Clark17 wrote:Ya and if the border would have been the 47th parallel we would have had hockey in every small town across North Dakota, thus a much better product, especially from the west in general. It really wouldn't have mattered though cause we would all be Canadian and we would be talking about AAA midgets on this forum. Do you guys find that somewhat amazing? Why did we get stuck with basketball?
Yes, hockey in this state would be greatly improved if we had as much attention devoted to it as say Canada or Minnesota does .However, we don't. We have to do it ourselves by providing incentive for younger kids to be able to get into the game, and then get them hooked on the great sport of Hockey. It's already working Grand Forks, Grafton, and Fargo is starting to convert as well. And Football/Class B Basketball seem to get all the attention in this state, even though if you compare them nationally as Hockey is at the end of each year, Hockey is far better talent wise (South was #23 last year out of 1700 teams after losing 3 games at the end of the season, and Red River and South in past years both had top 15 teams as well) We just need more interest in the game.
hockeyboss wrote:you cant really say the states plagued by grand forks teams being the only talent. was it last year south, tied moorhead 2-2, who later went on to take second in the state of minnesota? north dakota hockey isnt as low as people think it is, its just the low numbers as to a larger state like minnesota, causing us to put out only a few good teams a year.
Yes, but it appears to other people (just look at the past state championships and also who's played in them) that Grand Forks is all that North Dakota has. Even when Bismarck, North, Grafton or South throws out a good team into the mix, it doesn't add much recognition to our state, especially when one of these teams flops against a far lower rated team. (South last year, Bismarck last year, Red River in 08, etc) When that happens, it drops a national ranking like a rock since our teams have a lower numerical rating on scales due to the competition they face. Whereas when Edina dropped to Moorhead last year, they still took the #1 rating in the country because of who they had played and beaten before. It's a numbers game. The fact we don't have the numbers to consistently put out teams like this is also a big factor. Look at the Stadstad tournament, teams like Blaine and BJ left the tournament, likely because they weren't being challenged.
P4KNBD wrote:wow i have trouble thinking i am interpreting this right. you say that last year in the state tournament bismarck crushed red river? if you honestly believe that you have some problems
Honestly, not going over this again. But yes, Red River actually did get crushed, quite literally throughout the tournament. I mean Bismarck's goalie had nine saves. South's goalie had twelve, while both of these teams put up 40+ on Meland. Sometimes people say take a loss with a grain of salt, you ought to take the win with a grain of salt. Bismarck and South were better teams than RR.
gfhockey wrote:Idk if i really believe in that arguement of this team A beat this team B by 2 and that team B beat this team C by 1 so team A is better then team c
you do have a point in the ND hockey isnt as low that peopel think it is. THe top 3 ND team coukd comptete wiht the top 20 MN teams but after the top 3 or 4, it falls off dramatically IMO
The transitive property obviously doesn't work in sports or betting wouldn't occur, predictions wouldn't be needed, and none of the less skilled teams would ever need to play. That's the point of sports. Play to win every game. And ND hockey is great. There is generally a team every year that gets placed top 20-30 nationally, which is incredible if you think about it. The problem is that it just gets no attention from media, and we're isolated so it makes it difficult for scouts to reach out. That means it's the job of the players to get themselves out there on their own. They can't rely on scouts to come to them. And at that they have to prove that they're better than players from more 'pronounced' areas. Increasing the strength of the state as a whole would counter this.
P4KNBD wrote:Run4Fun2009 wrote:I'm going to predict a West Fargo vs. GF Central State Title game
west fargo? really?
Not likely, but not impossible either. Same goes for Century, but likely even less probable.
Probably not a state championship team, but West Fargo could very likely do something at state this year. There one of few teams getting better over the past few years and still at it.
just another guy wrote:Run4Fun2009 wrote:I'm going to predict a West Fargo vs. GF Central State Title game
HAHAHHA you clearly need to excuse yourself from the Hockey forums. West Fargo is not good as RR proved that last saturday (7-3) get it right West Fargo has never been good since mites and its definitely not going to start now in Varsity HIgh School Hockey.
A lot changes since mites. You'd be surprised. And that game was remarkably closer than the score.
just another guy wrote:Central is the messiest talented hockey team i have ever seen. Against west fargo last night they were so desperate to score a goal they were shooting from the goal line. The only thing that saved central was Aaron Hatt who is an absolute camper at the back door. Someone needs to get this kid a tent and marshmellows cause this kid is too lazy to move. But whatever scores the goals i guess
Central has great control over the game, but they've always struggled offensively. I don't know exactly what it is but they have trouble getting offensive flow going. They do control play effectively enough where it usually doesn't matter, but in games where getting goals is more difficult than going in and shooting they definitely do struggle.
south opens the season tonight though, also, wf beat north and other teams. but i was at the north wf game, and it was a close game till the last 5 mins. not impressed by wf