thundercat 99 wrote:If this was lets say Florida State or someone else, we wouldnt here about it.
But the NCAA would never touch Florida State if a problem came up
AC-DC wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the last action from the tribe a rejection of a vote of support? Effectively, they're not supporting the name, but not fighting it either. Is there a deal in the works with the tribe?
Sioux hockey is one of North Dakota's greatest assets and yes the name is everything. It's loss is a travesty of political correctness gone made. Is it the tribe fighting the name? I belive not. If they were to make a stand against it, I would say give it up. As long as it's just the NCAA and meddling liberals, I say "Keep Fighting Sioux"!
Indians Alumni wrote:So why do they have the legal right to use the name, please educate me? I would like to know.
Makotifarmguy wrote:Just my $.02 on the subject, but it doesn't make sense to me that NA's would accept the logo if bribed.
Aren't you against the name and logo because you feel offended? So you are willing to allow money, tuition waivers, whatever to change your minds?
If that is the case, then I struggle with the idea that you aren't really offended by it at all, but want something in return for the use of the name. Which basically means you can be bought off and your stance of being offended by the name and logo is really a moot point.
Now I didn't come on to argue with people, just something I see. I guess if I am offended by something like my culture, money/bribes would do nothing to change my feelings as it being offensive whether I had $10 in my pocket or $100,000 in my pocket...it is still offensive.
If it is offensive, it is always offensive...I guess I don't understand...
Example:
1. UND Fighting Sioux gives nothing to the tribes= Offensive name and logo
2. UND gives $1 million to the tribes or full tuitions, whatever= Not offensive to the tribe
IA and native golfer....do you really want to sellout your culture and heritage for full ride tuitions? If so, then the name must not really be offensive to you if you can be bought for it.
If the NA's truely feel it is offensive, then I say change the name. If they can be bought somehow, then the reality is it wasn't offensive to begin with.
I am still saying change the name to Flickertails. Wether it is close to the gophers or not, it was the original name.
asiantangy99 wrote:I dont see why this is such a big issue. What are the sioux going to be without thier name. Honestly if I had a team named after me I would be honored. Seminoles didnt have a problem with FSU so why should the sioux have a problem with UND?
Baller wrote:asiantangy99 wrote:I dont see why this is such a big issue. What are the sioux going to be without thier name. Honestly if I had a team named after me I would be honored. Seminoles didnt have a problem with FSU so why should the sioux have a problem with UND?
And here we go AGAIN...
asiantangy99 wrote:Baller wrote:asiantangy99 wrote:I dont see why this is such a big issue. What are the sioux going to be without thier name. Honestly if I had a team named after me I would be honored. Seminoles didnt have a problem with FSU so why should the sioux have a problem with UND?
And here we go AGAIN...
with what? Cant I state my opinion?
AC-DC wrote:asiantangy99 wrote:Baller wrote:asiantangy99 wrote:I dont see why this is such a big issue. What are the sioux going to be without thier name. Honestly if I had a team named after me I would be honored. Seminoles didnt have a problem with FSU so why should the sioux have a problem with UND?
And here we go AGAIN...
with what? Cant I state my opinion?
Sure you can state your opinion, but if you read this site at all, you know that this issue has been beat to death. We're all interested in the outcome, but more debate on here is just going to fire up the vocal minority, on both sides, and lead to the topic being closed. If you look at the post dates, this dog has been asleep since November.
Let's just all give the Sioux the support they need against BC on Thursday.
Go Sioux!
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