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Postby Wombat » Tue Sep 25, 2007 9:41 pm

ndfan wrote:[user=1043]cubsfan[/user] wrote:
They will have 6 seniors and 25 juniors.� This will make them more experienced.� They have a new quarterback who is supposed to be really good and Dustin Hagans is gonna help solidify the wide receiver position.� They have 2 jucos that will help them on the offensive line and return some very good linebackers.


Last year I heard that the new QB (Hagans) coming in was good and was gonna help them out, now he is a WR. So I'm not gonna believe any hype on a QB tell I see it. What about the running back position? Anyway I got no problem with you thinking they will win 4 I'd be glad to see that happen. I just hear more talk then walk when it comes to Mayville State Football.
 
Hagans originally was a D1 Wide Receiver in California so I think this will be a good fit... Also it could be nice to have 2 guys with QB experience on the field at the same time to run some trick plays!
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Postby ndfan » Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:35 pm

Mitch to me it seems like they still have NO offense at all and the defense is better then it was last year so they aren't giving up as many points as last year. But is that defense gonna be any better next year when they lose there stud linebackers?
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Postby rep » Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:34 am

how is barrett herr doing? he's stuck it out there for the long haul.
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Postby scc » Thu Sep 27, 2007 5:44 am

ndfan wrote:Mitch to me it seems like they still have NO offense at all and the defense is better then it was last year so they aren't giving up as many points as last year. But is that defense gonna be any better next year when they lose there stud linebackers?

It sounds like they can drive, but they can't score.  I'd like to know their red zone percentage.
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Postby PA42 » Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:43 am

rep wrote:how is barrett herr doing? he's stuck it out there for the long haul.
Barrett is the starting running back and so far he is done a nice job. He has carried the ball 82 times for 282 yards for 3.4ypc and 2 touchdowns. Last week he ran for his 700th yard for his career.
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Re: Mayville State FB

Postby scc » Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:29 pm

It looks like Mayville's only chance of avoiding the cellar in DAC conference play is SD School of Mines losing to Valley City tomorrow and then Mayville beating SD School of Mines next week. This is assuming Mayville loses tomorrow to Black Hills State. I know horne98 thinks they'll go 2-0 in these last two games, though. :wink:
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Re: Mayville State FB

Postby PA42 » Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:03 pm

It is disappointing they will be in the cellar but i think it is obvius to anyone who attended, listened, or even looks at the scores they have greatly improved. They have competed and had chances in every game this season. I don't think anyone can deny that their goal for him as a coach was to firstly put out a competitive team on the field. He has done that. And trust me it should be a good game tommorow.
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Postby dtvman » Sat Oct 27, 2007 5:24 am

NDSportsFan wrote: It's hard for some of the out-of-state kids to realize how small these four year colleges, and the towns they are in, are.  I know when I went to VCSU some of the kids had no idea where they were going until they got there.  Some of them panned out, and others thought they were too big time for that, so they left after the first year.  Small, isolated communty, cold weather, homesickness, it all adds up. 

The other part of it is the limited types of degrees. The choice of majors at a school like MaSU are really going to be limited.
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Re: Mayville State FB

Postby old lineman » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:03 pm

Barret Herr should get the toughest dude in the Dac award This kid played football for Mayville for 4 years, prior to that he played at Wishek, enough said.
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Re: Re:

Postby ndlionsfan » Wed Nov 21, 2007 9:15 am

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NDSportsFan wrote: It's hard for some of the out-of-state kids to realize how small these four year colleges, and the towns they are in, are.  I know when I went to VCSU some of the kids had no idea where they were going until they got there.  Some of them panned out, and others thought they were too big time for that, so they left after the first year.  Small, isolated communty, cold weather, homesickness, it all adds up. 

The other part of it is the limited types of degrees. The choice of majors at a school like MaSU are really going to be limited.


Maybe compared to UND/NDSU or a larger Div II school, but they have basically the same number of degrees as any other school in the DAC except possibly Minot.
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Re: Mayville State FB

Postby Wild Wolves » Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:21 am

Mayville does have fewer majors than the other DAC schools, I read it and don't recall the actual numbers but it was around 15 compared to 23-25 in the other schools. Granted some of teh programs offered by other schools aren't the kinds that attract FB players (nursing).
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Re: Mayville State FB

Postby Baller » Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:24 am

Now that is quite a stereotype...I know many Football players that have gone into nursing...They have either stayed nurses or gone on to Anasthesia (sp) school for which you need to be a nurse first!!
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Re: Mayville State FB

Postby ndlionsfan » Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:54 am

Wild Wolves wrote:Mayville does have fewer majors than the other DAC schools, I read it and don't recall the actual numbers but it was around 15 compared to 23-25 in the other schools. Granted some of teh programs offered by other schools aren't the kinds that attract FB players (nursing).


Well I just went to the Mayville website and counted their majors....22. Sounds like they're right up there with the other DAC schools. I'm sure Minot has more since they have about 4 times the students as Mayville, tho. The others are pretty comparable, even tho MaSU is probably the smallest school in the DAC
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Re: Mayville State FB

Postby Wild Wolves » Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:06 pm

According to the Mayville web site ther are 17 areas of study listed and at least three only include a minor.

Where did you find 22? Just curious.
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Re: Mayville State FB

Postby Wild Wolves » Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:12 pm

Also Dickinson, Minot and Valley all list over 30 areas of study (well over 30) but many would fall into teh same area, like history education and history.
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Re: Mayville State FB

Postby Hinsa » Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:33 pm

I certainly hope that the MSU coaches look at the blueprint of Jamestown - recruit local kids. A wonderful point was made on the Jimmies Playoff Bound thread - if you recruit local kids you will get more support for the alumni foundation.

It is hard to recruit blue-chip local players to Mayville, but I believe that is what has to be done. It's hard work, but it can be done. The once in a blue moon when Mayville has been competitive they have done it with a ton of local kids. And when you recruit local kids, the crowds tend to be bigger, which generates more revenue.

Come on Comet football, figure it out and get busy and recruit local kids and develop them into a competitive team.
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Re: Mayville State FB

Postby point/center » Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:05 pm

Hinsa wrote:I certainly hope that the MSU coaches look at the blueprint of Jamestown - recruit local kids. A wonderful point was made on the Jimmies Playoff Bound thread - if you recruit local kids you will get more support for the alumni foundation.

It is hard to recruit blue-chip local players to Mayville, but I believe that is what has to be done. It's hard work, but it can be done. The once in a blue moon when Mayville has been competitive they have done it with a ton of local kids. And when you recruit local kids, the crowds tend to be bigger, which generates more revenue.

Come on Comet football, figure it out and get busy and recruit local kids and develop them into a competitive team.


Im with you between Grand Forks and Fargo and all over Eastern ND there are enough players that MaSU just needs to convince them to take a little bit of money, come to Mayville and play some FB. It's cheaper than NDSU and UND but still close enough to stay connected to home. Dosch has proven it can be done. VCSU and MaSU should copy him.
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Re: Mayville State FB

Postby Wild Wolves » Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:25 pm

Baller wrote:Now that is quite a stereotype...I know many Football players that have gone into nursing...They have either stayed nurses or gone on to Anasthesia (sp) school for which you need to be a nurse first!!



Name five.

And that wasn't my point, nursing requires clinicals and those are difficult to schedule around practice and games.
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Re: Re:

Postby dtvman » Fri Nov 23, 2007 5:22 am

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dtvman wrote:
NDSportsFan wrote: It's hard for some of the out-of-state kids to realize how small these four year colleges, and the towns they are in, are.  I know when I went to VCSU some of the kids had no idea where they were going until they got there.  Some of them panned out, and others thought they were too big time for that, so they left after the first year.  Small, isolated communty, cold weather, homesickness, it all adds up. 

The other part of it is the limited types of degrees. The choice of majors at a school like MaSU are really going to be limited.


Maybe compared to UND/NDSU or a larger Div II school, but they have basically the same number of degrees as any other school in the DAC except possibly Minot.


I am not trying to compare any of the schools in the DAC to UND or NDSU. Every kid in ND who is looking at any of these schools should be fully aware of the situations at any school in the state. I am looking more at a kid from out of state, and I think that is what Lions is refering to as well. If you bring in a kid from a suburb of Chicago or maybe even Minneapolis, they may be coming from a high school that has as many or more students as the college. They start to wonder why they came to a town of 2000 to play football and get a degree in math, when they could have done the same thing much closer to home.
I agree that they should be focusing more on recruiting kids locally.
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Postby point/center » Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:54 am

dtvman wrote:
ndlionsfan wrote:
dtvman wrote:
NDSportsFan wrote: It's hard for some of the out-of-state kids to realize how small these four year colleges, and the towns they are in, are. I know when I went to VCSU some of the kids had no idea where they were going until they got there. Some of them panned out, and others thought they were too big time for that, so they left after the first year. Small, isolated communty, cold weather, homesickness, it all adds up.

The other part of it is the limited types of degrees. The choice of majors at a school like MaSU are really going to be limited.


Maybe compared to UND/NDSU or a larger Div II school, but they have basically the same number of degrees as any other school in the DAC except possibly Minot.


I am not trying to compare any of the schools in the DAC to UND or NDSU. Every kid in ND who is looking at any of these schools should be fully aware of the situations at any school in the state. I am looking more at a kid from out of state, and I think that is what Lions is refering to as well. If you bring in a kid from a suburb of Chicago or maybe even Minneapolis, they may be coming from a high school that has as many or more students as the college. They start to wonder why they came to a town of 2000 to play football and get a degree in math, when they could have done the same thing much closer to home.
I agree that they should be focusing more on recruiting kids locally.


I dont' disagree BUT staying closer to home they probably wouldnt get a scholarship or maybe even on the team?
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Re: Mayville State FB

Postby dtvman » Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:16 am

Any idea how much of a scholarship a school like MaSU can offer someone. When I graduated I looked at wrestling in Dickinson. I can't remember for sure if they could get me any money, if any it was very little. To me the chance to continue wrestling was not worth getting a degree for something I wasn't interested in. That is obviously not the case for everyone. I don't ever really regret my decision not to go there, but I am sure I would have regretted it if I had gone there and now was doing something I wasn't really interested in.
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Postby point/center » Fri Nov 23, 2007 7:25 am

dtvman wrote:Any idea how much of a scholarship a school like MaSU can offer someone. When I graduated I looked at wrestling in Dickinson. I can't remember for sure if they could get me any money, if any it was very little. To me the chance to continue wrestling was not worth getting a degree for something I wasn't interested in. That is obviously not the case for everyone. I don't ever really regret my decision not to go there, but I am sure I would have regretted it if I had gone there and now was doing something I wasn't really interested in.


I agree it's not much, but the combination of having a chance to keep playing and a bit of $$ might be what a kid from out-state is looking for. Not ready to hang up the cleats/sneakers just yet and a couple hundred bucks can sway an 18 year old, but you're right. To often it's 1 and done.
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Re: Mayville State FB

Postby Wild Wolves » Fri Nov 23, 2007 11:44 am

I think we need to consider that the cost of going to a place like Wisconsin or Iowa etc... is going to cost around 20,000 a year (yes that is a public school) coming to Mayville and paying a third of that and getting a degree and getting to play FB is a big deal. Our DAC schools offer an opportunity to athletes that may not be available to them otherwise.
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Re: Mayville State FB

Postby dtvman » Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:39 pm

Once again I am not saying these kids would be going to Iowa or the University of Wisconsin. I am talking about schools more the size of DAC schools. If the coaches can get the kids to come there more power to them, but they should not be suprised at all when the kid leaves because Mayville is too small for them.
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Re: Mayville State FB

Postby ndfan » Tue Dec 18, 2007 9:15 pm

DAC board somebody said there is a vacancy for the heading football coaching job at Mayville which would mean Ford stepped down. No clue if that is true and wondering if anybody has a clue if he did or not?
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