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PostPosted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 7:20 pm
by project-pat
the best ever is Steve Blehm...END OF ARGUMENT

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:57 am
by lotta bb
Yeah!Eaglestaff was something else. That also makes me think of Everett Chasing Hawk I think his name was. He could really shoot also.

Re: Best Class Be player ever

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:09 am
by SnuggleMuffin
Jaden Voth was hella good..
Probably the funnest kid to watch play basketball in class B

Re: Best Class Be player ever

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:49 pm
by Makotifarmguy
Pre-70's:
1. Steve Blehm- no way, no how can anyone dispute his achievements.
2. Jerry Pyle
3. Henry Milkey

Post-70's:
1. Gulseth
2. Berg
3. Boschee (if he was class B).
4. toss up between the following: Olsen, MacDonald, Haagenson, Lawrence, Fridley, Undlin, Jacobson, Buhr, and probably a few others I missed.

No way Kraft is in the top five between the two lists. Maybe in the top 20 all-time, but he isn't as high on the pedestal as some here like to put him.

Paul Shlafmann from Turtle Lake in the early 90s was amazing. To bad he got hurt his senior year in football. He had alot of D1 colleges looking at him.


Paul was a very good player. I played against AND WITH him many, many times but he isn't in the top 5. Even Fridley who beat him numerous times in the 1 on 1 tournament at Minot St. Basketball camp went to UND-Williston before NDSU.

Robert Lawrence went to LRSC if I am not mistaken and was an All-American. He had a very successful career at LRSC. Someone kind of aluded to him not going further. That is what he wanted to do and now I think he has his own team right there at at the Spirit Lake Reservation that goes and plays around the area.

Re: Best Class Be player ever

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:34 pm
by point/center
Boschee wasn't B unless you mean Jerry Boschee of Killdeer. Jeff was A at VC.

I'll throw a vote Buhr's way. Guy could take over a game.

Re: Best Class Be player ever

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:56 pm
by baseball
i dont think he was Class B but can someone tell me where Juno Pintar went to school? i wanna say Fargo South???

Re: Best Class Be player ever

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:59 pm
by Baller
baseball wrote:i dont think he was Class B but can someone tell me where Juno Pintar went to school? i wanna say Fargo South???



North

Re: Best Class Be player ever

PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:59 pm
by project-pat
baseball wrote:i dont think he was Class B but can someone tell me where Juno Pintar went to school? i wanna say Fargo South???


Fargo North

Re: Best Class Be player ever

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:53 pm
by Flying Wallenda
Regarding Schlafmen, he wasn't one of the top 10 guards in class b back in 92. I can name a few off the top of my head I'd take over schlafmen: Fridley, Haagenson, Piatz, Wold, Kluvers...just to name a few. I find it hard to believe he had so many D 's looking at him. If he did, I'm guessing Fridley would have been a D1 lock. Robert Lawrence could play. I wish he would have played after LRSC.

Re: Best Class Be player ever

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:57 am
by Flying Wallenda
I think he went to Mayville for a stretch quit before the season began.

Re: Best Class Be player ever

PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:39 pm
by Flying Wallenda
He must have played half the year or so I'm presuming?? I believe that was the year before Smith went to Mayville, I forget the previous coaches name, but from what I've been told his players didn't enjoy playing for him, on top of the fact that he recruited horribly. I'd have liked to see him their playing when Smith coached. I think Mayville went 0-29 in 03-04??

Re: Best Class Be player ever

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:41 pm
by ndfan
Flying Wallenda wrote:He must have played half the year or so I'm presuming?? I believe that was the year before Smith went to Mayville, I forget the previous coaches name, but from what I've been told his players didn't enjoy playing for him, on top of the fact that he recruited horribly. I'd have liked to see him their playing when Smith coached. I think Mayville went 0-29 in 03-04??


Yeah I cant remember the coaches name either i also believe he was the AD. They may have won one game that year but you are probably right that they didnt win a game.

Re: Best Class Be player ever

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:06 pm
by cubsfan
The coach was Terry Layton, and I believe they were 1-27. Their one win was by a couple points over Brandon University.[/quote]
Layton only did one thing right in his time at MSU and that was get Travis Lindgren.

Re: Best Class Be player ever

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:15 pm
by Flying Wallenda
You're giving Layton to much credit...Lindgren was recruited by Paul Grove, the coach prior to Layton. As a matter of fact, Lindgren was the "player representative" on the hiring board that hired Layton, who had previously just served as the AD.

Re: Best Class Be player ever

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:43 pm
by ndlionsfan
Lindgren was done playing when Layton was hired.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:50 pm
by jtdc492
ballin6 wrote:How can you average 47.3 ppg and only get all-state honorable mention?  That's just not right.



Back in those days All-State Team was A and B together not separated like it is now.

How about Larry Linson from Rolette back in early 70's. Hit 43pts at '73 state tourney consolation game. Maybe not best ever, but at least deserves a mention.

Re: Best Class Be player ever

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 12:27 am
by ticket0115
BEST PLAYER in the Early 90s.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:43 am
by east sider
ndlionsfan wrote:Did you play against Carr and Lindahl??  Its a bit different playing against someone than just watching them play. 


I know this topic is REALLY old but I guess legends never die, so I'll chime in...

I've played Kraft and Lindahl, Kraft was WAY better and deserves to be mentioned in the top 5, Lindahl doesn't. I read your posts and you usually know your stuff but its obvious where you're from and I'm gonna go out on a limb and say you did NOT see Kraft play his Sr. year. He got so much better that year and was playing at a different level than anyone I've seen before or since. Ultimately I wouldn't put Kraft in the top 5 b/c he wasn't the hardest worker and it didn't seem like he did everything he could to help his team like posting up on the block. But to compare Lindahl to Kraft is kind of a joke, sorry

Re: Best Class Be player ever

PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:28 am
by ndlionsfan
I played against Kraft his senior year. Also played against Lindahl that year even though he was only a freshmen.

Re: Best Class Be player ever

PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 1:52 pm
by east sider
ndlionsfan wrote:I played against Kraft his senior year. Also played against Lindahl that year even though he was only a freshmen.


Okay you failed to mention this before!! haha. Well I'm baffled why you feel he wasn't that good to you I guess. Got a list of questions for you if you don't mind

1. Why were you playing MP?
2. Did you win?
3. How did Kraft do? b/c if you held him under 25, that was good
4. How was Lindahl at that age, b/c I played him when he was older

Re: Best Class Be player ever

PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 3:30 pm
by ndlionsfan
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Kraft wasn't an excellent bball player I believe I was just arguing that he wasnt the top 5 in ND if I remember right. I thought Lindahl was because he is one of only two in ND history to get 2000 pts and 1000 rebs.

We played MPCG in the state tourney when Kraft was a senior. We won by 25 and held Kraft to 15 and Klabo to 2 pts and 1 reb in that game. We played against Cando in the first game of that season and Lindahl scored 10 but had a lot of blocks and a decent number of rebounds against us. He really started to come on later that season and probably would have scored 15-20 if we played them again.

Re: Best Class Be player ever

PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:50 pm
by roison33
ndlionsfan wrote:Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Kraft wasn't an excellent bball player I believe I was just arguing that he wasnt the top 5 in ND if I remember right. I thought Lindahl was because he is one of only two in ND history to get 2000 pts and 1000 rebs.

We played MPCG in the state tourney when Kraft was a senior. We won by 25 and held Kraft to 15 and Klabo to 2 pts and 1 reb in that game. We played against Cando in the first game of that season and Lindahl scored 10 but had a lot of blocks and a decent number of rebounds against us. He really started to come on later that season and probably would have scored 15-20 if we played them again.


Well sorry to say but you didn't play Kraft his Sr. year b/c he didn't go to state that year, that was his Jr. year. They lost to Hillsboro two or three times that year including the Region Championship, and that may have been their only losses but I'm not sure. Hillsboro had a solid, very in-shape team with Kacey Coles and Scotty Olsen, but they didn't fare well at state which was surprising.

And just to let you know Leeds was very fun to watch. Maybe not the best I've seen, but still one of my favorite teams ever. Moser was one of those rare players that not only had more skill than most players but also worked harder than anyone out there too. Kind of reminds me of that Singer kid, what do you think?

GO TEAM USA!!

Re: Best Class Be player ever

PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 6:51 pm
by east sider
roison33 is right. If you would have played against him his Senior year I'm sure you would have a little different opinion of his game. I also loved watching those Leeds teams as well, even the girls had some good talent back in the day.

Re: Best Class Be player ever

PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:28 am
by ndlionsfan
My bad, I thought he was a senior that year. Guess the memory is going now that I've hit 30. I'm glad you guys enjoyed watching us Leeds kids play back then. We always played hard and played as a team. This year's Northstar team plays a lot like we did back then, but they can put up a lot more points than we ever did.

Re: Best Class Be player ever

PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:29 am
by InTheKnow
Kraft's senior year it was pretty much Kraft, and Kraft as far as the team goes. I am over exaggerating a little but it was an all new crop of players. People forget in 1995 when MPCG lost to Carrington in the Semis Kraft was only an 8th grader while the main crew of Darren Klabo, Tom Jacobson, and Matt Swift were Sophmores. (Someone correct me if I am wrong) When they won state the following 2 seasons he was just a Freshman and Sophomore. (Also didnt he hit the game winner in the state title game his Fr year?) Had he played on a team where he would have been the only go to player from the time he was a freshman he would have scored 2,000 quite possibly very easy. He was a pure shooter and thats why he drew the attention of South Carolina.