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Postby ndlionsfan » Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:41 am

I see that SI has the Bison ranked #61 overall and expects them to make the NCAA tourney. Do you think they can win the Summit tourney and qualify? That would be huge for a ND program.
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Re: NDSU Men's Bball

Postby The Schwab » Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:11 pm

yes without a doubt i think they can win the tourney....big early season test at the BSA against conference power Oral Roberts....december 4th.
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Postby tcbison » Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:05 pm

Go Bison! I think NDSU will be deeper this year and play more players. They will need to improve their defense and find ways to win on the road. If they can do that, they have a good shot at winning the Summit League. On offense, they should be just fine. The Seniors have been waiting for this since they arrived at NDSU. It will be a fun season to watch.
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Re: NDSU Men's Bball

Postby flatlander » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:00 pm

Yikes. NDSU absolutely blitzed Mayville State tonight... It was 48-6 at one point and NDSU ended up winning by 62.
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Re: NDSU Men's Bball

Postby basketball1427 » Wed Nov 19, 2008 5:50 pm

flatlander wrote:Yikes. NDSU absolutely blitzed Mayville State tonight... It was 48-6 at one point and NDSU ended up winning by 62.


wow that is an insane score i hope they keep it up and can end up makin it to the NCAA tourney
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Re: NDSU Men's Bball

Postby cubsfan » Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:36 pm

Hate to correct but NDSU ended up winning by 64, 128-64. I heard from some people around Mayville that NDSU could of put up about 200 if they would have let their starting five play more than 15 minutes.
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Re: NDSU Men's Bball

Postby baseball » Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:31 pm

I think NDSU is one of the best mid-majors in the country. They are a notch below Davidson and Gonzaga but I would put them up there with Witchita State.
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Re: NDSU Men's Bball

Postby Flip » Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:57 am

cubsfan wrote:Hate to correct but NDSU ended up winning by 64, 128-64. I heard from some people around Mayville that NDSU could of put up about 200 if they would have let their starting five play more than 15 minutes.

Why do they keep playing? Seriously, Mayville might have been able to beat some d2 teams at a time, but it is obviously not even close to competitive anymore vs. a team like NDSU.
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Re: NDSU Men's Bball

Postby ndlionsfan » Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:41 pm

I'm guessing NDSU pays Mayville to come and play them, and when you're a smaller college where its harder to generate funds, it helps. You would think now that NDSU is D1, Mayville would think more about playing D2 teams for their nonconference schedule. Maybe Mary, Northern St., Moorhead, etc.
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Re: NDSU Men's Bball

Postby The Schwab » Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:03 pm

ndlionsfan wrote:I'm guessing NDSU pays Mayville to come and play them, and when you're a smaller college where its harder to generate funds, it helps. You would think now that NDSU is D1, Mayville would think more about playing D2 teams for their nonconference schedule. Maybe Mary, Northern St., Moorhead, etc.


Yes they play them because NDSU pays mayville to come and play them....and Mayville also schedules games with Northern, Mary, SDSU, UND
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Re: NDSU Men's Bball

Postby Flip » Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:24 pm

I now that is why Mayville plays them, but why would you want to play them if you were NDSU?
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Re: NDSU Men's Bball

Postby ndlionsfan » Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:27 pm

Why does Kansas play Florida Gulf Coast? Same reason. It's a guaranteed nonconference win basically.
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Re: NDSU Men's Bball

Postby baseball » Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:39 pm

ndlionsfan wrote:Why does Kansas play Florida Gulf Coast? Same reason. It's a guaranteed nonconference win basically.


They are a team with 1 returning player who averages more then 4 minutes a game last year? 7 freshman they are trying to ease into Div1 college basketball? FGC is atleast Div 1 not NAIA.
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Re: NDSU Men's Bball

Postby baseball18 » Thu Nov 20, 2008 6:37 pm

All NAIA/Division 2 teams are seen as the same in terms of the RPI, only losing can hurt you, so I can see why NDSU scheduled Mayville. Nearily every good team schedules a patsy for their first game, not many teams are going to schedule a tough game right away, it's a way to start things fresh and get started on the right track. Plus, NDSU needs home games...

Duke played Presbyterian their first game, it is normal for teams to play a lower team to start off...
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Re: NDSU Men's Bball

Postby ndlionsfan » Thu Nov 20, 2008 7:39 pm

baseball wrote:
ndlionsfan wrote:Why does Kansas play Florida Gulf Coast? Same reason. It's a guaranteed nonconference win basically.


They are a team with 1 returning player who averages more then 4 minutes a game last year? 7 freshman they are trying to ease into Div1 college basketball? FGC is atleast Div 1 not NAIA.


I know its still a D1 opponent, but talent wise its about the same difference as NDSU/Mayville
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Re: NDSU Men's Bball

Postby baseball18 » Sun Nov 23, 2008 2:47 am

tough loss vs. Idaho, they need to improve their FT shooting and get more attempts as well
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Re: NDSU Men's Bball

Postby tcbison » Fri Nov 28, 2008 10:35 am

baseball18 wrote:tough loss vs. Idaho, they need to improve their FT shooting and get more attempts as well


Well, at least NDSU rebounded against NAU. Next up the Gophers! Men's basketball is one sport the Bison haven't beaten the Gophers at yet.
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Re: NDSU Men's Bball

Postby baseball18 » Mon Dec 08, 2008 10:35 pm

Big win over ORU on Thurs. can they win the Summit? I think they can...
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Re: NDSU Men's Bball

Postby stoaxc2004 » Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:59 am

WOODSIDE’S 60 NOT ENOUGH IN 3-OT LOSS

DES MOINES, Iowa – Pete Maravich, Stephen Curry, Lance Berwald … move over.

North Dakota State’s Ben Woodside became part of college basketball lore after he scored 60 points Friday night in Drake University’s Knapp Center.

The 60 points is the highest single-game scoring output of the NCAA Division I season, surpassing the two 44-point outputs by Curry, Davidson’s All-American guard. It not only shattered the Knapp Center scoring record by 21 points, it broke the NDSU single-game scoring record of 53 points set by Berwald in 1984.

Perhaps even more astounding is Woodside made 30 of 35 free throws – tying the NCAA record of free throws made set in 1969, when Louisiana State legend Pete Maravich made 30 of 31 free throws in a game against Oregon State.

Oh, by the way, Woodside and North Dakota State lost in three overtimes 112-111 to Stephen F. Austin in the first round of the Hy-Vee Classic – prompting the Drake student section to give Woodside a standing ovation when the 2-hour, 40-minute marathon finally ended.

“It was one of the best individual performances that I’ve ever seen,” said Stephen F. Austin coach Danny Kaspar, dropping names like Andrew Toney and Larry Nance of players he’s gone against in his 18 years of coaching.

“I don’t know if a coach could ask for any more out of any human being,” said Bison head coach Saul Phillips.

Woodside’s 60 points, eight assists and eight rebounds came in a city located about two hours south of his hometown of Albert Lea, Minn. His scoring outburst came against a Stephen F. Austin team that was ranked second nationally in scoring defense, giving up only 49.3 points per game.

His performance that vaulted him to the No. 2 slot on NDSU’s all-time scoring list (passing Jeff Askew and Joe Regnier) came in a game in which the Bison trailed 20-2 after the first 7½ minutes.

But the majority of his scoring came after the Bison trailed 63-44 with 9:04 left of regulation. Woodside scored 49 of his points during the final 8:50 of regulation and the 15 minutes of three overtimes.

“It was one of the best college basketball games I’ve been a part of,” Woodside said. “In a game like that, the adrenalin is flowing. You live for moments like that.”

Here are some shining moments:

- With 44.7 seconds left of regulation, Woodside drained two free throws to tie the score at 78-78. His offbalanced baseline jumper bounced off the rim, sending the game into overtime.

- With the Bison trailing 89-86 in the first overtime, Woodside penetrated into the lane before dishing out to Brett Winkelman, who drained a 3-pointer to tie the score.

- With 28.7 seconds left of the second overtime, Woodside’s two free throws gave the Bison a 100-97 lead. But Josh Alexander, last year’s Southland Conference player of the year, scored on a 3-point play to tie the score with 15 seconds left.

- In the final overtime and the Bison trailing 110-108, Woodside penetrated again – this time bumping into the Lumberjacks’ 6-foot-9 center Matt Kingsley.

“I knew I couldn’t shoot over him, so I had to scoop it under him,” Woodside said. “And I knew I had to put a little extra spin on the ball for it to go in.”

The shot dropped, Kingsley fouled him and Woodside drained another free throw to give the Bison a 111-110 lead with 18.1 seconds left.

With 4.4 seconds left, Walt Harris spun into the lane and sank a five-footer to give the Lumberjacks a 112-111 lead.

The Bison were awarded a timeout with three-tenths of a second left. Inbounding from under the Bison basket, Woodside lobbed the ball to Winkelman. But his quick shot bounced off the side of the rim.

“I had to make it a tip-in because of the time,” Winkelman said. “I got it clean. I honestly thought it was going in.”

Even though Woodside was upset with the loss, his performance goes down at the 21st-highest NCAA single-game scoring total vs. a Division I opponent.

“I have mixed emotions right now,” Woodside said, sitting on a bench outside the Bison locker room.

Moments later, Stephen F. Austin’s Kaspar told Woodside he would see him in the NCAA tournament.

“He’s got to be tired, that’s for sure,” Kaspar said, shaking his head. “We didn’t have anyone to stop him. But instead of blaming our guys’ defense, I would rather praise him. He was unbelievable.”

The Bison now have to prepare for today’s 5 p.m. game against Georgia Southern – a loser to host Drake.

“We better find a gas station tonight, because our gas tank was empty,” said Phillips, who struggled to find words to describe Woodside’s performance. “You simply run out of adjectives.”

SFA (5-2): Alexander 9-17 3-7 24, Shaw 5-6 0-0 12, Kingsley 7-14 9-11 23, Bell 3-3 0-0 8, Williams 11-18 1-3 25, Adams 2-8 4-4 8, Harris 3-3 3-3 9, Williams 0-1 0-0 0, McDaniel 0-3 2-4 2, Akpan 0-3 1-2 1, Smith 0-1 0-0 0, Scott 0-1 0-0 0. Totals: 40-78 (FG), 23-34 (FT).

NDSU (4-3): Winkelman 7-16 0-0 17, Tveidt 3-7 0-1 6, Moormann 5-7 0-0 10, Woodside 14-32 30-35 60, Nelson 4-9 0-0 12, Flowers 0-0 0-0 0, Coleman 0-2 0-0 0, Pennick 1-1 1-2 3, Carlson 1-4 1-2 3, Vaughan 0-0 0-0 0, Sussenguth 0-0 0-0 0. Totals: 35-78 (FG), 32-40 (FT).

Halftime: SFA 35, NDSU 28. 3-point goals: SFA 9-19 (Alexander 3-6, Shaw 2-2, Bell 2-2, Williams 2-3), NDSU 9-22 (Winkelman 3-7, Woodside 2-6, Nelson 4-7). Total fouls: SFA 32, NDSU 27. Fouled out: Shaw, Williams, Adams, Moormann, Nelson. Rebounds: SFA 42 (Kingsley 13, Williams 7), NDSU 48 (Winkelman 10, Tvedit 8, Woodside 8, Carlson 6). Assists: SFA 15 (Shaw 3, Williams 3, Adams 3), NDSU 12 (Woodside 8). Steals: SFA 5 (Kingsley 2), NDSU 8 (Winkelman 3). Turnovers: SFA 15, NDSU 13 (Winkelman 4, Woodside 4).

NDSU’s Top 10 all-time scorers

Here are the top 10 single-game scoring marks for the NDSU men’s basketball team:

Player Pts Date Opponent

1. Ben Woodside 60 12/12/08 Stephen F. Austin

2. Lance Berwald 53 12/7/84 Minn. St. Mankato

3. (tie) Marv Bachmeier 47 1/19/60 Concordia-Moorhead

3. (tie) Marv Bachmeier 47 2/6/60 at Morningside

5. Marv Bachmeier 46 12/13/58 Northern Iowa

6. (tie) Denver TenBroek 43 1/25/03 at Augustana (S.D.)

6. (tie) Marv Bachmeier 43 2/12/60 Northern Iowa

8. (tie) Lance Berwald 42 2/17/84 at Augustana (S.D.)

8. (tie) Ron McLeod 42 2/10/62 Morningside

10. (tie) Ben Woodside 39 11/19/07 at Tennessee Tech

10. (tie) Brett Winkelman 39 12/8/07 at Centenary
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Re: NDSU Men's Bball

Postby baseball18 » Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:49 am

that was insane, and he comes out and scores 31 today...
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