schools. What transfer rules are you talking about? What you are asking for is EXACTLY what is providing the private schools their advantage right now.


To Correct you.
1) The private schools that I know about, in Fargo, do not offer Sports Scholarships..
2) Transfer rules.. You cannot transfer from a public HS to a private HS without sitting out a year, unless there is some kind of hardship that has to be approved by the NDHSAA.

If you think differently, prove it. Instead of talking about it, name names..


The transfer rule is the same whether public or private. The only way a student can transfer public to public without sitting a year of Varsity participation his if they move into the district. If it is an open enrollment situation, they still sit public to public. Same transfer rules.

There is no need to discuss the sports scholarship. Two people on the opposite side of this argument will never agree. It depends on Whose Ox is being gored. I will just tell you I know for a fact there are kids who are receiving sponsorships from families to attend private schools. You can title that whatever you want.
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Re: 2018 Playoff Bracket

Postby magic man » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:50 pm

ND Sports Fan wrote:
magic man wrote:
ND Sports Fan wrote:
magic man wrote:If they would approve the private schools to offer sports scholarships and not have the same transfer rules as the as the rest of the Fargo public schools, I think those private schools in Fargo would sign up for playing up a class..

Get it signed Sniper and ND Sports Fan..


You will have to explain what you mean by this. I do not know what you're talking about. As I read it, you would like some sort of governance action blessing what the private schools are currently doing. Offering Sports scholarships, although they don't officially call them that, and having the same transfer rules as public schools. What transfer rules are you talking about? What you are asking for is EXACTLY what is providing the private schools their advantage right now.


To Correct you.
1) The private schools that I know about, in Fargo, do not offer Sports Scholarships..
2) Transfer rules.. You cannot transfer from a public HS to a private HS without sitting out a year, unless there is some kind of hardship that has to be approved by the NDHSAA.

If you think differently, prove it. Instead of talking about it, name names..


The transfer rule is the same whether public or private. The only way a student can transfer public to public without sitting a year of Varsity participation his if they move into the district. If it is an open enrollment situation, they still sit public to public. Same transfer rules.

There is no need to discuss the sports scholarship. Two people on the opposite side of this argument will never agree. It depends on Whose Ox is being gored. I will just tell you I know for a fact there are kids who are receiving sponsorships from families to attend private schools. You can title that whatever you want.

That has nothing to do with the school providing that sponsorship. I can tell you for a fact that there are a ton of kids going to private schools that receive sponsorship's, that NEVER play a sport at all.
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Re: 2018 Playoff Bracket

Postby The Schwab » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:55 pm

ND Sports Fan wrote:
magic man wrote:
ND Sports Fan wrote:
magic man wrote:If they would approve the private schools to offer sports scholarships and not have the same transfer rules as the as the rest of the Fargo public schools, I think those private schools in Fargo would sign up for playing up a class..

Get it signed Sniper and ND Sports Fan..


You will have to explain what you mean by this. I do not know what you're talking about. As I read it, you would like some sort of governance action blessing what the private schools are currently doing. Offering Sports scholarships, although they don't officially call them that, and having the same transfer rules as public schools. What transfer rules are you talking about? What you are asking for is EXACTLY what is providing the private schools their advantage right now.


To Correct you.
1) The private schools that I know about, in Fargo, do not offer Sports Scholarships..
2) Transfer rules.. You cannot transfer from a public HS to a private HS without sitting out a year, unless there is some kind of hardship that has to be approved by the NDHSAA.

If you think differently, prove it. Instead of talking about it, name names..


The transfer rule is the same whether public or private. The only way a student can transfer public to public without sitting a year of Varsity participation his if they move into the district. If it is an open enrollment situation, they still sit public to public. Same transfer rules.

There is no need to discuss the sports scholarship. Two people on the opposite side of this argument will never agree. It depends on Whose Ox is being gored. I will just tell you I know for a fact there are kids who are receiving sponsorships from families to attend private schools. You can title that whatever you want.


If you change schools entering your freshman year you don't have to sit out (they may have changed this but I don't believe so).

There are ways around the transfer rules, I've seen it first hand, I'm not going to name names. Ways around it include: renting an apartment in new town and claiming it's your primary residence, having parents get a divorce (whether real or just for paperwork), hardships ( I have seen these granted and denied, no rhyme or reason.)

However, bending of the transfer rules isn't just public to private. I've seen it public to public as well.
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Re: 2018 Playoff Bracket

Postby magic man » Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:00 pm

The Schwab wrote:
ND Sports Fan wrote:
magic man wrote:
ND Sports Fan wrote:
magic man wrote:
If you change schools entering your freshman year you don't have to sit out (they may have changed this but I don't believe so).

There are ways around the transfer rules, I've seen it first hand, I'm not going to name names. Ways around it include: renting an apartment in new town and claiming it's your primary residence, having parents get a divorce (whether real or just for paperwork), hardships ( I have seen these granted and denied, no rhyme or reason.)

However, bending of the transfer rules isn't just public to private. I've seen it public to public as well.

Thank you..

I like your style Schwab.. We don't see eye to eye on small vs private schools, but you at least "get it" from both sides.
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Re: 2018 Playoff Bracket

Postby ND Sports Fan » Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:54 pm

The Schwab wrote:
ND Sports Fan wrote:
magic man wrote:
ND Sports Fan wrote:
magic man wrote:If they would approve the private schools to offer sports scholarships and not have the same transfer rules as the as the rest of the Fargo public schools, I think those private schools in Fargo would sign up for playing up a class..

Get it signed Sniper and ND Sports Fan..


You will have to explain what you mean by this. I do not know what you're talking about. As I read it, you would like some sort of governance action blessing what the private schools are currently doing. Offering Sports scholarships, although they don't officially call them that, and having the same transfer rules as public schools. What transfer rules are you talking about? What you are asking for is EXACTLY what is providing the private schools their advantage right now.


To Correct you.
1) The private schools that I know about, in Fargo, do not offer Sports Scholarships..
2) Transfer rules.. You cannot transfer from a public HS to a private HS without sitting out a year, unless there is some kind of hardship that has to be approved by the NDHSAA.

If you think differently, prove it. Instead of talking about it, name names..


The transfer rule is the same whether public or private. The only way a student can transfer public to public without sitting a year of Varsity participation his if they move into the district. If it is an open enrollment situation, they still sit public to public. Same transfer rules.

There is no need to discuss the sports scholarship. Two people on the opposite side of this argument will never agree. It depends on Whose Ox is being gored. I will just tell you I know for a fact there are kids who are receiving sponsorships from families to attend private schools. You can title that whatever you want.


If you change schools entering your freshman year you don't have to sit out (they may have changed this but I don't believe so).

There are ways around the transfer rules, I've seen it first hand, I'm not going to name names. Ways around it include: renting an apartment in new town and claiming it's your primary residence, having parents get a divorce (whether real or just for paperwork), hardships ( I have seen these granted and denied, no rhyme or reason.)

However, bending of the transfer rules isn't just public to private. I've seen it public to public as well.


I don't disagree with any of this Schwab.
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Re: 2018 Playoff Bracket

Postby ND Sports Fan » Thu Nov 08, 2018 6:02 pm

Getting back to the original message:

I will take St. Mary's over Shanley in the Private School Bowl. I believe it will be the best game of the day at the Dakota Bowl.
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Re: 2018 Playoff Bracket

Postby Sniper » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:01 pm

magic man wrote:
You, me and everyone else knows the state is not going to do what you requested that I do. How does the number of small towns in a co-op matter? It is about the number of kids and the resources in their towns. There is a difference between living in a bigger city like Bismarck or Fargo than living in a smaller town outside of them. Most students in small schools do not live in town and live out of town, mostly on farms and ranches. I would rather the schools that are near the bigger cities have the advantage rather than the private schools in the bigger cities.


There aren't any, as you all say, "well off, rich folk" in those small towns that can send their kids to camps? Farm Money? Sugar Beet money? Oil field? No?

I guess it's just the city folk that have money and access.


1. I have never said the phase "well off, rich folk" so do not put words in my mouth. I literally have no clue who you were trying to quote with that as I have not seen anyone use that phrase on here.

2. Yes, some farmers/ranchers have money, some do not. Either way most of these kids get home from practice and work for their parents, which means less time to do extra workouts after practices.

3. If a kid lives in Washburn and wants to attend Sanford Power in Bismarck they would have to spend about 80 minutes in their car commuting to and from Bismarck. This is over an hour of their day they would lose compared to the kids who live in Bismarck and only have a ten minute drive to Sanford. Also until these kids are able to drive themselves to Bismarck their parents would have to, and how many adults have time to take their kids to Bismarck and back very frequently? It is a lot easier when you live in Bismarck and can drop them off and come back when they are done. I do not understand how you do not see living closer to these facilities as an advantage.

4. Shiloh had their football team in the Sanford Power program this year, which is something that is not possible for the small towns in their region.
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